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Dread Pirate Roberts

(1,896 posts)
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 11:26 AM Jul 2019

The complaint in Johnson v. Epstein & Trump

I hadn't seen this document before. I did a search of Epstein and Trump and came across this case. Katie Johnson's case was dismissed because it was brought as a Civil Rights case under 18 USC 2241 and the judge found that she failed to make a valid claim for discrimination under a defined protected class-not that the allegations weren't credible. She was representing herself in this matter.

I caution the feint of heart before reading the allegations in this complaint. They are both lurid and disgusting. They also ring true. Out of respect for those who would be offended, I will not post the details here and leave it to your own good judgement if you wish to read it for yourself. If Ms. Johnson's account is accurate-well, I'll just say that in a former life, I put people in jail for a very long time for less (but still abhorrent) culpable conduct. Having interviewed dozens of sexual assault victims, I find the account set forth by Ms. Johnson in this complaint to be credible based upon the tone and detail of her factual recitation. I would have needed to have a more detailed investigation completed before proceeding criminally, but her story would certainly have warranted further inquiry. Unfortunately, a 22 year gap is a long time when it comes to putting a case together. Epstein & Trump both need to rot in jail.

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.646485.1.0.pdf

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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
2. Nothing surprising in that, I think.
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 12:01 PM
Jul 2019

Dismissed on a technicality, because it was filed in the wrong court and she wasn't part of a protected class under federal law. That doesn't mean things did not happen exactly as described. They probably did.

A civil suit was filed, probably because there wasn't enough solid evidence for a criminal charge to go to trial. That happens all the time in cases like this. That doesn't mean it didn't happen as described. It probably did. The story rings true.

Maraya1969

(22,482 posts)
5. I had never heard about trump actually raping a woman, (or girl) and I had forgotten
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 12:46 PM
Jul 2019

that rape is an act of violence and of hatred.

I hope these charges are spread far and wide; let the evangelicals try and justify this.

What horrible men.

dlk

(11,567 posts)
6. If You Search E. Jean Carroll Online, She was Raped by Trump
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 01:27 PM
Jul 2019

We’re just beginning to scratch the surface of Trump’s crimes.

kag

(4,079 posts)
9. Could this be re-opened?
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 01:41 PM
Jul 2019

Could this case be re-opened in the "right" way? I'm just curious if this woman could still get some kind of relief from the courts. I don't know any of the laws well enough, nor anything about statutes of limitation. Just curious.

Karadeniz

(22,528 posts)
10. Do you think that a lawyer with Lisa Blooms reputation also vouches for the allegations?
Fri Jul 12, 2019, 01:45 PM
Jul 2019

Ms. Bloom apparently had the presser all lined up when Jane Doe withdrew her suit, so Ms. Bloom must've felt she had a case. Jane Doe cited threats. I wish I could remember which article spelled out the extreme measures Epstein s legal team went to to intimidate the accusers and their legal team at the time of the Acosta -related charges. Just mind-boggling. Makes one appreciate that Jane Doe could well and truly been genuinely terrified of pressing her case.

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