A Canadian cartoonist was fired for this cartoon

[Demovictory9]

Link to tweet

[tblue37]

1. K&R for visibility. nt

[yellerpup]

2. K&R!

The cartoon speaks for itself.

[RainCaster]

3. This should be seen far and wide!

[Kid Berwyn]

4. Truth is the enemy of fascism.

Fuck you, Trump!

[DemocracyMouse]

55. Wait... shouldn't you also condemn the untalented people who fired that insightful cartoonist?

I hate seeing smart, compassionate, talented people fired by lesser souls.

[Kid Berwyn]

73. They are fascists, as well.

For putting their love of money cough power over free expression of ideas they are fucking fascists, too.

Thank you for the kind reminder, DemocracyMouse!

[Baitball Blogger]

5. The most clear depiction of our present dreadful situation.

Give that cartoonist a job and a raise. The truth is sometimes painful.

[spooky3]

79. It really is. Nt

[dalton99a]

6. Kick

[BigmanPigman]

7. Why?

[customerserviceguy]

20. Canada doesn't have a First Amendment

and values conformity and "niceness" over anything that might upset people. It's the difference between a country that fought for its freedom and one that waited until the British got tired of the cold weather and left of their own accord.

And I was born in Canada, and am lucky to have been made a citizen of the US during my early childhood.

[forkol]

27. It's important to note that the 1st Amendment...

in the USA only guards you against government prosecution, not corporate or private actions. The 1st Amendment would have been no help even if the cartoonist had been fired in the USA.

However, I do agree this seems over the top, and considered very mild compared to what would often be seen in the USA. Hopefully, some paper will hire this cartoonist.

[customerserviceguy]

28. That is true

but the First Amendment is a statement of principle that infuses American life, and things that would get you fired or worse in other countries tend to be tolerated here because of the influence of the spirit of that Amendment.

[Jarqui]

29. It was called the Bill of Rights

It is now called the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
It covers "freedom of conscience, freedom of religion, freedom of thought, freedom of belief, freedom of expression, freedom of the press and of other media of communication, freedom of peaceful assembly, and freedom of association."

They approach libel differently and that approach has merits.

I have a number of Canadian relatives whose families arrived before the country formed and whose descendants lost their lives wearing a uniform to fight to protect those freedoms. They'd be rolling in their graves reading your insulting comments about fighting for their freedom.

[customerserviceguy]

30. Excuse me

did your relatives fight in the Canadian Revolutionary War? Oh, that's right, there wasn't one.

There is no doubt that Canadians fought hard and bravely not only in both World Wars, but as a part of other joint operations as well, but there was no struggle, even a non-violent one, like India's against the British Empire. The way that the United States and Canada were formed make up some of the difference in outlook of the two nations.

Edited to add: The Charter of Rights and Freedoms was adopted in Canada in 1982, therefore, it was impossible for anyone to fight for it before that date. The Bill of Rights to the United States Constitution was ratified in 1791. With a difference of nearly two centuries between enshrining free speech rights in constitutional law, it can be expected to have had different impacts on the two societies' histories.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

41. You don't have to fire bullets to FIGHT for freedom, as if MLK Jr didn't fight for freedom. . . . nt

[customerserviceguy]

42. Did you read my whole post?

I specifically mentioned India's non-violent fight for its independence from Great Britain.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

47. India is not a reason to falsely claim that Canadians are stupid about freedoms. . . . nt

[customerserviceguy]

51. I didn't use the word stupid

However, I do think it is crazy to consider the political cartoon in the OP to be insulting to anyone other than Trump.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

45. You don't know your history of the multiple revolutions in Canada. . . . nt

[customerserviceguy]

53. As I recall, none were sufficiently widespread enough to be successful.

And the way that the French in Quebec almost abandoned the Acadians when the deportations took effect in 1755 is not a proud chapter in Canadian history.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

54. You can criticize Canadian 1755 deportations when you stop 2019 US child concentration camps. . . nt

[Jarqui]

78. Some of them fought as Canadian militia in the War of 1812 defending their homes

from being taken over by the US. Other Canadian militia defended the Fenian raids from the US during Confederation. Other Canadian militia fought the US Continental Army around 1775 in Quebec. French & Indian wars - other conflicts where they defended their homes.

