West Virginia residents using wasp spray as meth alternative

[Cattledog]

Residents in West Virginia are using wasp spray as an alternative form of methamphetamine, according to officials.

West Virginia State Police called the use of wasp spray a “cheap fix” for the drug.

“People are making a synthetic type methamphetamine out of wasp spray,” Sgt. Charles Sutphin told ABC Charleston affiliate WCHS Monday.

Police believe wasp spray was behind three overdoses last week. It was not immediately clear how the people consumed the spray.

(MORE: Number of US overdose deaths appears to be falling)
Sutphin said the physical effects include erratic behavior, extreme swelling and redness of the hands and feet.

Pyrethroid, a chemical found in wasp sprays, can cause allergic reactions in some people and repeated exposure could increase the intensity of the reaction, according to a recent study done by the University of Nebraska-Lincoln on pesticides.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/west-virginia-residents-wasp-spray-meth-alternative-police/story?id=64398833

[marble falls]

1. That's pretty degenerate stuff right there.

[unblock]

10. yeah, people should stick to classy, authentic meth.

[marble falls]

13. There are levels of degenracy and I think for what its worth, wasp spray ...

comes at least just after meth.

[unblock]

15. i don't disagree, but... low bar...

[Blue_true]

20. The desperation is a consequence of policy decisions and public pressure.

The legitimate push to limit the amount of opioids being sent to places like WVa and outright bad policy decisions by politicians in those states. More reason to decriminalize Pot and encourage states to build laws that their citizens are comfortable with. If those people could grow a certain amount of Pot in their backyards legally, they likely would not be so brazenly endangering their lives.

[912gdm]

37. while I agree with you about legalization and common sense laws,

the people who are cooking wasp spray into meth-lite are way to far gone to benefit. I honestly don't know what do to about people that far gone, they are walking dead and it really breaks my heart.

I live in rural Indiana and have had a couple people I know fall down that hole, but I am so thankful none of my family has gotten hooked on that crap

[Blue_true]

38. You make a good point. The people cooking up wasp spray are too far gone,

but coming up with sane laws on Pot coupled with robust public education could stop young kids from following them.

[912gdm]

43. pot legalization isn't a panacea

the opioid oversupply to meth route would have happened wether weed was legal or not.

synthetic drugs are designed to hook as many as possible at first exposure. Just saying "pot should be legal" is a major cop out to the real problems of an over-zealous drug industry pumping their poison into every corner of the nation.

[Blue_true]

44. People are cooking up wasp spray because of pressure on drug distributors.

Pressure that looks to be having the intended effects, with unintended consequences.

Making Pot legal gives people that are going to try drugs an alternative to what is going on around them. We may not save 100% of the people taking the recreational drug use route, but even if we only get 10% of those people to try Pot instead, that is progress, IMO.

[912gdm]

45. sure, and it will take 10 years for that to manifest.

but we have a crisis, today.

[htuttle]

2. They're snorting bug powder?

[SoCalNative]

3. So now we'll have to show photo ID

at the pharmacy counter to buy wasp spray?

[ck4829]

7. Hopefully not

We need places where drug use can be controlled and explored.

This story is here because the war on (some) drugs is a war against a human drive to... use drugs.

[Blue_true]

22. Could be coming. Next will be vinegar.

Seriously. Those people are desperate because of a combination of their own addiction and bad laws regarding legal Pot where they live.

[cwydro]

39. There is no comparison between weed and meth.

Come on now.

[Blue_true]

40. You are correct. But legal weed make stop a kid from using meth as his or her first drug. nt

[cwydro]

42. I seriously doubt that.

As someone else pointed out, a cannabis high is not the high they’re after.

[keithbvadu2]

34. Buy it with food so you only have to show the ID once.

Buy it with food so you only have to show the ID once.


After all, Trump says you have to show ID to buy food

Trump claims picture ID is required to buy groceries

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/399806-trump-falsely-claims-id-is-required-to-buy-groceries

Obama tweet groceries ID - (Not a real tweet)

toon

Sarah Huck tried to say beer and wine are groceries.

OK.

In Donald and Sarah's world, alcohol is normal groceries?

Now alcohol should be ok for food stamps.

[at140]

4. Hmmm...I just used a can of Wasp spray to kill wasps building

mud houses under roof of my house. They did look pretty intoxicated after receiving a shot of the spray.

