Will Gavin Newsom try to kick Trump off the California ballot?

[DonViejo]

BY ALEXANDER TIN

JULY 15, 2019 / 5:56 AM / CBS NEWS

Nearly two years after then-California Gov. Jerry Brown quashed a bill to force presidential candidates to release their tax returns, Golden State lawmakers have returned a nearly identical measure to the desk of Brown's successor.

Now California Gov. Gavin Newsom has less than two weeks to decide the fate of the proposed law, which has provoked fierce criticism from Republicans across the country.

"It was disappointing for a lot of people not to be able to have confidence that a major presidential candidate, and ultimately the president, didn't have financial conflicts of interest," California State Sen. Scott Wiener told CBS News. Wiener authored the bill with fellow state Sen. Mike McGuire.

"I think it's time to require what everyone already thought was required," Wiener added.

Billed as the "Presidential Tax Transparency and Accountability Act," the law would demand that presidential candidates disclose five years of federal tax returns, in order to be listed on the state's primary election ballot.

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[FakeNoose]

1. Would Chump walk away from California, just to keep his tax returns private?

I'd bet he would, since he knows he can't win CA in any way, shape or form.

If he does release his taxes, it won't win him CA and it might cause him to lose in other states that could go either way. The so-called swing states of Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, maybe even Ohio could turn against Chump in a heartbeat if his tax returns get released.

[VOX]

2. Everything you said.

100 percent on the money. And I’m a native Californian. 45 will be *destroyed* in CA’s vote tally, regardless of any revealed tax returns. And he will do *everything* in his power to keep his tax info stashed away.

But it’s a certainty that 45 will piss and moan about California, even more than he does now.

[BeyondGeography]

3. Then he could lose the PV by 10-15 million votes and still win

To which I say more reefer please.

He would never give CA his tax returns, I agree with that.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

8. True

[pecosbob]

4. One would think that the Trump Justice Department would challenge it

but then would the courts take the case? Remember they just ruled hands off of state gerrymandering. Either invalidate their former ruling or swallow the California law. You can't have both. I could see them trying to pull some legal chicanery.

[former9thward]

11. It is not "legal chicanery".

States can't add qualifications, which the U.S. Constitution does not have, to get access to the ballot. I predict it would be ruled unconstitutional.

[58Sunliner]

5. Go Gavin.

[DVRacer]

6. This has all kinds of "law of unintended consequences" to it

First: So the orange mad hatter get’s to run all over the country claiming California is changing the rules to avoid him running. Say he wins just enough folks over with his lies about those crazy California liberals boom re-elected. Or he comes up short and begins lawsuits in November that drag on past January, he remains in office while they are heard. Maybe even his Supreme Court sides with him and calls for another election this time turnout is lower and he wins, remember he has more campaign money than anyone else.

Second: If it is upheld and everything goes our way now you have a precedent. Imagine states being able to add whatever conditions they want on running for President. Well we need a long form birth certificate notarized by the doctor at the time of birth. We need all your school transcripts since 1st grade. Oh they can come up with some weird things I cannot even imagine I bet.

Jerry Brown was not stupid when he vetoed this before he was thinking ahead.

[stopbush]

7. Nope. The law applies only to the CA state PRIMARY election, not the GE.

Even if tRump is left off the primary ballot in CA, he will still be the R nominee.

This is a symbolic gesture.

[FakeNoose]

9. If Chump doesn't appear on the California primary ballot

... then they can't vote for him in the general election either, can they?

[stopbush]

10. Why? If a candidate loses the CA primary but gets the party nomination

are they not allowed on the ballot in the GE?

Candidates are selected by political parties. If the Rs say tRump is their nominee then he will be on the GE ballot, regardless of any primary results. Primary voters are not technically voting to elect a candidate. They are expressing their preference for who they would like the political party to nominate. The political party runs their own convention and in the end, they can nominate whoever they want.

CA is within their rights to keep tRump off the primary ballot for the simple reason that the State of CA pays for the primary. Basically, they announce the date of their primary and invite the parties to participate in that primary. Political parties could hold their own primaries, but they would have to pay for them. So they take advantage of the “free” primary. But participating means abiding by the state’s rules, which can mean holding a caucus instead of a primary, of holding a closed rather than an open primary, etc. Demanding a candidate release their taxes as the price of participating is just another state rule.

[FakeNoose]

13. No that's not the issue

If Chump decides not to run in the California primary - what is he giving up? He keeps his tax returns private, but is he giving up the opportunity to get his name on the ballot in the general election? That was my question.

[stopbush]

14. No. His name will be on the GE ballots in CA whether he runs in the CA primary or not.

The CA state constitution allows political parties to nominate their own presidential candidates in the general election.

[FakeNoose]

15. OK

Thanks for the info

[Codeine]

12. Primary elections have nothing to do

with the actual Presidential election.

[DVRacer]

17. I still don't believe this is a road to travel

But I do live in Oklahoma and can see how this can be twisted by the folks in office here.