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Buried in NBCNews's video of Trump and Epstein is this moment where Trump clearly grabs a woman (Original Post) hlthe2b Jul 2019 OP
That is SO gross! cyndensco Jul 2019 #1
See how quickly she wiggled out of his hand? True Blue American Jul 2019 #44
That's where the video is cut, then it loops again lunatica Jul 2019 #60
I see that now. True Blue American Jul 2019 #77
"Just grab 'em" dalton99a Jul 2019 #2
The look on his face especially as he grabs that women just makes me hlthe2b Jul 2019 #5
If these women DENVERPOPS Jul 2019 #56
Exactly LakeArenal Jul 2019 #76
I sure saw it the first time. MuseRider Jul 2019 #3
Whoa. blue neen Jul 2019 #4
"Epstein WHO?!?" durablend Jul 2019 #6
They sure look like close buds in that second picture! blue neen Jul 2019 #7
but he is bdamomma Jul 2019 #37
'when you're a star' you can 'grab 'em by the _____' spanone Jul 2019 #8
And they cut it mid grope. marble falls Jul 2019 #9
I saw that. Why would they cut what he did next? lunatica Jul 2019 #57
Maybe he moved on her "like a b%%" and grabbed her ... marble falls Jul 2019 #71
If you look closely, he pats the woman in the black dress also, with his left hand. ugh secondwind Jul 2019 #10
The women in the green shorts he grabs... what was her hand jester just before he grabs her? usaf-vet Jul 2019 #51
What amazes me is Melania and his kids .. CatMor Jul 2019 #11
Melanie was some kind of sex worker when she met Trump ... she knew what she was getting into. Botany Jul 2019 #13
To think they tolerate him because of money .. CatMor Jul 2019 #16
Melaria will get her money, that's all she cares about. nt FoxNewsSucks Jul 2019 #14
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$! Why they ignore it! cornball 24 Jul 2019 #15
Nothing amazing about it. Traildogbob Jul 2019 #36
Did you forget the sarcasm emoji? lunatica Jul 2019 #58
Guess so Traildogbob Jul 2019 #74
Melania is with Trump for same reason Stormy was Skittles Jul 2019 #89
Feels her ass and then grabs her Botany Jul 2019 #12
Buffalo Bills and Miami Dolphins cheerleaders... hlthe2b Jul 2019 #17
Had 3 kids at home with his ex and was dating Marla Maples Johnny2X2X Jul 2019 #20
Seems to me that there was quite a bit gelsdorf Jul 2019 #18
After seeing that picture of True Blue American Jul 2019 #46
This was the party where he and Jeffrey Epstein were the only 2 men FakeNoose Jul 2019 #19
No, this video was a different party Johnny2X2X Jul 2019 #21
OK so it was Chump's party and Epstein got invited to play along? FakeNoose Jul 2019 #22
There were multiple parties Johnny2X2X Jul 2019 #24
Those depicted here are Buffalo Bills and Miami Dolphins cheerleaders filming hlthe2b Jul 2019 #25
Yes, because more men were there. True Blue American Jul 2019 #47
Hard to keep track of all the Epstein-Trump parties Johnny2X2X Jul 2019 #49
Save this video (I did) and send to louis-t Jul 2019 #23
Along with the "grab em by the p__sy video" they will claim they never heard about... hlthe2b Jul 2019 #26
But he's been "saved" since then! It's all cool now! deurbano Jul 2019 #29
Just sick Johnny2X2X Jul 2019 #27
Who was the tall guy with grey hair, he ducked a few times as not to be seen on camera? Historic NY Jul 2019 #28
