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Past defeats still scare older Democratic leaders but not the younger generation
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2019/07/05/feature/haunted-by-the-reagan-era/?utm_term=.550fae2b6893&wpisrc=nl_rainbow&wpmm=1
Newly elected Democrats in the House of Representatives spent June 27 with the sinking feeling that it was happening again: Their party was going to cave to President Trump and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on a viscerally emotional issue. Just after a searing photo circulated of a father and his young daughter who had drowned in each others arms while fleeing for the sanctuary of U.S. shores, Democrats in Congress let a GOP-drafted spending bill go through that did nothing to address conditions for detained immigrant children abandoning a House version that would have ordered improvements. House leaders blamed Senate Democrats for capitulating; Senate Democrats attacked the House for poor negotiating.
The new insurgent class of Democrats put the fight in sharp moral terms. A vote for Mitch McConnells border bill is a vote to keep kids in cages and terrorize immigrant communities, said Rep. Ilhan Omar (Minn.). If you see the Senate bill as an option, then you dont believe in basic human rights, declared Rep. Rashida Tlaib (Mich.). Hell no. Thats an abdication of power, said Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (N.Y.).
Frustration with the refusal to stand up for principle is boiling over among younger Democrats. On issue after issue impeachment, Medicare-for-all, a $15 minimum wage, free public college, a Green New Deal the answer from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (Calif.) and other Democratic leaders is consistent: Now is not the time; the country isnt ready. Push too fast or too far, and therell be a backlash.
For newer members of the partys caucus, the older generations fear of a backlash is befuddling. Leadership is driven by fear. They seem to be unable to lead, said Corbin Trent, a spokesman for Ocasio-Cortez and and a co-founder of Justice Democrats, the insurgent political organization that powered her rise, while also backing Omar and Tlaib. Im not sure what caused it.
The answer, in short: the Gipper.
Good long read about the generational differences based on experiences. We're seeing a lot of this right here on DU. I was very young during Reagan but I saw Clinton and Obama try in vain to work with Republicans just to be obstructed and sabotaged relentlessly. Fox News and RW hate radio have convinced many folks that America is more conservative than it actually is.
PSPS
(13,601 posts)Add to that ABC's major promotion of Reagan through its new "Nightline" program.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)IronLionZion
(45,452 posts)so they doubled down on treason and shameless media promotion.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)positions ALWAYS comes out in favor of the former.
And yet----
lapucelle
(18,275 posts)As for HRC's time as a legislator...she was my senator. It wasn't quite the picture you paint.
https://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/senator-hillary-clinton-got-along-gop-president
IronLionZion
(45,452 posts)it was a lot of compromise, centrist "third way" policies, and they still impeached him.
lapucelle
(18,275 posts)shanny
(6,709 posts)lapucelle
(18,275 posts)shanny
(6,709 posts)Boomerproud
(7,955 posts)Council that convinced themselves that the only way Democrats could get elected was to be as Repug as possible. We got Don't Ask-Don't Tell and 3 Strikes Your Out garbage with the Starr investigation as the cherry on top. Still feel like a winner, Bill?
shanny
(6,709 posts)shanny
(6,709 posts)Nay
(12,051 posts)that they are no longer able to stand up for themselves or anyone else in any meaningful way. They cannot bring themselves to treat Trump as the dangerous buffoon he is -- they are afraid of what he will do to them. Their reactions to the GOP are also reminiscent of people in the beginning stages of dementia, like a friend of mine who has since died. When I visited him in the nursing home, I watched him as he tried to go through his mail. He was unable to tell which mail required his attention and which did not -- he paid as much attention to a pizza coupon as his bank statement. IMO, the present Dem leadership is in the same mental trap.
AOC has no problem getting to the heart of the issue; here's a relevant paragraph from the essay:
For the newcomers, this is completely foreign. To them, Republicans shouldnt be feared, they should be beaten. Ocasio-Cortez told me that she treats Republicans like buffoons because thats how theyve behaved for as long as she can remember. Even before I was of voting age, I saw Republicans accuse the Obamas of doing a terrorist fist bump, so theyve been clowns since I was a teen, she said.
There are many other points made in this essay that ring totally true. Please, everyone, read it.
appalachiablue
(41,144 posts)people need to move beyond the policies and rollback of The Gipper.
shanny
(6,709 posts)This is the party that dealt with the Great Depression, passed the New Deal, defeated Hitler, passed the Civil Rights Act, passed Medicare...we are capable of great things. And now great things are required.
appalachiablue
(41,144 posts)This ought to be broadcast regularly, thanks for the reminder...
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)worrying older more experienced Democrats...as consequences can be expected like giving Trump four more years if we displease voters and refuse to acknowledge that this is a centerl left country.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,357 posts)IronLionZion
(45,452 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,033 posts)Good article.
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)I am 62, and remember well the timidity of Democratic leadership during Reagan. They were, and still are terrified of being accused of unpatriotic by the RW.