Still waiting for the breaking point. Convinced it will NEVER come.

[maxrandb]

I kept hearing that eventually, Donnie Shit for Brains would do something so craven and crass that there would be a massive backlash against him.

I keep hearing that Donnie Shit for Brains "is not representative of what America is, or what it stands for.

I keep hearing that Donnie Shit for Brains would eventually collapse under the weight of his own corruption. That eventually he would go so far that even Retrumplicans could not be able to support him.

I'm coming to the realization that all I've heard is complete bullshit... especially that "Donnie Shit for Brains doesn't represent what America really is, or what America stands for".

If what I've heard was true, there's no way Donnie Shit for Brains would be packing our judiciary branch with flaming racist and hateful Federalists Society nutbags.

If what I've heard was true, thousands of Hate Radio stations would NOT be broadcasting without a thousand people outside the studios protesting.

If what I've heard was true, Retrumplicans would be joining with Democrats to demand Donnie Shit for Brains impeachment.

See, the problem is that no matter how many times we say that this shitshow is "NOT representative of what America stands for", we're telling ourselves a lie.

I traveled all over this country and all over this world during my 30 years in the Navy.

Despite little pockets here and there, Donnie Shit for Brains IS America.

I wish I were wrong, but we need to stop kidding ourselves... this shitshow IS America. And what's sad is that this is how it's always been.

Founded on freedom, with millions enslaved.

Touted for values we have never demonstrated or adhered to.

Claiming moral superiority, but so far from a moral ethos that it's a fucking joke.

There are things that we could do to change that, but nibbling at the margins won't do it.

Like that great rock anthem says; "Meet the new boss... same as the old boss".

[gordianot]

1. He crossed all lines some time ago.

Torturing children should have done it. The rest of the Republican Party is catching up. We have seen nothing yet.

[maxrandb]

2. The America we've been sold over the life of our country

Could never have elected this orange POS.

It's all been nothing but bullshit.

[UniteFightBack]

4. It's also the same America that elected Barack Obama. nt

[olegramps]

13. The major culpit is the right wing domination of broadcast stations spewing hatred and division.

[Lonestarblue]

3. Racism has taken over a significant part of our country,

and it is destroying the union. When racism is the primary calculus of who to vote for, Republicans will always win because they are the party of white people. I am not at all confident that we will win in 2020 because hatred of immigrants and minorities is a powerful motivator to get people out to vote. We need younger voters, who tend to be less racist, to vote in massive numbers to overcome the racist voters. That has not happened in recent elections, but I hope whoever our nominee is has a good social media and Internet campaign to reach those voters.

[AllaN01Bear]

18. raceisim has always been there . biuried in the background untill obama was elected,

and trump enabled it .

[maxrandb]

31. Yes, we used to treat racism like a drunk uncle

or the crazy aunt that spends her life ranting in the attic.

Hate Radio has put our drunk uncle in the White House and our crazy aunt as Senate Majority leader.

Hate Radio has bestowed power to people that should never be within 1,000 miles of the levers of power.

[maxrandb]

32. It's not just white people

I go to church with Greeks whose parents came here with nothing, didn't speak English, and some of them just love them some Donnie Shit for Brains.

I'm the grandson of an Irishman that was in the IRA, participated in the Easter Uprising and fled to the United States.

Some of my cousins also just love them some Donnie Shit for Brains.

It's disgusting... and it's also why I have cut Donnie Shit for Brains supporters out of my life.

I don't need the evil.

[Ferrets are Cool]

5. Great, sobering post.

[SlogginThroughIt]

6. There is no breaking point.

They don’t care and they are taking away our abilities to do anything about it as well.

This has been coming for a long time. They have been laying the groundwork cutting us off at the knees forever. Now it seems they can do whatever they want.

[Traildogbob]

24. Liberties and freedom

A major send off of national guard troops in Wisconsin, with elected "Leader" giving them a speech of, "your sacrifices are to protect the liberties and freedoms America enjoys". You know, look how great we have gotton for all the Irag war sacrifices our soldiers have made. Liberties and freedoms have never been stronger than GOP are making them. (Sarcasm, just so ya know) Thank you for your service GOP. How many have you sacrificed on the battlefield? The battlefield is here, not in the Middle East. The enemy is in the whitehouse and gerrymandered red states.

[hurple]

7. I am sad to say

I agree with your assessment 100%

[BigOleDummy]

12. As am I

Totally

[Nay]

36. Me, too. This is the end game, folks, and some of our leaders think they can tiptoe

through the monsters, reach across the aisle, etc., but those of us who know monsters when we see them realize we're being taken for a ride.