The smartest person in the room? (nt) mr_lebowski Jul 2019 #35
Football player? True Blue American Jul 2019 #48
Some twitter feeds are saying: "retired NBA player and former Democratic Congressman, Tom McMillen" hlthe2b Jul 2019 #54
Yup...6 ft 11 is hard to miss. Historic NY Jul 2019 #66
Thing is-this is probably the lifestyle the men who love him want to lead SujiwanKenobee Jul 2019 #30
Real gentlemen - NOT marieo1 Jul 2019 #31
When he grabs her, he has this menacing expression on his face. madaboutharry Jul 2019 #32
All of this primal behavior goes straight to male brainstems DemocracyMouse Jul 2019 #33
So Trump's "Grab 'em by the ______" remark was NOT simply "locker room talk" PA Democrat Jul 2019 #34
To be fair, he didn't GHBTP in this pic ... that would be 1000X worse than mr_lebowski Jul 2019 #39
We don't know that since the video stops very quickly and lunatica Jul 2019 #65
That's all true, while also not refuting my point ... mr_lebowski Jul 2019 #68
Your phrase lunatica Jul 2019 #69
No, he grabbed her True Blue American Jul 2019 #78
You really think a smack (not a grab) on the butt is the same as GHBTP? mr_lebowski Jul 2019 #87
I bet bdamomma Jul 2019 #40
Here's how the cultists can excuse this very easily ... mr_lebowski Jul 2019 #38
Cut it Off bdamomma Jul 2019 #41
I noticed that. So gross. Politicub Jul 2019 #42
Everybody, he's gaslighting. And he's EXCITING his base. DemocracyMouse Jul 2019 #43
This is a GROPE! SCVDem Jul 2019 #45
? wildflower Jul 2019 #81
Yes, it was a grope. DemocracyMouse Jul 2019 #50
1992. The last year of his marriage to his first mail-order bride... Grins Jul 2019 #52
He was with Marla Maples already Johnny2X2X Jul 2019 #53
Jim Carrey - Epstein as Swamp Creature Beringia Jul 2019 #55
+1 lunatica Jul 2019 #67
In 2016, our media was too busy trying to track down maxrandb Jul 2019 #59
Any way to find that woman? Kingofalldems Jul 2019 #61
Odds are she was a Buffalo Bills or Miami Dolphins cheerleader--there would be rosters hlthe2b Jul 2019 #63
No idea what she was thinking Johnny2X2X Jul 2019 #70
One of the guests was Tom McMillan the former basketball player at Maryland. Kingofalldems Jul 2019 #62
Well, he was smart enough to make a "beeline" away from Trump/Epstein so that might just be hlthe2b Jul 2019 #64
Wasn't he a Congressman once? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2019 #83
yup.. Democrat hlthe2b Jul 2019 #86
Does anyone think customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #72
Will it get him out of office? No. Will it add to the cumulative record, humiliate those who defend hlthe2b Jul 2019 #73
The record on the Trump adminstration customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #75
So we should just stop documenting because we "have enough?" Hell no. I want a full & complete hlthe2b Jul 2019 #79
Go ahead customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #80
Good gawd.. Who the hell are you comparing John Dean to? hlthe2b Jul 2019 #82
I was around for Watergate customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #84
So was I. John Dean was a big reason that Nixon was revealed and left office in disgrace. hlthe2b Jul 2019 #85
He isn't just grabbing her he's using her dancing butt to rub his cock. blm Jul 2019 #88

