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applegrove

(118,696 posts)
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 03:45 PM Jul 2019

Can Trump's Hard-Core Fans Be Deradicalized?

Can Trump’s Hard-Core Fans Be Deradicalized?

Kelly Weill, Reporter at The Daily Beast

https://www.thedailybeast.com/can-trumps-hard-core-fans-be-deradicalized?ref=home

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Neiwert defines eliminationism as a community-based mentality that promotes “purity” by demonizing its opponents and demanding they be purged from society.

“What they’re doing is participating in a community of hate. This is actually key to a lot of its power and its attraction. It’s almost ritualized,” he told The Daily Beast. “This is how hate crimes work. Hate crimes are always message crimes directed at targets who are seen as corrupting influences and bad for the community. Hate-crime perpetrators see themselves as defending their communities while doing it. There’s always a communal aspect to this. It’s very much the mob.”

Lalich offered a similar perspective.

“Having an us-versus-them mentality is what keeps people strong in their beliefs,” she said. “It creates paranoia, it creates a kind of fighting atmosphere. That kind of mentality is one we typically see. By feeding into that, the leader creates a separation. It also creates a sense of elitism and specialness.”

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Can Trump's Hard-Core Fans Be Deradicalized? (Original Post) applegrove Jul 2019 OP
I hate them ProudLib72 Jul 2019 #1
Not with Fox News and AM radio constantly stoking their hate. Kablooie Jul 2019 #2
In 2016 I had a family member state there was going to be another civil war. silentEcho Jul 2019 #3
Progress at the rate of funerals. gtar100 Jul 2019 #4
It takes generations. Turbineguy Jul 2019 #5
nope. we just have to wait for them to die, sadly. n/t Coventina Jul 2019 #6
Intervention is needed for thier children - Liberty Belle Jul 2019 #7
+1000 alwaysinasnit Jul 2019 #10
Many younger people love Trump, too. SMC22307 Jul 2019 #9
Beat them in the election. gulliver Jul 2019 #8
No, but they can decompose naturally dalton99a Jul 2019 #11
Keep calling them racist. It seems to be their kryptonite. Initech Jul 2019 #12
Save the Children Roy Rolling Jul 2019 #13
Nope JustAnotherGen Jul 2019 #14
Good luck with that. moondust Jul 2019 #15
Sure, with assembly-line lobotomies samir.g Jul 2019 #16

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
1. I hate them
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 03:47 PM
Jul 2019

and want them eliminated. Maybe more than they want to eliminate me. It's the global community I am worried about preserving, not some racist backwater.

 

silentEcho

(424 posts)
3. In 2016 I had a family member state there was going to be another civil war.
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 03:50 PM
Jul 2019

How do you "deradicalize" that? This has been growing for a long time. White Supremacy has been normalized in areas of the country, the White House, and the Republican Party. That is pretty heavy duty.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
4. Progress at the rate of funerals.
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 03:53 PM
Jul 2019

Changing fundamental beliefs is no easy task even for the willing. Most of these MAGATS don't appear to be remotely interested in growing up. Our best hope is to make it socially unacceptable to express racism and bigotry. That makes them tolerable until they're ready to move on.

Turbineguy

(37,343 posts)
5. It takes generations.
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 04:00 PM
Jul 2019

I suspect a lot of this is left over from the Civil War.

In Europe they had to get over the excesses committed during the Reformation (by both sides). It took centuries.

But mostly people have to want to get over it.

Liberty Belle

(9,535 posts)
7. Intervention is needed for thier children -
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 04:18 PM
Jul 2019

Get them out of homeschooling or alternative education and back into public schools; mandate that tolerance be taught and tested.

In my view, teaching children to hate and involving them in overt racist hate groups should be viewed as child abuse and grounds to remove children, who deserve a healthy, loving environment.

As long as these people breed large families and teach their young 'uns to hate, sheltering them from hearing more tolerant views, we will not break the cycle of virulent racism.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
9. Many younger people love Trump, too.
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 04:25 PM
Jul 2019

Young right-wing media blowhards have a HUGE following on social media and I'm guessing they're not dying anytime soon. We really don't have time to "wait."

Initech

(100,081 posts)
12. Keep calling them racist. It seems to be their kryptonite.
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 04:33 PM
Jul 2019

The more you call them racist and sexist, the more they try to defend themselves and it backfires on them. That's how we get out of this.

Roy Rolling

(6,918 posts)
13. Save the Children
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 04:34 PM
Jul 2019

Once people are conditioned to be a MAGA they seldom climb back from that ledge. It’s the thrill of being on the ledge that gives meaning to their meaningless lives. Meaningless because they’ve obediently followed schemes of people like Trump but are poorer and unhealthier for it.

Where’s the gated communities for his followers? There are none, but they won’t give up.

So we must save our energy on younger people before they’re addicted to the concept of something-for-nothing, exploit others for existence like Trump lives.

moondust

(19,993 posts)
15. Good luck with that.
Sat Jul 20, 2019, 04:41 PM
Jul 2019

Many of them will have children and raise them in the swamp of Fox News, hate radio, Breitbart and 4chan.

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