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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBuried in NBCNews's video of Trump and Epstein is this moment where Trump clearly grabs a woman
and pats her behind.
Link to tweet
cyndensco
(1,697 posts)The woman probably reminds him of his daughter.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)It gives the illusion that she moves quickly away because it starts the loop again before he jerks her body to his.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)He patted her,then yanked her against him,patter her again. He is putrid.
dalton99a
(81,570 posts)"I want to do that one over there"
hlthe2b
(102,357 posts)so damned angry (and nauseous)
DENVERPOPS
(8,844 posts)If these women weren't so intent on getting them selves a Rich Powerful Man, regardless of what disgusting things he does with her, they would turn around and kick him in the chobies......But they don't and the rich powerful men just keep on keeping on doing whatever they wish with all these women.......
But they don't. They want the lifestyle and are willing to put up with anything to get the power and money.
The moment they start to age, the rich guys start having affairs all over the place and dump them and move on.................
LakeArenal
(28,845 posts)There are different kinds of parties. It looks like the party where older men are the males and drunk young women are the females.
Shes looking pretty fun-loving.
MuseRider
(34,119 posts)Typical. Disgusting, privileged assholish behavior.
blue neen
(12,328 posts)But Trump is "not a fan" of Epstein. Right.
durablend
(7,464 posts)"NEVER HEARD OF HIM!!!!"
blue neen
(12,328 posts)Conspiring against some poor girl or woman.
bdamomma
(63,922 posts)"terrific guy" according to another sexual assaulter.
spanone
(135,873 posts)marble falls
(57,204 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)Well if we have to ask then were pretty damn stupid.
He reaches around her body to jerk her against him so he can then grab between her legs from behind thinking the camera wont see what hes doing because hes using her body to block his derrière actions. Only the camera did catch it and it probably caught the next few moments also.
Men who like to do that always take advantage of the moments when they can quickly do something like that in public. Ive had that done to me way back when I was young. It happens on crowded buses or in situations when people crowd and jostle each other. The only person who knows it happened cant do anything about because it happens too fast and no one except the asshole who does it are aware its going on. Its infuriating!
marble falls
(57,204 posts)by another part.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)usaf-vet
(6,207 posts)I think I have seen the "hand signal" before. Just saying. I wonder what was going on that they were all cheering about?
CatMor
(6,212 posts)totally ignore his disgusting behavior. Will they say this video is fake or he just grabbed the girl because she was starting to fall down or some other lame excuse.
Botany
(70,581 posts)His adult kids all know about Don's actions too. Although I do feel for his son.
CatMor
(6,212 posts)they were little kids being raised by their mother when he was hanging with Epstein chasing young girls and not caring about his children.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,435 posts)cornball 24
(1,480 posts)Traildogbob
(8,797 posts)They are ALL whores. Every single one of them. Zero moral whores. Fuck for cash or pay for fucking. Someone needs to take a weed eater to those eye brows. I think he has let them grow, fertilized them, just in case the rat on his head expires, he will comb those brows back to appear as full head of hair with bangs.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Traildogbob
(8,797 posts)Didn't think it was necessary. But the whore part is factual.
Skittles
(153,193 posts)Botany
(70,581 posts)Those women look like "working girls" too.
hlthe2b
(102,357 posts)The 1992 footage was shot by NBC for Faith Daniels talk show, A Closer Look, for a profile of then-newly divorced Trumps lifestyle. The future president was largely surrounded by cheerleaders for the Buffalo Bills, in town for a game against the Miami Dolphins. The women offered the camera glowing testimonials about their fun-loving host.
Johnny2X2X
(19,114 posts)Trump was in a relationship with Marla Maples at the time this was shot. He's an adulterer and a cheater as well as a groper.
This was flat out a groping incident caught on camera. this girl didn't agree to be groped like that.
gelsdorf
(240 posts)of Peruvian Marching Powder being used that night. Or some High test Starbucks
Some people are saying, of course. Some people
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)Kelly Anne and the Epstein pilot it would not surprise me she is not Cocaine Kelly.
FakeNoose
(32,748 posts)... surrounded by 3 dozen beautiful young women. Chump probably grabbed every woman there, sooner or later. What a disgusting pig he is. The good thing is, Epstein made movies of the party, so the evidence is probably in the hands of the FBI now.
Johnny2X2X
(19,114 posts)The party with just he, Epstein, and 28 models who were trying to get a spot on a calendar was a different event.
Trump and Epstein were more than just acquaintances, they were very close friends, close enough that Trump invited just Epstein to be the only other guy in the room with 28 models Trump says he "provided" for their "entertainment."
FakeNoose
(32,748 posts)I thought it was the other way around. Well that explains why the women are all over 21 in this video. If Epstein had arranged the party, the girls would have been high school-aged.
