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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,033 posts)
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 07:52 PM Jul 2019

Trump's bail offer for jailed rapper rings hollow in Sweden

BERLIN (AP) — U.S. President Donald Trump said he spoke with Sweden's prime minister Saturday about jailed rapper A$AP Rocky and "offered to personally vouch for his bail," a hollow offer in a criminal justice system that doesn't include bail.

Trump tweeted that during "a very good call" with Prime Minister Stefan Lofven, he also "assured him that A$AP was not a flight risk." The platinum-selling, Grammy-nominated artist has been in custody since early this month over an alleged fight.

While not an option in Sweden, bail is common in the United States. A defendant is allowed to post an amount of money set by the court to guarantee the defendant will appear for trial if he or she is freed pending those proceedings.

Urged on by the first lady and celebrities including Kanye West and Kim Kardashian West, the president had said in a Friday tweet that he would intervene to try to free Rocky, whose real name is Rakim May.

"Our teams will be talking further, and we agreed to speak again in the next 48 hours!" Trump wrote Saturday after speaking with Lofven.

The prime minister's press secretary, Toni Eriksson, confirmed hours later that Lofven and Trump had a conversation that "was friendly and respectful and lasted about 20 minutes."

Lofven "made certain to emphasize the complete independence of the Swedish judicial system, prosecutors and courts," Eriksson said in a statement. "He underlined that in Sweden everyone is equal before the law and that the government cannot and will not attempt to influence the legal proceedings."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trumps-bail-offer-for-jailed-rapper-rings-hollow-in-sweden/ar-AAEC3mW?li=BBnbcA1

You mean the Swedish prime minister doesn't have his own Roy Cohn?

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Trump's bail offer for jailed rapper rings hollow in Sweden (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2019 OP
Sweden refuses to take Chump's change ProudLib72 Jul 2019 #1
You know Dolt 45 told his minions, "Quick, find a famous black guy I can do a favor for The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #2
and he's the man with the nuclear football. spanone Jul 2019 #3
Let me get this straight...he can bail this rapper but he won't release children from cages? n/t Raven Jul 2019 #4
+1000! Rhiannon12866 Jul 2019 #8
+1000 Lady_Chat Jul 2019 #12
Perhaps opportunists Kanye and Kim Kartrashian should focus on kids in cages... SMC22307 Jul 2019 #5
+1000 Lady_Chat Jul 2019 #13
And since when does his "vouch" hold water? question everything Jul 2019 #6
He broke the law in Sweden and .. CatMor Jul 2019 #7
Oh good. I am glad he is focusing on things that are really important. smirkymonkey Jul 2019 #9
Why should any country trust his word? RainCaster Jul 2019 #10
"He underlined that in Sweden everyone is equal before the law" nuxvomica Jul 2019 #11
fuck Kanye and Kim and the entire fucking bunch of them JI7 Jul 2019 #14
+1000 Lady_Chat Jul 2019 #15
After days of racists rants, Trump now wants you to believe he cares Lady_Chat Jul 2019 #16
This person lunasun Jul 2019 #17
You mean the Swedes don't trust Trump? I wonder why? Wounded Bear Jul 2019 #18

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,733 posts)
2. You know Dolt 45 told his minions, "Quick, find a famous black guy I can do a favor for
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 08:07 PM
Jul 2019

so I can say I'm not a racist." Sweden, fortunately, is a civilized country with what seems to be a fair criminal justice system that can't be influenced by politicians. If their system doesn't allow for bail Rocky isn't going to get bail, no matter how much flattery Spanky offers them.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
5. Perhaps opportunists Kanye and Kim Kartrashian should focus on kids in cages...
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 08:16 PM
Jul 2019

you know, great humanitarians that they are.

question everything

(47,486 posts)
6. And since when does his "vouch" hold water?
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 08:19 PM
Jul 2019

His history is loaded with builders and contractors who were left holding the bag. Or do with partial payment.

CatMor

(6,212 posts)
7. He broke the law in Sweden and ..
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 08:21 PM
Jul 2019

is being held for about six more days. I can't believe it's being treated like some big deal. I guess Kanye and Kim Kardashian are the new advocates for the State Department dealing with other countries. Such a big deal is being made for something that is nothing. Now we supposedly have Donnie, Melania, Ivanka and Jared up in arms over nothing because they're trying to show they're not racists.

RainCaster

(10,884 posts)
10. Why should any country trust his word?
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 12:00 AM
Jul 2019

We have all seen too many examples of DFT lying to us. And foreign governments and judges, congress, etc. Why should they trust him? I wouldn't.

nuxvomica

(12,429 posts)
11. "He underlined that in Sweden everyone is equal before the law"
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 04:16 AM
Jul 2019

That's quite an insult, as it tacitly says "Unlike in your country". But the insult isn't against the U.S. judicial system so much as the corrupt way Trump engages with it.

Lady_Chat

(561 posts)
16. After days of racists rants, Trump now wants you to believe he cares
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 05:33 AM
Jul 2019

about what is "important" to the African American community. And Melania "I don't care, do you?" Trump, is such an avid fan of rap, she ran to her husband to get help for her favorite rapper. And of course according to Trump, all his "black" friends too.

Is anyone buying this? I am furious at Kim and Kanye. If they had the ability to really do good, they could have made the children in cages, their first priority. But no, they are on their own power trip, and so is Trump, looking to make points with the black community.

It all stinks.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
17. This person
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 10:58 AM
Jul 2019

A$AP
Do you ever feel like you’re being forced to address these issues?
They're not forcing me to do shit. I'm just gonna stay black and die. Why, because I'm black? So every time something happens because I'm black I gotta stand up? What the fuck am I, Al Sharpton now? I'm A$AP Rocky. I did not sign up to be no political activist. I wanna talk about my motherfuckin' lean, my best friend dying, the girls that come in and out of my life, the jiggy fashion that I wear, my new inspirations in drugs! I don't wanna talk about no fucking Ferguson and shit because I don't live over there! I live in fucking Soho and Beverly Hills. I can't relate. I'm in the studio; I'm in these fashion studios; I'm in these bitches' drawers. I'm not doing anything outside of that. That's my life

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