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
60. That's where the video is cut, then it loops again
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 02:32 PM
Jul 2019

It gives the illusion that she moves quickly away because it starts the loop again before he jerks her body to his.

hlthe2b

(102,357 posts)
5. The look on his face especially as he grabs that women just makes me
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 11:45 AM
Jul 2019

so damned angry (and nauseous)

DENVERPOPS

(8,844 posts)
56. If these women
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 02:19 PM
Jul 2019

If these women weren't so intent on getting them selves a Rich Powerful Man, regardless of what disgusting things he does with her, they would turn around and kick him in the chobies......But they don't and the rich powerful men just keep on keeping on doing whatever they wish with all these women.......

But they don't. They want the lifestyle and are willing to put up with anything to get the power and money.
The moment they start to age, the rich guys start having affairs all over the place and dump them and move on.................

LakeArenal

(28,845 posts)
76. Exactly
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 03:53 PM
Jul 2019

There are different kinds of parties. It looks like the party where older men are the males and drunk young women are the females.

She’s looking pretty fun-loving.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
57. I saw that. Why would they cut what he did next?
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 02:28 PM
Jul 2019

Well if we have to ask then we’re pretty damn stupid.

He reaches around her body to jerk her against him so he can then grab between her legs from behind thinking the camera won’t see what he’s doing because he’s using her body to block his derrière actions. Only the camera did catch it and it probably caught the next few moments also.

Men who like to do that always take advantage of the moments when they can quickly do something like that in public. I’ve had that done to me way back when I was young. It happens on crowded buses or in situations when people crowd and jostle each other. The only person who knows it happened can’t do anything about because it happens too fast and no one except the asshole who does it are aware it’s going on. It’s infuriating!

usaf-vet

(6,207 posts)
51. The women in the green shorts he grabs... what was her hand jester just before he grabs her?
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 02:01 PM
Jul 2019

I think I have seen the "hand signal" before. Just saying. I wonder what was going on that they were all cheering about?

CatMor

(6,212 posts)
11. What amazes me is Melania and his kids ..
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 11:59 AM
Jul 2019

totally ignore his disgusting behavior. Will they say this video is fake or he just grabbed the girl because she was starting to fall down or some other lame excuse.

Botany

(70,581 posts)
13. Melanie was some kind of sex worker when she met Trump ... she knew what she was getting into.
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 12:02 PM
Jul 2019

His adult kids all know about Don's actions too. Although I do feel for his son.

CatMor

(6,212 posts)
16. To think they tolerate him because of money ..
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 12:08 PM
Jul 2019

they were little kids being raised by their mother when he was hanging with Epstein chasing young girls and not caring about his children.

Traildogbob

(8,797 posts)
36. Nothing amazing about it.
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 01:23 PM
Jul 2019

They are ALL whores. Every single one of them. Zero moral whores. Fuck for cash or pay for fucking. Someone needs to take a weed eater to those eye brows. I think he has let them grow, fertilized them, just in case the rat on his head expires, he will comb those brows back to appear as full head of hair with bangs.

hlthe2b

(102,357 posts)
17. Buffalo Bills and Miami Dolphins cheerleaders...
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 12:14 PM
Jul 2019

The 1992 footage was shot by NBC for Faith Daniels’ talk show, “A Closer Look,” for a profile of then-newly divorced Trump’s lifestyle. The future president was largely surrounded by cheerleaders for the Buffalo Bills, in town for a game against the Miami Dolphins. The women offered the camera glowing testimonials about their fun-loving host.

Johnny2X2X

(19,114 posts)
20. Had 3 kids at home with his ex and was dating Marla Maples
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 12:26 PM
Jul 2019

Trump was in a relationship with Marla Maples at the time this was shot. He's an adulterer and a cheater as well as a groper.

This was flat out a groping incident caught on camera. this girl didn't agree to be groped like that.

gelsdorf

(240 posts)
18. Seems to me that there was quite a bit
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 12:16 PM
Jul 2019

of Peruvian Marching Powder being used that night. Or some High test Starbucks
Some people are saying, of course. Some people

True Blue American

(17,988 posts)
46. After seeing that picture of
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 01:44 PM
Jul 2019

Kelly Anne and the Epstein pilot it would not surprise me she is not Cocaine Kelly.

FakeNoose

(32,748 posts)
19. This was the party where he and Jeffrey Epstein were the only 2 men
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 12:22 PM
Jul 2019

... surrounded by 3 dozen beautiful young women. Chump probably grabbed every woman there, sooner or later. What a disgusting pig he is. The good thing is, Epstein made movies of the party, so the evidence is probably in the hands of the FBI now.

Johnny2X2X

(19,114 posts)
21. No, this video was a different party
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 12:29 PM
Jul 2019

The party with just he, Epstein, and 28 models who were trying to get a spot on a calendar was a different event.

Trump and Epstein were more than just acquaintances, they were very close friends, close enough that Trump invited just Epstein to be the only other guy in the room with 28 models Trump says he "provided" for their "entertainment."

