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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDershowitz: 'I Kept My Underwear On' During Massage At Epstein's Mansion
https://crooksandliars.com/2019/07/alan-dershowitz-i-kept-my-underwear-duringYesterday, Axios' Jonathan Swan was just floored when Dershowitz told them he did get a massage at Epstein's residence but it was from a very "old, old Russian woman."
Swan had the same reaction that we all did which is "What the hell is going on?" It's insane.
Now Dershowitz is adding more details to his story and it's not doing him a lick of good. I can never un-watch this or rinse out my brain, and neither can you.
Epstein's butler testified under oath that Dershowitz was present when underage girls were around, according to court filings.
In an interview via Skype, Dershowitz insisted he never saw an underage girl at Epstein's house, but was worked on by an older lady. Huh?
"Were there young women in another part of the house giving massages when I wasn't around? I have no idea of that," he said.
"I kept my underwear on during the massage," Dershowitz went on to stammer. "I don't like massages particularly."
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Why do they even bother coming up with excuses when whatever they do apparently doesn't matter to cult followers?
rpannier
(24,339 posts)and faux spews will gladly tell you that you are
dalton99a
(81,621 posts)Last edited Thu Jul 11, 2019, 09:59 AM - Edit history (1)
amywalk
(254 posts)ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)Epic fail Douchewitz.
renegade000
(2,301 posts)tblue37
(65,490 posts)tavernier
(12,407 posts)My first thought.
brush
(53,908 posts)What happened to this guyfrom respected attorney to trump boot licker to an image he would have us believe, one we can't unsee of a pudgy, pasty, white drooler in tighty whities getting manhandled by a stern Russian babushka (so not true).
Ouch, ouch. My eyes, my eyes. Someone get the Visine, fast.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)spanone
(135,888 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,224 posts)GemDigger
(4,305 posts)and a young girl spoke of doing Dershowitz. That transcript will come out again and Dersh will be toast.
Ponietz
(3,026 posts)Last edited Fri Jul 12, 2019, 05:40 PM - Edit history (1)
[link:https://www.abqjournal.com/521794/sex-slave-suit-nm-was-a-location-used.html|
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Not the men's club, not a gym, not a normal place, but to a friends house.
Demovictory9
(32,475 posts)Skittles
(153,202 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)MFM008
(19,820 posts)......
Autumn
(45,120 posts)The same filing also alleges that Jane Doe No. 3 was forced by Epstein to have sex with famous attorney and Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz numerous times, again at locations around the world, including in New Mexico.
Epstein owns or has owned a 26,700-square-foot mansion near Stanley south of Santa Fe on 10,000 acres known as the Zorro Ranch. The court filings dont say where specifically in New Mexico the alleged sexual assaults took place.
Meadowoak
(5,562 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Really?
Meadowoak
(5,562 posts)when you "don't like massages particularly"! This post just cracked me up.
amywalk
(254 posts)PatSeg
(47,623 posts)a smart man. It always blows my mind that people who do such things, honestly don't consider that some day they could get caught.
get the red out
(13,468 posts)I guess refusing would be rude, like criticizing the food.
PatSeg
(47,623 posts)How could he possibly refuse his host's hospitality?
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,505 posts)hasn't done that? Am I right??..... ***crickets *****
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)If not, what class of people do you plebes associate with?
When I show up to visit they drop like a 10-lb photo album on my lap, tell me to take my pick, and then a jovial, smiling Morgan Freeman shows up in a golf cart, and shuttles me to the proper wing of the estate to receive the massage from the person of my choice.
Skittles
(153,202 posts)the idea of a stranger feeling me up.......um, no
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)At the time of the "massage", Epstein had been under formal investigation for child rape for many years. As his lawyer, Dershowitz would have known about all the details.
So I suppose one can say Epstein is entitled to a legal defense just like every other American, so Dershowitz can't be faulted for representing Epstein, but that doesn't mean he had to pal around with him. It speaks volumes that he was attending his parties and accepting "massages".
global1
(25,274 posts)ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)One surreal hit after another.
womanofthehills
(8,780 posts)Anon-C
(3,430 posts)33taw
(2,448 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,636 posts)Who believes you? NOBODY! Al still thinks he is a BIGman but he is really just a PIGman!
The charade is over pal.
madaboutharry
(40,224 posts)Dershowitz told Swan he kept his underwear on and was given a massage by an old, old Russian lady.
One would think that even in his dotage that Dershowitz would have come up with something better than a cockamamie story like this one.
Skittles
(153,202 posts)Princetonian
(1,501 posts)Watch the rats squeal.