[Lochloosa]

5. The ones building mud houses are Mud daubers.

They are pretty much harmless.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mud_dauber

Mud dauber (or "mud wasp" or "dirt dauber&quot is a name commonly applied to a number of wasps from either the family Sphecidae or Crabronidae that build their nests from mud. Mud daubers belong to different families and are variable in appearance. Most resemble long, slender wasps about 1 inch (25 mm) in length.[1] The name refers to the nests that are made by the female wasps, which consist of mud molded into place by the wasp's mandibles. Mud daubers are not normally aggressive, but can become belligerent when threatened. Stings are uncommon.

[Kurt V.]

19. i was stung last Sunday by a mud dauber. they were very aggressive. now they're building a new nest

in the same place i knocked the old one out. climate change?

[Blue_true]

24. Get stung by the ones that build the cellulose looking houses.

You will be wishing for the bad old days. Those suckers are downright onery and their sting is a gift that keep giving for about a week.

[at140]

36. Those mud-nests are a bitch to clean up!

And you are right, when I break the nest with a long stick, they just fly away.

Back in Chicago burbs, I was painting outside trim on windows on 2nd floor.
So I am on this long ladder, with brush in 1 hand and holding on to ladder with other.
I guess there was a wasp nest there which I did not see. It was definitely not Mud Daubers!
The nest was sand colored and those wasps are SOB aggressive. He/she landed on my ear
and kept stinging me with no hand free to knock the damn thing off of me.

It was a painful sting, my ear lobe got swollen red like a small tomato!

[marble falls]

14. They were talking non stop and cleaning the hive compulsively.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

6. Oh, that's sad. Addiction is so brutal.

[Blue_true]

25. Yes it is. They want to live but the next high is more important. nt

[Scurrilous]

8. Time for new label warnings.

Wasp spray not WASP spray.

[alittlelark]

9. OMG..... laughing and feeling nauseous with myself for doing so

0

[Ilsa]

11. I'm glad I'm not eating because I would have

Choked on my food.

[malaise]

12. DUzy

[dalton99a]

16. +1

[Buckeyeblue]

17. Drug addiction is sad. This underlines the callous stance the country takes on addiction

These people are so desperate that they are willing to ingest a pesticide to satisfy their body's cravings.

The state of West Virginia is beyond fucked up.

[womanofthehills]

23. Agreed. This is beyond horrible - pesticides can poison and kill people

Pyrethroid in spray bottles has synergists that make it way more toxic. One of the most common synergists for these pesticides is PBO - Piperonyl Butoxide. So, it's never pyrethroids alone. It's a f**king stew of horrible chemicals - like Roundup is.

Yrs ago, I worked with kids in a low income neighborhood who were "sniffing" silver spray paint. The other kids called them the "sniffers." I have a grandaughter fighting addiction - it's such a horrible, horrible thing.

[Codeine]

18. Fuckin tweakers.

The part of California I live in was a meth-addled hell for most of the nineties and early naughties, and I’ve lost all sympathy for tweakers as a result of dealing with their bullshit.

[Blue_true]

28. Has legal Pot helped? nt

[Codeine]

31. It petered out a while back

when it became harder to get the precursors to enable kitchen production. There are still plenty of the useless fuckers, but it’s less than before.

Tweakers aren’t seeking the sort of feeling weed gives them. They want to be spun out, grinding their teeth while feeling their skin crawl all over and picking holes in their faces.

[cwydro]

41. Thank you.

I dont get this odd comparison between weed and meth.

[fescuerescue]

21. Guess I gotta stock up on wasp spray now

in case its needed.

No doubt it'll be banned soon and replaced with a look alike, but non-effective alternative.

[Blue_true]

29. Hate to advertise for it given the company that makes it,

but RAID kills any insect. Just is case wasp spray develops supply issues.

[jpak]

26. American Krokodil

yup

[NightWatcher]

27. But won't legalize cannabis because ...

[Blue_true]

30. I thought that too.

I hope someone does a detailed study soon of whether legal Pot impacts drug overdoses. Some early data says that legal Pot has a positive impact, but the data is really fragmented.

[NightWatcher]

32. At the VERY least, when you're high on weed you are not doing wasp spray or shooting fentanyl

[lame54]

33. Naked Lunch

[Codeine]

35. "These creatures secrete an addictive fluid

from their erect penises that prolongs life by slowing metabolism.” Such a weird quote, but one that is permanently etched in my mind for some reason.