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So what % do we have to win by to actually win (Original Post) edhopper Jul 2019 OP
Every election win they've had since 1980 has been stolen. clementine613 Jul 2019 #1
That isn't possible edhopper Jul 2019 #6
Percentages don't matter. Lucid Dreamer Jul 2019 #2
But we need enough extra votes in many States edhopper Jul 2019 #8
they can win with 26% torius Jul 2019 #3
I get what you're saying, watoos Jul 2019 #4
Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan. SMC22307 Jul 2019 #5
Unfortunately, geography matters more than percentages these days... Wounded Bear Jul 2019 #7
True edhopper Jul 2019 #10
Considering multiple factors pecosbob Jul 2019 #9

clementine613

(561 posts)
1. Every election win they've had since 1980 has been stolen.
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 08:02 PM
Jul 2019

In order to win, we have to win by a large enough percentage that makes it impossible to steal. 60 or maybe 65%.

edhopper

(33,606 posts)
8. But we need enough extra votes in many States
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 10:36 AM
Jul 2019

to overcome the suppression and theft.

Look at WI, MI, PA and NC in 2016.

Or FL in 2018.

We needed a larger majority to overcome the theft.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
4. I get what you're saying,
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 08:09 PM
Jul 2019

I vote into a black hole in Pa.

I’m hoping we can win with an extra 5%.

Exit polls show where they cheated.

edhopper

(33,606 posts)
10. True
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 10:38 AM
Jul 2019

but an extra 5% in WI and MI in 2016 would have overcome the suppression and Hillary would be Pres.

Right now we have to live with the EC.

pecosbob

(7,542 posts)
9. Considering multiple factors
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 10:38 AM
Jul 2019

from gerrymandering to vote suppression to election fraud my guess is more like 70-75% compared with an ideal equal playing field. Likely targets of out and out election fraud are Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and Florida.

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