Johnny2X2X
(19,114 posts)This one was Trump's party at Mar-A-Lago with NFL cheerleaders, and Epstein and several other creeps were invited. The other one was with models who wanted to be on Trump's calendar, no video has surfaced of that one, but Trump and Epstein were the only men allowed to attend.
And there are parties at Epstein's where Trump is known to have attended.
Trump and Epstein probably went to dozens of parties like these together.
hlthe2b
(102,357 posts)a tv talk show.
The 1992 footage was shot by NBC for Faith Daniels talk show, A Closer Look, for a profile of then-newly divorced Trumps lifestyle. The future president was largely surrounded by cheerleaders for the Buffalo Bills, in town for a game against the Miami Dolphins. The women offered the camera glowing testimonials about their fun-loving host.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,114 posts)It's hard to keep track of all the sex parties our current President attended with a known pedophile. Multiple ones at Mar-A-Lago, multiple ones at Epstein's house in Florida and at his apartment in NYC.
louis-t
(23,297 posts)your right-wing relatives if they ever start giving you shit. Seriously.
hlthe2b
(102,357 posts)deurbano
(2,895 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,114 posts)Not only the pat on the behind which was disgusting, but the forceful grab to pull this woman towards him. This woman looked surprised and shocked, she didn't sign up to be yanked around and touched by a sick pervert twice her age.
I'll keep repeating it, how the heck is this not the headline all over the new today? If this had been during any other Presidency all the networks would be interrupting daytime programs with special broadcasts, "Shocking new video of the President groping a woman have surfaced." There would already be calls for Bush, Obama, or Clinton to resign immediately.
Historic NY
(37,453 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)True Blue American
(17,988 posts)Or something.
hlthe2b
(102,357 posts)Historic NY
(37,453 posts)SujiwanKenobee
(290 posts)They aren't shocked. They think people objecting aren't "man enough" to appreciate Trump for what he is. Plenty of women respond to this type of man handling as normal and expected during certain stages of a guy's life and excuse it as typical playboy behavior.
marieo1
(1,402 posts)DJT is so gross!! How he ever got in the WH is beyond me. I had 4 brothers and if one of them ever behaved or said the things that have come out of DJT's mouth or ever did any of these gross things my Dad would have killed them. Both of these guys are obscene, disgusting pigs without any morals or class at all.
madaboutharry
(40,220 posts)It is so sick. Trump is a psychopath.
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)See below.
PA Democrat
(13,225 posts)it was an accurate account of his typical behavior.
Imagine what he did when there were NOT cameras rolling.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)what we see in this video.
Not saying it WAS 'just talk', but this vid is not proof it was not.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)just loops back to rerun the same few seconds again.
I wonder why more isnt shown. Maybe because it gets worse.
I can attest from bitter experience that womens privates can be groped from behind too. Men can get away with it a lot more that way. Especially in a jostling crowd.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Fact is, it's potentially pretty innocuous in a party situation where people are loaded, given that as a viewer you don't know whether he has any sort of relationship w/the cheerleader.
It really doesn't approach the severity of him literally putting his hand on her privates. And you can tell it's a pat on the butt, not an under-carriage reach.
Bottom-line, I agree that this is further evidence to suggest that it wasn't just locker room talk ... but does not constitute proper proof.
S'all I'm saying.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)undercarriage reach is a good description.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)By the butt! Same difference. Then yanked her against him.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Yeah ... I'm going to go ahead and kinda ... disagree with you there.
Football players swat each others ass with some regularity (or used to anyway) but you don't see 'em grabbing the other's junk.
I think it's safe to say it's considerably more ... intrusive ... in the majority of people's eyes.
Also given we don't know their 'relationship' (or lack thereof), what he did there could be fall along a pretty wide range of 'inappropriateness'.
Just MHO ...
bdamomma
(63,922 posts)another person who can collaborate on the sick pervert tRump escapades is Howard Stern. I bet he knows a lot of stuff.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)'He was probably already dating this cheerleader and knew she would love the attention ... anyway she doesn't seem to mind!'
Boom ... it's rendered meaningless to them via their imagination.
bdamomma
(63,922 posts)should be the slogan.
Politicub
(12,165 posts)Hes a disgusting pig. He has always treated other people, especially women, as his playthings.
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)All of this primal behavior goes straight to male brainstems and it makes Trump look virile. Bill Clinton's affair with Monica Lewinsky did the same thing for him. Yes, it may seem manipulative and boorish to us, but it's great for Trump's ratings. Same deal with his insidious racism.
Please start mentioning the golden rule:
EVERY TIME WE REPORT TRUMP's DISTRACTIONS, and EVIDENCE OF PAST ASININE BEHAVIOR, WE MUST ALSO MENTION 6 DEADLY THINGS HE'S COVERING UP.