FakeNoose

(32,748 posts)
22. OK so it was Chump's party and Epstein got invited to play along?
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 12:33 PM
Jul 2019

I thought it was the other way around. Well that explains why the women are all over 21 in this video. If Epstein had arranged the party, the girls would have been high school-aged.

Johnny2X2X

(19,114 posts)
24. There were multiple parties
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 12:35 PM
Jul 2019

This one was Trump's party at Mar-A-Lago with NFL cheerleaders, and Epstein and several other creeps were invited. The other one was with models who wanted to be on Trump's calendar, no video has surfaced of that one, but Trump and Epstein were the only men allowed to attend.

And there are parties at Epstein's where Trump is known to have attended.

Trump and Epstein probably went to dozens of parties like these together.

hlthe2b

(102,357 posts)
25. Those depicted here are Buffalo Bills and Miami Dolphins cheerleaders filming
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 12:38 PM
Jul 2019

a tv talk show.

The 1992 footage was shot by NBC for Faith Daniels’ talk show, “A Closer Look,” for a profile of then-newly divorced Trump’s lifestyle. The future president was largely surrounded by cheerleaders for the Buffalo Bills, in town for a game against the Miami Dolphins. The women offered the camera glowing testimonials about their fun-loving host.

Johnny2X2X

(19,114 posts)
49. Hard to keep track of all the Epstein-Trump parties
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 01:55 PM
Jul 2019

It's hard to keep track of all the sex parties our current President attended with a known pedophile. Multiple ones at Mar-A-Lago, multiple ones at Epstein's house in Florida and at his apartment in NYC.

louis-t

(23,297 posts)
23. Save this video (I did) and send to
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 12:34 PM
Jul 2019

your right-wing relatives if they ever start giving you shit. Seriously.

Johnny2X2X

(19,114 posts)
27. Just sick
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 01:02 PM
Jul 2019

Not only the pat on the behind which was disgusting, but the forceful grab to pull this woman towards him. This woman looked surprised and shocked, she didn't sign up to be yanked around and touched by a sick pervert twice her age.

I'll keep repeating it, how the heck is this not the headline all over the new today? If this had been during any other Presidency all the networks would be interrupting daytime programs with special broadcasts, "Shocking new video of the President groping a woman have surfaced." There would already be calls for Bush, Obama, or Clinton to resign immediately.

hlthe2b

(102,357 posts)
54. Some twitter feeds are saying: "retired NBA player and former Democratic Congressman, Tom McMillen"
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 02:14 PM
Jul 2019

I wouldn't bet my life on it, but maybe...


SujiwanKenobee

(290 posts)
30. Thing is-this is probably the lifestyle the men who love him want to lead
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 01:16 PM
Jul 2019

They aren't shocked. They think people objecting aren't "man enough" to appreciate Trump for what he is. Plenty of women respond to this type of man handling as normal and expected during certain stages of a guy's life and excuse it as typical playboy behavior.

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
31. Real gentlemen - NOT
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 01:16 PM
Jul 2019

DJT is so gross!! How he ever got in the WH is beyond me. I had 4 brothers and if one of them ever behaved or said the things that have come out of DJT's mouth or ever did any of these gross things my Dad would have killed them. Both of these guys are obscene, disgusting pigs without any morals or class at all.

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
34. So Trump's "Grab 'em by the ______" remark was NOT simply "locker room talk"
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 01:21 PM
Jul 2019

it was an accurate account of his typical behavior.

Imagine what he did when there were NOT cameras rolling.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
39. To be fair, he didn't GHBTP in this pic ... that would be 1000X worse than
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 01:29 PM
Jul 2019

what we see in this video.

Not saying it WAS 'just talk', but this vid is not proof it was not.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
65. We don't know that since the video stops very quickly and
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 02:40 PM
Jul 2019

just loops back to rerun the same few seconds again.

I wonder why more isn’t shown. Maybe because it gets worse.

I can attest from bitter experience that women’s privates can be groped from behind too. Men can get away with it a lot more that way. Especially in a jostling crowd.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
68. That's all true, while also not refuting my point ...
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 03:00 PM
Jul 2019

Fact is, it's potentially pretty innocuous in a party situation where people are loaded, given that as a viewer you don't know whether he has any sort of relationship w/the cheerleader.

