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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFew other places in the western world could withstand a 7.1 as well as SoCal did yesterday!
Good on them for strong building codes and excellent emergency response which led to the 7.1 having only minimal damage. A 7.1 is strong enough to wipe out a town like Ridgecrest but it looks like the earth fought Ridgecrest twice and lost not once, but twice!
We see the same thing in hurricanes. A category 5 hit Florida last October and barely left a mark.
Looks like we learned our lessons from past disasters and Mother Nature has at least a formidable foe in us.
msongs
(67,417 posts)crack, but they are not likely to fall down
JI7
(89,252 posts)just think of other countries where this happens without many standards or enforcement of them.
BigmanPigman
(51,609 posts)Japan has the best and most current anti-earthquake ideas/input. I always listen to what they say and do when it comes to earthquakes and tsunamis. If they had a 9+ quake and hardly any deaths or damage you know that they know what they are doing.
dalton99a
(81,515 posts)The isolation devices are essentially giant rubber-and-steel pads that are installed at the very bottom of the excavation for a building, which then simply sits on top of the pads. The dissipation units are built into a buildings structural skeleton. They are hydraulic cylinders that elongate and contract as the building sways, sapping the motion of energy.
The country that gave the world the word tsunami, especially in the 1980s and 1990s, built concrete seawalls in many communities, some as high as 40 feet, which amounted to its first line of defense against the water. In some coastal towns, in the event of an earthquake, networks of sensors are set up to set off alarms in individual residences and automatically shut down floodgates to prevent waves from surging upriver.
BigmanPigman
(51,609 posts)emergency procedures and precautions. They know it is serious business.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,370 posts)Please do a Google image search of Hurricane Michael damage and tell me you dont see just a few marks.
It fucking DENUDED almost the entire town of Mexico Beach.
Shit, theyre STILL cleaning that up almost a year later.
Barely left a mark my ass.
NewsCenter28
(1,835 posts)Regarding Hurricane Michael, I meant there weren't horrific fatalities either.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,370 posts)Because I think 31 people dying as a direct result of a storm is pretty horrific. Whats your threshold? 65 people? Hurricane Andrew. 1800? Hurricane Katrina.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Michael
You chose a bad example in trying to make your point.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Katrina left no mark either.
Those wildfires in CA awhile back were barely noticed.
If that 7.1 had hit LA, it would have been a different story - so said a seismologist I heard on CNN today.
SharonAnn
(13,776 posts)Damage. One picture shown worldwide of the one apartment building that partially collapsed. There werent more pictures because there werent more examples.
Wall cracks, broken water lines in a few places, lightweight pedestrian overpasses, really pretty minor. Thats one reason I didnt realize, though I lived through it, how serious an earthquake it was.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)She knows that we won't survive that, so no need to plan the heavyweight stuff.
Xolodno
(6,395 posts)...Repubs bitch and moan about California's regulations stifling business. But when shit hits the fan, the government isn't doing a massive bailout...or even declaring the town lost and should be bull dozed. Those regulations save tax payers money...and countless lives.
Retrograde
(10,137 posts)California is a big state - 3rd after Alaska and Texas. We were lucky that this week's quakes were in a relatively unpopulated and remote area.
We do have strong building codes, and people who've lived here long enough to have gone through a few quakes do take precautions, but there are still much more heavily populated areas on major faultlines that may not be as lucky. And we have a lot of people who moved here during the quiet period of the last 20 years who've never experienced a quake and may not be aware of what they can do in advance to prevent harm to themselves.
NewsCenter28
(1,835 posts)The poster above describes the experience had in Chile during their 8+ earthquake, which I remember watching on TV all night. The poster describes very little damage even in Chile. I suspect Los Angeles or San Francisco would be similarly luckily if that 7.1 last night had, had it's epicentre right beneath them. In my opinion, what it really comes down to should SF/LA ever have another big one will be how many old buildings are left standing that are not built up to the newer stronger building codes. If we can go another decade or two without that kind of situation, those old buildings may all be gone and replaced with up-to-spec earthquake-coded buildings.
Also, I am well aware of how big CA is geographically and also that it has 55 (the most) electoral college votes.
Retrograde
(10,137 posts)than a 7+ one. Chile's population density may not be the same as the Bay Area's, and I don't know where it was centered with respect to populated areas.
I've been through a ~7 point earthquake - Loma Prieta in 1989. We were very lucky then. Since that event, the population of the area has roughly doubled, and while we do have stringent building codes we also have a lot of older buildings (I live in one) and infrastructure that hasn't been improved.
I don't think earthquakes care about how many electoral votes a region has.