Demovictory9
(32,475 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)for 50 years and not come up with a story like we have been watching since 2016.
It seems our mantra has been .." Can you believe THIS???" every single day.
LuckyLib
(6,821 posts)And William Barr's father gave Epstein a math/physics teaching job at an exclusive private school in Manhattan even though he had dropped out of college twice?
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)Might be a tad more apt!
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)Wawannabe
(5,680 posts)Ground hog day. Shit!
I am so DONE!
Botany
(70,592 posts)Vlad Putin has been working the long game on America for years and is this part of that
or just an old fashioned Godfather 2 Sen. Pat Geary, moment when the Senator after waking up
with the dead girl in mob owned brothel and Tom Hagen, mob lawyer, tells the senator
"We got this all taken care of."
Wawannabe
(5,680 posts)What if majority of gop has had massages and that is the very reason they are sticking together like glue?
tblue37
(65,490 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Botany
(70,592 posts)Old to Epstein is 19
In a house full of hot young "models" who were flown in for sex Dershowitz choose to
have his "massage by an older woman.
yardwork
(61,712 posts)They were apparently willing participants in child rape and sex trafficking. Easy targets for all kinds of blackmail.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,434 posts)The older masseuse was 16. Thats old, compared to the rest of the workers. They were between 12 and 14.
Trumpys just as sick, though. Thats just the way his fans like it.
flor-de-jasmim
(2,125 posts)His underwear was around his knees, but was still "on.
"
Indykatie
(3,697 posts)EveHammond13
(2,855 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,234 posts)hibbing
(10,109 posts)RockRaven
(15,016 posts)Dersh's way of referring to a 14, or 15, or 16, or 17 year-old? Seems like a reasonable question for a scum-bag like him.
Because he did not explicitly say so; nor did he say so in a context in which lying has a specific and certain penalty...
Lady Freedom Returns
(14,120 posts)Scratch that. It has going to.
Hassler
(3,390 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Life comes at you fast.
Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)LuvNewcastle
(16,858 posts)with a hole in the ass.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)But thanks for sharing.
yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,917 posts)And now I can't un-see it dammit!
Midnight Writer
(21,812 posts)BootinUp
(47,197 posts)dlk
(11,578 posts)I'm smelling desperation.
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dalton99a
(81,621 posts)Initech
(100,107 posts)PatrickforO
(14,593 posts)Sure you did. We all believe you...
Blue Owl
(50,519 posts)itsrobert
(14,157 posts)He's not lying
Jarqui
(10,130 posts)I don't know if they can get him but they're getting his reputation, legacy and many future opportunities he might have otherwise had.
I have a strong feeling a lot of powerful men are involved and that's why Epstein got the deal he did and was able to keep a lid on it.
They need to flip one of his enablers/recruiters.
I'm sure AG Barr is going to do his best to squash this
Tre45on
(12 posts)Donorrhea?
Klanmydia?
Acquired Integrity Deficiency Syndrome?
JI7
(89,276 posts)Opel_Justwax
(230 posts)JDC
(10,135 posts)His defense before was this was all political. He is as greasy as the rest. Definitely solidified his no invites to dinner on Martha's Vineyard status.
Kablooie
(18,641 posts)At least 16 years old!
Mme. Defarge
(8,045 posts)rather than boxers.
Historic NY
(37,453 posts)[link:|]
OnDoutside
(19,974 posts)Wawannabe
(5,680 posts)KPN
(15,662 posts)TlalocW
(15,392 posts)Dershowitz has recently been complaining about how he's been getting invited to parties in Martha's Vineyard because he was a critic of the Mueller investigation (earning him a private meeting with Trump).
Maybe some of his fellow rich-and-famous "fair-weathered" friend heard about Epstein and by connection, Dershowitz, through the grapevine.
TlalocW
tblue37
(65,490 posts)True Blue American
(17,992 posts)He hired young, dumb girls who needed the money.
Maru Kitteh
(28,343 posts)The victims were young, and predators know how to hit their marks. They were vulnerable and inexperienced. Those young females were exploited and vandalized. Let us NOT participate in harming them further by labeling them as "dumb." That's reprehensible.
True Blue American
(17,992 posts)These young girls needed money, and played right into Epstein's hands. They were not mature enough to deal with a monster like Epstein and Trump.
That is why I used the word. I am reading Pattersons book now. It is so sickening. I am not sure I can finish because I know the ending. Acosta is a lying dog of a man. To think we have 2 just alike in office is more than I can deal with.
usaf-vet
(6,215 posts)milestogo
(16,829 posts)uponit7771
(90,364 posts)struggle4progress
(118,359 posts)have gotten the plea deal I arranged for him!"
tblue37
(65,490 posts)Flaleftist
(3,473 posts)47of74
(18,470 posts)To the legal profession.
