This country elected Barack Hussein Obama twice.

[mahina]

There is no way in hell we are going to reelect this sad excuse.

[uponit7771]

1. I agree with Jimmy Carter most likely Trump is illegitimate

[KT2000]

2. +1 n/t

[Blue Owl]

4. Plus 1

Trump, like the rest of the GOP, wins by cheating.

[sandensea]

10. That's what worries me

That, like last time, the Orange Blob loses the popular vote by millions.

But "miraculously" ekes out an Electoral College win by magically coming up with razor-thin margins in a few key swing states.

'Magically' as in someone flipped a bunch of votes on the tabulation end - which must have been very easy, given that those devices (many of which date from the Bush years) were designed to be easily hacked.

This is what worries me most.

[uponit7771]

15. They can add votes seeing they have state and local registration data. That would be easier than

... flipping.

Registration shaving is still the easiest seeing there's no one auditing provisional anomalies nationwide

[sandensea]

18. That as well.

Plus, of course, the famous 'disappearing votes'.

Who just happened to cast by Black people from Detroit.

Too much around registration, voting, and (particularly) tabulation is computerized - and often by the wrong people. The possibilities for Russian (and Isreali) mischief are almost endless.

To say nothing of domestic miscreants like Rove and his nifty Tennessee servers. He got punked in 2012 though (hence his shock).

[uponit7771]

19. +1, what's pissing me off is the Rethugs denying any auditing of the votes. I saw Roves response for

... Ohio in 2012 and after that he was a goner.

I'm thinking Republicans have been cheating since post Eisenhower ... they know they don't support western style democracies

[sandensea]

20. Well said. That's them alright.

With Big Business behind it all.

They've always chafed at having to live with western style democracy, and they believe this is their chance to rid themselves of that.

[mahina]

14. Absolutely. He knows better than anyone.

[JI7]

3. that's why there is foreign interference, Voter suppression , and other ways they cheat

he wont win in a FAIR election .

it's all the other crap they do that we need to worry about. in fact all the other crap is something we need to worry about more than finding the perfect candidate.

a fair election would have meant a black woman was governor of georgia right now. a black woman holds the seat held by newt gingrich.

these are the changes they are fighting against and they are welcoming russian attacks and anything else to cheat their way to stay in power.

[Duppers]

5. We must secure our voting process

To make sure our votes are counted.

[Demonaut]

6. twice and would have a third if possible

[Hekate]

7. Kick

[Buckeye_Democrat]

8. He also polled better than McCain in...

... a hypothetical general election, months before the actual election. Obama indeed won the popular vote by about the same margin as the earlier polls.

The hypothetical election polls also showed that Hillary Clinton polled significantly worse than McCain, and I'm convinced it would've remained that way on election day.

Similar polling was done prior to the last Presidential election, and it showed a close race between Clinton and the orange-faced idiot. I was HOPING that she'd pull away months later, but that obviously didn't happen. (I'm fully aware that she won the popular vote, but it's ridiculous that Trump was even close!)

I won't feel more confident about a potential Democratic nominee until I see national polls showing he/she kicking Trump's ass.

[AlexSFCA]

9. we need safe margins this time

we have plenty of candidates, whoever is polling best against trump during primary votes in key states should be the one. We can’t take any chances. I don’t wanna hear about popular vote polls and California polls. Why not focus on PA, WI, MI, FL, AZ, etc.

[mahina]

13. Right!

Focus there but compete everywhere.

[Sucha NastyWoman]

11. Except most everyone here thought that George W Bush

Could not possibly get reelected.

I remember the shock and depression like it was yesterday.

[mahina]

12. I do too, and the pain of the Ohio tabulation showing Kerry ahead, going offline, and here comes sh

We were cheated in part because the margin was so thin. What a catastrophe.

[Dirty Socialist]

16. My cousin was an election observer there

He saw vote counters cross out HUNDREDS of Kerry votes and change them to Bush votes. He notified his supervisor . The supervisor did nothing about it.

[mahina]

17. Holy crap.

[mahina]

24. What does he say now?

What does he think we should do to help?
Are these the same machines, or if not, what does he think about security now?
Thank you very much.

[dalton99a]

21. +1. Nov 3, 2004 headline - The White House claimed victory - Kerry had yet to concede:

[Ron Obvious]

22. Sadly, I won't put it past the Democrats to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory

The last few election cycles have left me a sadder, wiser man.

[brooklynite]

23. Yes, but's important to acknowledge that some BHO voters also voted for DJT

Trump's voters are not all racist, xenophobic Bible thumpers. Accepting that point is the first step in understanding how to win some of them back.