It really doesn't approach the severity of him literally putting his hand on her privates. And you can tell it's a pat on the butt, not an under-carriage reach.

Bottom-line, I agree that this is further evidence to suggest that it wasn't just locker room talk ... but does not constitute proper proof.

S'all I'm saying.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
87. You really think a smack (not a grab) on the butt is the same as GHBTP?
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 04:57 PM
Jul 2019

Yeah ... I'm going to go ahead and kinda ... disagree with you there.

Football players swat each others ass with some regularity (or used to anyway) but you don't see 'em grabbing the other's junk.

I think it's safe to say it's considerably more ... intrusive ... in the majority of people's eyes.

Also given we don't know their 'relationship' (or lack thereof), what he did there could be fall along a pretty wide range of 'inappropriateness'.

Just MHO ...

bdamomma

(63,922 posts)
40. I bet
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 01:32 PM
Jul 2019

another person who can collaborate on the sick pervert tRump escapades is Howard Stern. I bet he knows a lot of stuff.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
38. Here's how the cultists can excuse this very easily ...
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 01:27 PM
Jul 2019

'He was probably already dating this cheerleader and knew she would love the attention ... anyway she doesn't seem to mind!'

Boom ... it's rendered meaningless to them via their imagination.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
42. I noticed that. So gross.
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 01:35 PM
Jul 2019

He’s a disgusting pig. He has always treated other people, especially women, as his playthings.

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
43. Everybody, he's gaslighting. And he's EXCITING his base.
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 01:36 PM
Jul 2019

All of this primal behavior goes straight to male brainstems and it makes Trump look virile. Bill Clinton's affair with Monica Lewinsky did the same thing for him. Yes, it may seem manipulative and boorish to us, but it's great for Trump's ratings. Same deal with his insidious racism.

Please start mentioning the golden rule:

EVERY TIME WE REPORT TRUMP's DISTRACTIONS, and EVIDENCE OF PAST ASININE BEHAVIOR, WE MUST ALSO MENTION 6 DEADLY THINGS HE'S COVERING UP.

Otherwise you are raising his profile among his base.

PLEASE mention he's covering up:

1) His many rape accusations,
2) His treasonous collusion with Russia,
3) His money laundering and illegal use of his office to make money for himself.
4) His GIVING AWAY YOUR FUTURE to provide tax breaks for his wealthy "friends" and DESTROYING our economy through a trade war.
5) His DESTROYING our planet through trashing the Kyoto protocols,
6) and his CRUELY TORTURING CHILDREN AND THEIR PARENTS escaping real threats.

AND THROW IN THIS: He's promoting the nuclearization of Iran by breaking Obama's multilateral agreement with that country.

PLEASE ROLL OUT THIS LIST EVERY FUCKING TIME he gaslights or distracts. Assume busy Americans can't remember the last time anything on this list was reported. REPEAT IT.

Yes, REPEAT IT. And don't stop repeating it.

Everybody on board?

(And please add to my list.)

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
50. Yes, it was a grope.
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 01:56 PM
Jul 2019

And ALL of this is covering up what Al would have pointed out (and EVERY journalist should repeat):

1) Trump's many rape accusations,
2) His treasonous collusion with Russia,
3) His money laundering and illegal use of his office to make money for himself.
4) His GIVING AWAY YOUR FUTURE to provide tax breaks for his wealthy "friends" and DESTROYING our economy through a trade war.
5) His DESTROYING our planet through trashing the Kyoto protocols,
6) and his CRUELY TORTURING CHILDREN AND THEIR PARENTS escaping real threats.

Grins

(7,228 posts)
52. 1992. The last year of his marriage to his first mail-order bride...
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 02:08 PM
Jul 2019

Divorced that year. Because..."Sanctity of Marriage!!!"