And as a human being.
underpants
(182,919 posts)duforsure
(11,885 posts)Would he take a lie detector test, and say that under oath? Like trump has done with many issues, he's lying and wouldn't do either. He also is repeating the lie like trump does, and repeat it enough hoping people will buy his BS story. Like trump, when girls come out claiming that was a lie , he'll claim they are lying and attack them, again like trump does, then threaten them with legal actions.
Ilsa
(61,698 posts)DeminPennswoods
(15,290 posts)Dershowitz is still listed on their Law School faculty list as a professor emeritus.
FM123
(10,054 posts)So Epstein kept not only a stable of young vulnerable girls that he exploited, but a bunch of foreign senior citizens he recruited from a nearby nursing home just in case that dirtbag Dershowitz stopped by?
MaryMagdaline
(6,856 posts)Vinca
(50,312 posts)UpInArms
(51,284 posts)"Defendant Dershowitz was Epstein's attorney, close friend, and co-conspirator. Dershowitz was also a participant in sex trafficking, including as one of the men to whom Epstein lent out Plaintiff for sex," the lawsuit alleges.
CincyDem
(6,397 posts)zackymilly
(2,375 posts)Kid Berwyn
(14,979 posts)Joe Cocker would want to know.
calguy
(5,334 posts)that's a Randy Newman song. But I'm sure Joe did a fine job singing it.
MFGsunny
(2,356 posts)Harvard and his clients should be entitled to an I-HIRED-AN-IMBECILE refund/rebate.
MineralMan
(146,335 posts)Hekate
(90,840 posts)Buckeyeblue
(5,502 posts)But when he wants one it must be completed by an old Russian hag. Sounds reasonable to me.
I have a visual of Dershowitz slinking around the mansion in his boxes and brown socks, trying to find the room that doesn't contain the old Russian hag.
Also, please excuse my use of the word hag. I don't mean it to be demeaning. It just sounds funny. But also Dershowitz does more to demean by implying an older Russian woman can't be sexually attractive.
unblock
(52,339 posts)people made fun of "i didn't inhale" as not credible.
this statement by dershowitz is 10 times worse.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)He's saying that he can skip the massage part.
For a socalled brilliant legal mind, he is not giving any better excuse that a guy caught drinking bottle after bottle of cheap wine outside a liquor store that has it's alarm going off.
eleny
(46,166 posts)tandem5
(2,072 posts)Response to tandem5 (Reply #107)
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oasis
(49,410 posts)Now Trump can say "That happened to me, too".
Brilliant move.
Mike Nelson
(9,970 posts)
anything can happen with your underwear on, during a sexual encounter; also, there is an opening in the front. You need to change your story. I suggest you admit a preference for women's underwear.
You're welcome.
Dirty Socialist
(3,252 posts)And this is all he can come up with?
soryang
(3,299 posts)he's violating the primary rule in criminal law, keep your mouth shut.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Marcuse
(7,520 posts)Baltimike
(4,148 posts)SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)If all this "massagery" happened as recently as 2008, that would make him SEVENTY years old..
WTF does it even matter if "he left his underwear on"?
WTF is it with these looney-tunes old men who "need" massages.. What exactly do they DO, to make massages necessary?
I can see it for sportspeople who routinely punish their muscles, but lazy old white guys?? not so much..
These are just weirdos who like to subjugate/assault/rape attractive teens & barely-teen girls..
Pedophiles are just pedophiles.
Everyman Jackal
(271 posts)That's because I threw up reading the headline.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)Ew.
peggysue2
(10,842 posts)This is a genuine take-off from the Clinton years: But I never inhaled.
The rats are getting very, very nervous. He kept his underwear on for the very old Russian woman.
You can't make this stuff up, except when you have to to save your own neck.
I want to see if Dershowitz sticks to this story as the public laughs its ass off.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)GeorgeGist
(25,324 posts)I didn't inhale claim.
LuvNewcastle
(16,858 posts)beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)C_U_L8R
(45,021 posts)The image of Dersh in his whities makes me wanna barf
yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)No wonder he defends Trump. He has a steamer trunk full of dirty laundry wedgied under his bed.
yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)And would it still not be unethical to accept a favor like that from a client? Don't see how her age gets him a pass.
George II
(67,782 posts)A little advice for Mr. Douchowitz - when you dig yourself into a hole, stop digging.