House Democrats don't have a majority for impeachment, but support is growing

[still_one]

"The reality, however, is far different: Among House Democrats, a majority do not currently support even opening a formal impeachment inquiry, let alone an actual vote to impeach President Trump, House members and staff say."

vhttps://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-congress-democrats-impeachment-headcount-20190606-story.html

I find the arguments calling for impeachment by some here quite interesting, and have to wonder how many of those who seem the most "angry" that it isn't occurring have even bothered to write or call their representative, because that is the way it is done.

Some folks here seem to want to use Pelosi as a scape goat for this, but I would suggest that the way it is done is by contacting one's representative expressing that.

If the majority of representatives right now wanted impeachment, the process would start.

The fact that some seem to be unaware is that we don't have a majority right now to start impeachment.

That may change after the Mueller Testimony, but one thing that should be kept in mind is just because there is a lot of talk among certain groups within the Democratic party favoring impeachment, doesn't mean that the votes are there, which is why those who favor impeachment should contact their representatives

[Cha]

1. Thanks still_one. With all the

calls for Impeachment around here this is important news.

They can't start an inquiry without the votes. And, they don't have them yet. That doesn't mean it's not going to happen.

[still_one]

2. Some seem only too anxous to use Nancy Pelosi as a scape goat for this, when the reality is much

different.

My suspicions is that among some it is a convenient vehicle to criticize and jump all over the speaker

It was not unlike the same thing that happened during the ACA discussions where some were "outraged" that a public option or "MFA" wasn't offered, ignoring the fact that the votes were NOT there.

[Cha]

3. Oh gawd yes.. That was

was awful. That's a perfect analogy. I've seen so many dissing Nancy Pelosi.. when she doesn't have the votes.

And, here we are in 2019 with the ACA still holding on as a solid foundation to build on.. And many brilliant Dems trying to save it..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=201988

[crazytown]

5. Do people here expect Nancy Pelosi to say

aloud and (not so) proud 'I don't have the votes'?

Link to tweet

[still_one]

10. well said crazytown. Thanks

[brer cat]

17. +++

I think she is supposed to have a magic wand that she can wave and make everyone bend.

[EffieBlack]

18. And notice that many of the loudest "Nancy's weak because she won't impeach today" cheerleaders

were also the most fervent members of the “Pelosi must go because she’s scaring moderate voters in the swing states/Pelosi needs to go because we need new, younger blood” crowd?

Much of this has nothing to do with actually wanting impeachment and more to do with the scheme to weaken or get rid of Pelosi. And how better to try to do that than to blame and smear her, pretend she is the reason the House hasn’t yet impeached Trump AND, as an added bonus, enlist the help of Democrats who don’t realize they’re being ratfucked?

Pelosi’s too smart and experienced to fall for the game they’re trying to run on her. The question is whether Democrats will figure out they’re being played - just like in 2016 - and refuse to fall into that same trap again?

[brutus smith]

16. Time is running out

Isn't it Nancy job to get the votes?

[KPN]

4. Baloney. You haven't been paying attention. Many people here have

posted that they called their Congressional delegation as well as key committee leaders urging impeachment proceedings.

Frankly, your comment that you suspect some use impeachment as a cover for their basic dislike of Pelosi is obnoxious and arrogant.

[crazytown]

6. ...

Link to tweet

[KPN]

7. More baloney. McC isn't going to be influenced

by anyone here calling him — even if we all did.

Oh, and implying that not supporting Pelosi is really about misogyny is more baloney and even more galling. It’s frankly out of line.

[Cha]

9. Exactly, crazytown..

I've seen so many posts dissing Nancy Pelosi.. and she doesn't have the votes.

[KPN]

21. She leads the votes. My Congressman is

bulletproof. He’s following, but I’m going to call his office again this morning.

Look, I defended Pelosi for Speaker after the election here. But she’s wrong about this and I am going to continue to call her office as well.

[DinahMoeHum]

27. ". . .she doesn't have the votes. . ." Not yet, anyway.

But too many people here want everything done yesterday.

[still_one]

12. Did you even read the LA Times article, or do you just like to call me obnoxious and arrogant? Does

name calling do something for your ego bud

[KPN]

22. Yeah, I read it.

“name calling do something for your ego bud”. That’s rich. I said I found your comment obnoxious and arrogant. I still do, as I do the above quote.

[still_one]

24. right back at ya, since YOU were the one who started making PERSONAL insinuaqtions toward me

[KPN]

25. Your comment was what I said it was. I didn't start this.

[still_one]

26. My comment wasn't personally directed at you. Your comment was personslly and specifically directed

at me

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=12278087

[Cha]

30. Exactly, stillone.. it was an insulting

personal attack.

[still_one]

31. Thanks Cha, I saw it that way also

[blogslut]

8. What the hell, I'll write mine a letter

I'd call or email but every time I do that he puts me on a damned email/snail mail list. Also, he's a republican. But I'll do it.

BONUS THOUGHT: In my perfect world, people would flood congressional offices (with letters demanding impeachment) like it was the courtroom scene in Miracle on 34th Street. That would be cool.

[sinkingfeeling]

11. They keep postponing this and I keep losing support for them.

They look like the fraidy cats they are and an extremely weak party.

I have emailed and called the Speaker's office around 50 times. I sent 2 rounds of postcards to all House committee chairs via Steyer's organization. I have nothing but Republican reps.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

19. support would really grow if HEARINGS WERE ON TV

Most of the electorate still get their news via television. It should be filled with snippets of daily hearings by Democrats.

By the time Nixon resigned, there were people saying they wished he'd be impeached just to end the Watergate hearings on tv.

[brooklynite]

23. Every hearing is on TV...

If what you mean is, "on Broadcast channels", I think you'll be disappointed. In the 1970s, There were only three network, and people didn't have a lot of other choices. The audience for new Impeachment hearings won't be anything close to the one for Nixon.

[Me.]

20. Sanity

[Fiendish Thingy]

28. Any cowards remaining against impeachment by Labor Day should be primaried

By Dem candidates with the courage and conviction to defend the Constitution.

[StarfishSaver]

29. What if they're against impeachment because the constituents in their districts are against it?

Good luck wlth primarying those Members.

[still_one]

32. no, no, no. No Critical Thinking allowed

[Amimnoch]

33. Mine probably won't. I will remain supportive of her.

Lizzie Fletcher currently does not support impeachment.
She didn't support Representative Tlaib's resolution.
She has not been part of any of the impeachment legislation.

My district is blue for the first time in my adult life.
I understand if she supports impeachment without there being a much stronger case.. enough of one to have a plausible chance of it going through in the Senate, He will not be removed from office, and next year, my district will once again be red.

If someone does primary her in my district for this purpose not only will that person lose by a huge margin, they will likely do much to damage her chances of holding onto our district.

It's a shit sandwich, but it's the best sandwich available for my district.

In the House, she has voted overwhelmingly with our House leader and party. I have NO doubt in my mind.. not for a second.. that if she loses 2020, that vote is gone, and we're going to be one seat closer to a Republican majority reclamation.