[58Sunliner]

8. What we need is more voter turnout, and a fair election process. Fraud/suppression has allowed them

a national soapbox to pretend to the masses that they were duly elected. I don't think Donny was. Neither was Bush. But that has always been part of the plan, to suppress voters and manipulate the means. Manufacturing consent. Now it has moved into even more territory thanks to social media and hacking. Yes, our country is framed on some big lies.

[luvtheGWN]

22. "A fair election process" -- YES!

Which is what you do not have.

In a federal election, it's astounding to me that individual states are allowed to draw voting districts and have their own voting systems.

I realize it all stems from throwing state voting into the same day as federal voting, as well as the Constitution trying to weigh federal rights against states rights.

But democracy as an idea has failed in the U.S.A., and don't get me started on the Electoral College. You may call yourselves a democratic republic, but when whoever has the most money determines election outcomes, then there is no democracy.

[NoMoreRepugs]

9. I concur with your opinion max.

[dalton99a]

10. There is no bottom for Republicans. There is no depth to their depravity.

It would be utterly foolish to think otherwise

[Initech]

11. I would have thought that concentration camps would have been the breaking point.

But nope, his fucking asshole white supremacist base is actually trying to support an argument that they shouldn't be called concentration camps because not enough people died in them to warrant that status. Just...

[vlyons]

14. As long as our tax dollars go to creating

and maintaining a massive war machine, hell-bent on world domination and supporting world resource vampires and enforcing wage slave-level labor, then don't expect much to change. It's up to us to do something about it.

[spanone]

15. there is no 'breaking point'. they support his racism 1,000,000%

[DVRacer]

16. As a fellow sailor yup

Nobody wants to admit it but they love watching Jerry Springer too. SSDD

[bucolic_frolic]

17. If what you say is true

the Founding Fathers were a statesmen aggregation of the best human nature could be, and all is lost when that aura is broken.

Not saying history doesn't support everything you say. We have only America to prove it. All other democracies fell. Monarchies wax hot and cold depending on the infighting of the moment. Revolutions persist. Organizing for the Common Good was a dream of the Great Enlightenment political philosophers. Their ideas endure, but the political fallout has bedeviled the best they can throw at the problem.

[zaj]

19. No!

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"Despite little pockets here and there, Donnie Shit for Brains IS America."

You are an enabler when you surrender America, the flag and patriotism to them.

They are freaking the eff out because they *were* America. But demographics are changing and, the next generation believes in diversity.

They can and will own the right to define the values that define America. And here you are surrendering everything to the racist minority because...

You want to stomp your feet in anger?

No,
*we* live by American values
*we* are the meting pot
*we* represent the future of this country
*we* define America, because
*we* are America.

[ancianita]

23. +1000 You are right. We are not what we are called. We are what we answer to.

[maxrandb]

34. All that you say may be true

But to quote Humphrey Bogart...if we don't start reflecting what you say at the ballot box... not just every 4 years, but down to the local dogcatcher election level

ALL that you say "doesn't amount to a hill of beans in this world"!

[zaj]

35. What are your plans for helping create that future?

That's the *only* question that matters right now.

[maxrandb]

40. I work with my local Democratic party

I volunteer. I worked to help Elaine Luria beat that POS Scott Taylor in VA Beach.

I've called and got my voice heard on our local Hate Radio station...so they are only spewing 99.9999999% white supremacists bullshit.

Sure would be nice if the 67% of Norfolk voters that voted for Democrats would do something with the economic power they have to squash a radio station that demonizes and dehumanizes them, like a plague infected cockroach.

Ask yourself this. Could Hate Radio stations survive on just the Dumbfuckistan 'Murika shitholes where a majority of fucksticks support their racist, fascist shit...or would they struggle to survive if they lost the economic power of San Francisco, Los Angeles, Chicago, New York, Seattle, Minneapolis, Atlanta and even cities like Norfolk, Portsmouth, Hampton, Newport News and VA Beach?

I'm going to continue to do what I can to defeat Retrumplicans from president to PTA Chairman, but there's power in numbers. And let's admit it... they're ALL Retrumplicans now!

Let Hate Radio try to sell their advertisers stuff in Dumbfuckistan 'Murika.

Major economically powerful cities and blue areas, ought to use all the power they have to remove these platforms until they stop spewing racist hate and dehumanizing the majority of citizens in those cities.

[c-rational]

20. My gut says you speak truth.

[dajoki]

21. There are more of us than there are of them...

the problem is that states with small populations control more power than the states with the largest populations.

[maxrandb]

25. Are there really more of us than there are of them?

If that were true, there would be bricks through the windows of Hate Radio stations in every 80/20 Blue to red cities in America


Metaphorically, of course.

But can someone tell me what business model supports a radio station that demonizes and dehumanizes 80% of the community they serve?