Johnny2X2X

(19,114 posts)
53. He was with Marla Maples already
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 02:13 PM
Jul 2019

He cheated on Ivana with Marla Maples and was in a serious relationship with her that would lead to marriage and a child at the time this video was shot.

maxrandb

(15,351 posts)
59. In 2016, our media was too busy trying to track down
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 02:31 PM
Jul 2019

Hillary's risotto recipe to look into Donnie Shit for Brains serial sexual assault history.

Johnny2X2X

(19,114 posts)
70. No idea what she was thinking
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 03:07 PM
Jul 2019

But you could tell she was surprised and taken aback by being grabbed so forcefully. It looked like she smiled in shock, I bet she was shaken afterwards knowing what she was treated like in public by a man old enough to be her father.

Kingofalldems

(38,475 posts)
62. One of the guests was Tom McMillan the former basketball player at Maryland.
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 02:37 PM
Jul 2019

He came accompanied but I'd like to know what he says about this party.

hlthe2b

(102,357 posts)
64. Well, he was smart enough to make a "beeline" away from Trump/Epstein so that might just be
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 02:38 PM
Jul 2019

indicative...

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
72. Does anyone think
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 03:33 PM
Jul 2019

that this is going to make one iota of difference? We already had the Access Hollywood tape that came out just before the election, and we saw what happened. Does anybody really think that what a couple of rich fucks did nearly thirty years ago is going to matter today?

hlthe2b

(102,357 posts)
73. Will it get him out of office? No. Will it add to the cumulative record, humiliate those who defend
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 03:43 PM
Jul 2019

him, yet still have some sense of conscience? Yes. Will it upset Trump that it is out there? Yes. And, there is even a chance that a follower or two might just achieve maximum disgust.

So, yes, it is important to reveal and disseminate.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
75. The record on the Trump adminstration
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 03:48 PM
Jul 2019

is writing itself on a daily basis for current things being done, this might be a footnote in some book some day, where it will be meaningless compared to his real serious stuff.

Anyone with a conscience had all they need to dump Trump quite some time ago. Any followers at this point actively choose to be blind to it. It's like the jury with one member in absolute disagreement with the other eleven, that no matter how much of the evidence and portions of the transcript are brought to the jury room, they maintain their stance to advance some other agenda other than justice.

hlthe2b

(102,357 posts)
79. So we should just stop documenting because we "have enough?" Hell no. I want a full & complete
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 04:04 PM
Jul 2019

record--not only for Trump, but for all those sycophants who enabled him. History will not be rewritten before he is even gone because we are going to document every GD thing he does or which come to light from his history.

WE MUST!

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
80. Go ahead
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 04:07 PM
Jul 2019

knock yourself out to try and peel Trump voters away.

You know what they say about the definition of insanity...

And by the way, John Dean was one of Nixon's enablers (until he got caught), he was regarded as some kind of folk hero here a few weeks ago.

hlthe2b

(102,357 posts)
82. Good gawd.. Who the hell are you comparing John Dean to?
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 04:12 PM
Jul 2019

He has made considerable amends the past 40 years. That some here acknowledge that is hardly unusual. It is the right-wing who detests him because he has called them out for the past four decades. That you don't seem to know that means you need to do some research of your own.

And NO, no one here is insane (but thank you for that ) to want to hold Trump fully accountable for every damned thing he has done.

I'm going to assume you woke up on the wrong side of the bed today, because you don't sound like yourself.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
84. I was around for Watergate
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 04:16 PM
Jul 2019

and I don't believe in the redemption of any of Nixon's enablers.

Do the same thing over and over, and expect a different result as many times as you need to.

Me, I'm hoping that the voices of our Democratic candidates for president get more air time than Trump's Twitter feuds.

hlthe2b

(102,357 posts)
85. So was I. John Dean was a big reason that Nixon was revealed and left office in disgrace.
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 04:18 PM
Jul 2019

I'm grateful for that.

blm

(113,091 posts)
88. He isn't just grabbing her he's using her dancing butt to rub his cock.
Wed Jul 17, 2019, 05:57 PM
Jul 2019

Back in my dancing days it wasn’t uncommon for perverted assholes like Trump to get close and rub themselves against your butt, especially when the dance floor was crowded.

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