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Wed Jul 10, 2019, 05:25 PM Jul 2019

The Event that Saved 1968

From the second installment of PBS Chasing the Moon, culminating with the description of the successful mission of Apollo 8 that left the earth orbit and circled the moon. And this, after the tragic death of the Apollo 1 astronauts where, even today, the exact reasons are not known:

"Everything seemed to come to a head in '68. There were the assassinations of two of the leaders of the more liberal causes. Bobby Kennedy, shortly after winning that election in California that probably would have put him over the top as the presidential candidate that year, and Martin Luther King, of course, in Memphis, was a terrible blow to the entire cause of civil rights. By the summer of '68 the Democratic convention turned out to be a terrible shambles of violence and counter-violence by the Chicago police... By December the country was pretty far down."

In other parts of the world, violence escalated. The year had begun with the Tet offensive, and the American death toll in Vietnam would surpass fourteen thousand by year's end. Soviet tanks in Czechoslovakia prompted President Lyndon Johnson to cancel arms treaty negotiations with the U.S.S.R. Student protests in Paris escalated into a battle between unions and the de Gaulle government. Hundreds of students were killed in Mexico, just weeks before the Olympic Games in which African Americans raised their black-gloved fists in protest against American racism.

Historian Andrew Chaikin recounts, "Inside NASA, they were almost in a cocoon of focus and determination and just the absolute all-out effort to get to the moon by the end of the decade. They really couldn't afford to be too distracted by what was happening in the rest of the country. It wasn't out of a callousness; it was just that that's what the program demanded of them, that kind of total focus.

The program ended:

"We got millions of telegrams after we landed, but the one I remember most was, 'Congratulations to the crew of Apollo 8. You saved 1968.' We didn't save it [ourselves] — but a lot of the people who made Apollo work saved it."
— Frank Borman, Apollo 8 astronaut

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/moon-event-saved-1968/

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The Event that Saved 1968 (Original Post) question everything Jul 2019 OP
And Earthrise taken with a stripped down Hasselblad made Apollo 8 Brother Buzz Jul 2019 #1
Indeed. Beautiful. Just finished watching the last segment, with Apollo 11 question everything Jul 2019 #3
I saw it too, and it filled in a lot of voids Brother Buzz Jul 2019 #4
While all of that was true customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #2

Brother Buzz

(36,467 posts)
1. And Earthrise taken with a stripped down Hasselblad made Apollo 8
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 05:36 PM
Jul 2019

Earthrise, taken on December 24, 1968, by Apollo 8 astronaut William Anders.


question everything

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3. Indeed. Beautiful. Just finished watching the last segment, with Apollo 11
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 11:41 PM
Jul 2019

when the poor astronauts were shuffled from city to city, to be interviewed.

And Neal Armstrong did say that looking at earth from space it looked as an oasis. And how important it was to preserve it.

Brother Buzz

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4. I saw it too, and it filled in a lot of voids
Thu Jul 11, 2019, 12:03 AM
Jul 2019

I may be the only person in the world that has no memory of the moon landing. I believe I was on 'The Mother of all road trips' when all that happened. And when I say 'I believe' I have to defer to the saying, "If you can remember the 1960's, you weren't really there"




customerserviceguy

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2. While all of that was true
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 05:43 PM
Jul 2019

there is one exception, the statement that had Bobby Kennedy would have been put over the top by victory in California. Just last week, I saw a play about RFK's last campaign, and I was motivated afterwards to look up the results.

From Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries

"At the moment of Kennedy's death, the delegate totals were:

Hubert Humphrey 561
Robert Kennedy 393
Eugene McCarthy 258"

The only primary left was Illinois, and the political machine had control of many of the delegates from that state. Humphrey was the establishment favorite, and the survival of RFK would not have changed that.

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