It would be like Nazi Radio broadcasting in an 80% Jewish community and the people just shrugging

[dajoki]

39. The same business model that runs the US government n/t

[ancianita]

27. You wish you were wrong? Seriously? You ARE wrong. You ignore two MAJOR things.

No matter the faults and parallels you draw from your life experience, America is an idea. To Americans. However they live. Whatever stories they believe, they still believe that one Founders' story.

Read Jill Lapore's two latest: This America: The Case for the Nation (2019) and These Truths: A History of the United States (2019)

You see what your military and white male screens allow you to see. But you may not convince everyone here that your view of Americans is the truest.

The other major thing: you've been a sucker for the outsized influence that media likes to puff itself up to believe it has on Americans.

Take the vote count. SFB donnie won with 63 mil.
That's only 19.% of all the American population at that time.
Do media mention that low number? No.
SFB donnie's influence flows through that amplifying, puffing-up media that must fill content and time slots.

A lot of noise to signal, not signal to noise.
Today, while there is, in reality, a mountain of rightful legal investigations on his criminality going on, THAT is something most Americans are vaguely aware of.

Take Twitter.

Twitter is known by Americans and foreigners. 87% claim to know ABOUT it,
but just 7% of Americans actually use Twitter. That's IT.
Fewer than one in 13 Americans who know about Twitter. That's not much.
Checking other sources, Politifact Texas reports Pew, that says 68 percent of U.S. adults are Facebook users and 21 percent use Twitter. At most.

People here think Trump uses Twitter the way Hitler used radio. It's not true. Hitler subsidized radio ownership 1930-39, and by 1941, 65% of Germans owned radios. So, ownership of Twitter accounts isn't even close, and neither is the Trump/Hitler parallel when factually looked at.

Just the voting population, along with Twitter and FB account facts should show everyone here that whaterever YOU believe about whatever shit-for-brains donnie is -- and how that proves the rest of Americans are like him -- prove you wrong.

Aware of him, yes. Like him? You're selling koolaid.
Just because you announce SFBD IS America, doesn't mean America is like him. At all. Sailor on the ocean, you haven't gotten around enough to be convincing.


You can knock off the fear mentality that's mixed a koolaid cocktail you're passing out here to drink. It gets a buzz but it's not nutritious. Drink it yourself. But I won't.

[ancianita]

37. See my post above. He's given too much credit for brains, and outsized influence from only 7% of

Twitter users who media give waaay too much hype to.

This WH thug only appeals to 20% of the country, if that.

So we hurt ourselves when we think he's all that influential, and when believe media hype.

Media try to make him a big deal, but as our foreign allies know, he's a nothing burger.

[Blecht]

29. Yes, this is how it has always been.

I left the country after 10 years of Reagan-Bush insanity and came back near the end of Clinton's second term. I thought it might get better. I was wrong.

[Thomas Hurt]

30. LOL, well we are all being hysterical or society doesn't care.

We will find out in the next pres election. Get out the vote!

[Everyman Jackal]

33. Claiming moral superiority

when we throw American citizens into camps because they aren't White. Sterilizing women because their IQ isn't high enough. Finding how high a radiation dose a child can stand by feeding radioactive cereal to "morons". That was Harvard and MIT. Tuskegee Experiment telling men they would receive medical help for syphilis but didn't because they wanted to track how the disease progressed. Do I need to continue?

[ancianita]

38. Do you need to continue what. Saying that we haven't moral superiority? You really think that the

morality of the REST of us is defined by the WORST of us?

It's not. Even science has decried your examples, and they existed a hundred years ago.
The best of us are not racist or sexist.

The claim of moral superiority is like the claim of being a gentleman. If you have to claim it, you aren't.

Just to act on a moral compass is enough. The moral compass of the rest of us put a Democratic majority in the House, put up 24+ Democratic Party candidates, and will, if they're not cheated in the 2020 election, put a Democratic majority into the Senate.

They don't pretend to need moral superiority to just be moral. They just need clear, fact-based, properly contextualized truth and information. They get starvation rations from most of our media.

[Mc Mike]

41. I never thought the repugs would break with li'l bush, but Katrina started the crumble.

It was a typical performance from li'l bush, I never thought his sucky moves would make his fans even bat an eyelash.

No repug candidates would have him campaign for them, from '08 through today. All his diehard fan voters voted for tRump, a guy who attacked li'l bush. None of those fans would admit they voted for li'l bush, or say anything bad about li'l donnie when he attacked the guy they were 'with til the end'.



None of the repugs were in favor of getting rid of nixon, until all of the sudden a ton of them were.

[IcyPeas]

42. it'll only end when he actually does shoot somebody on fifth avenue

wouldn't that be an interesting ending to this nightmare?

[ProfessionalLeft]

43. That's about the only thing Donnie SFB has been right about

His base wouldn't care.