Otherwise you are raising his profile among his base.
PLEASE mention he's covering up:
1) His many rape accusations,
2) His treasonous collusion with Russia,
3) His money laundering and illegal use of his office to make money for himself.
4) His GIVING AWAY YOUR FUTURE to provide tax breaks for his wealthy "friends" and DESTROYING our economy through a trade war.
5) His DESTROYING our planet through trashing the Kyoto protocols,
6) and his CRUELY TORTURING CHILDREN AND THEIR PARENTS escaping real threats.
AND THROW IN THIS: He's promoting the nuclearization of Iran by breaking Obama's multilateral agreement with that country.
PLEASE ROLL OUT THIS LIST EVERY FUCKING TIME he gaslights or distracts. Assume busy Americans can't remember the last time anything on this list was reported. REPEAT IT.
Yes, REPEAT IT. And don't stop repeating it.
Everybody on board?
(And please add to my list.)
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)What Al Franken did was a joke!
DemocracyMouse
(2,275 posts)And ALL of this is covering up what Al would have pointed out (and EVERY journalist should repeat):
1) Trump's many rape accusations,
2) His treasonous collusion with Russia,
3) His money laundering and illegal use of his office to make money for himself.
4) His GIVING AWAY YOUR FUTURE to provide tax breaks for his wealthy "friends" and DESTROYING our economy through a trade war.
5) His DESTROYING our planet through trashing the Kyoto protocols,
6) and his CRUELY TORTURING CHILDREN AND THEIR PARENTS escaping real threats.
Grins
(7,228 posts)Divorced that year. Because..."Sanctity of Marriage!!!"
Johnny2X2X
(19,114 posts)He cheated on Ivana with Marla Maples and was in a serious relationship with her that would lead to marriage and a child at the time this video was shot.
Beringia
(4,316 posts)maxrandb
(15,351 posts)Hillary's risotto recipe to look into Donnie Shit for Brains serial sexual assault history.
Kingofalldems
(38,475 posts)That is clearly sexual assault.
hlthe2b
(102,357 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,114 posts)But you could tell she was surprised and taken aback by being grabbed so forcefully. It looked like she smiled in shock, I bet she was shaken afterwards knowing what she was treated like in public by a man old enough to be her father.
Kingofalldems
(38,475 posts)He came accompanied but I'd like to know what he says about this party.
hlthe2b
(102,357 posts)indicative...
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,192 posts)I think at least he ran for Congress.
hlthe2b
(102,357 posts)customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)that this is going to make one iota of difference? We already had the Access Hollywood tape that came out just before the election, and we saw what happened. Does anybody really think that what a couple of rich fucks did nearly thirty years ago is going to matter today?
hlthe2b
(102,357 posts)him, yet still have some sense of conscience? Yes. Will it upset Trump that it is out there? Yes. And, there is even a chance that a follower or two might just achieve maximum disgust.
So, yes, it is important to reveal and disseminate.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)is writing itself on a daily basis for current things being done, this might be a footnote in some book some day, where it will be meaningless compared to his real serious stuff.
Anyone with a conscience had all they need to dump Trump quite some time ago. Any followers at this point actively choose to be blind to it. It's like the jury with one member in absolute disagreement with the other eleven, that no matter how much of the evidence and portions of the transcript are brought to the jury room, they maintain their stance to advance some other agenda other than justice.
hlthe2b
(102,357 posts)record--not only for Trump, but for all those sycophants who enabled him. History will not be rewritten before he is even gone because we are going to document every GD thing he does or which come to light from his history.
WE MUST!
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)knock yourself out to try and peel Trump voters away.
You know what they say about the definition of insanity...
And by the way, John Dean was one of Nixon's enablers (until he got caught), he was regarded as some kind of folk hero here a few weeks ago.
hlthe2b
(102,357 posts)He has made considerable amends the past 40 years. That some here acknowledge that is hardly unusual. It is the right-wing who detests him because he has called them out for the past four decades. That you don't seem to know that means you need to do some research of your own.
And NO, no one here is insane (but thank you for that ) to want to hold Trump fully accountable for every damned thing he has done.
I'm going to assume you woke up on the wrong side of the bed today, because you don't sound like yourself.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)and I don't believe in the redemption of any of Nixon's enablers.
Do the same thing over and over, and expect a different result as many times as you need to.
Me, I'm hoping that the voices of our Democratic candidates for president get more air time than Trump's Twitter feuds.
hlthe2b
(102,357 posts)I'm grateful for that.
blm
(113,091 posts)Back in my dancing days it wasnt uncommon for perverted assholes like Trump to get close and rub themselves against your butt, especially when the dance floor was crowded.