Around the 1680s - a hundred years before the US Constitution was signed, the Bill of Rights for Parliament in the UK was passed. That law grants parliamentary privilege for freedom of speech and is in effect in Canada and the UK today. Many of the rights in the previous Bill of Rights in Canada and the current Charter were already in Canadian law - including laws that were on the UK books before Canada or the US came into existence.

The United States did not "invent" the concept of freedom of speech. For example, the Athenians had the concept 2,400 years before the US Constitution.

Canada did not want to be a part of the US. There were a number of reasons for "no struggle". They were pressed to form the county by the US doctrine of Manifest Destiny - which increased with the acquisition of Alaska and past attempts to intrude. The American Revolution and British Imperialism was like the UK's Vietnam in terms of the losses of sons to foreign campaigns. The horror of the slaughter caused by the American Civil war over slavery left no one with the stomach for another fight. Once again, the pen proved mightier than the sword.

[MarcA]

89. They certainly fought to defend what was theirs in the War of 1812.

This was before there even was a Canadian nation.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

43. Wrong

Canada as a nation is much more tolerant of race and diversity.

"conformity"? CONFORMITY?

When you have a leader of a major party who wears a turban, you can come back to me about "conformity".

The US fought a bloody "civil" war and you want to lecture Canadians that they are TOO NICE to each other?

[customerserviceguy]

46. Maybe conformity was the wrong word

It's more like political correctness. Canada probably didn't invent that, but it's been raised to an art form there. The hate speech laws in Canada would be considered unconstitutional in the United States.

And, hey, let's drag up something from several lifetimes ago. When the US fought it's Civil War, Canada was still happy to be part of the British Empire.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

48. You drag up US Revolution "from several lifetimes ago", but only you are permitted to do so. :eyes:

[customerserviceguy]

50. It is precisely that difference of time

between the establishment of the two nations that is reflected in their attitudes towards free speech. The Peace Arch in Blaine, Washington describes the two countries as "Children from a Common Mother", but they're as different as Cain and Abel in practice.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

58. You forgot "First Amendment" when Rogers was fired. But you also forgot Rogers was fired first. . nt

[customerserviceguy]

59. I'm sorry, I don't get the reference

Which Rogers are you speaking of?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

67. The American fired by Americans. Somebody else pls educate this guy. I have to go to bed, thx. . .nt

[eShirl]

69. ...

[Bernardo de La Paz]

74. Exact same situation. Talented American cartoonist fired for going 'too far' in criticizing tRump.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/cartoonist-fired-critical-trump-theyve-silenced/story?id=55942509

Now, please be consistent and tell us that Americans don't appreciate freedoms enough because they didn't fight Revolutions where millions died like the Russians in 1917-21 and the Chinese in 1931-49.

It will help you know the three main cities of New Brunswick have about the same population as Pittsburgh.

So, please be consistent and dump on all Americans the way you dumped on all Canadians for the actions of one small group of papers.

[pecosbob]

8. I'm saving that...it's a perfect description of the whole administration.

[True Dough]

9. That cartoon

should get the cartoonist a host of job offers. Sadly, however, newspapers are a dying breed and ones that still pay for and print editorial cartoons are very few indeed.

[renate]

10. he was FIRED????

For telling the truth?

[ailsagirl]

25. I know...

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

36. The newspaper didn't think it reflected the truth.

Trump would never use a 5 iron to make that shot.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

40. From one smaller set of newspapers. Many still carry him. . . . nt

[SergeStorms]

83. It's not really the truth though.

Trump would never ask if he could play through. He'd believe he was entitled to do so without a single word being uttered.

[ailsagirl]

90. You got that right

[royable]

11. What a shame.

And I mean that. The manager of the newspaper should be ashamed.

When I saw that cartoon earlier this week, I thought that it was easily the most powerful and effective editorial cartoon I'd seen all year.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

19. The whole purpose behind editorial cartoons

is to make us sit up and think. They put into pictures what editors dare not put into words. The image the cartoonist conveys will be interpreted by the individual, so there are many different ways to view it.

I think this cartoon is perfect. It shows the lack of empathy that trump has for people fleeing murderous tyrants in their homelands, that they are willing to risk anything for a better life. Sadly, this father and his daughter risked and lost. If the US had a reasonable approach to people fleeing terrible situations, the father and his daughter would not have been braving the currents of the Rio Grande, but walking into a well-lit office where they would have sat down and filled out their paperwork and lived.

I am going to share this 'toon with everyone I know.

Shame on you, Canada. You're better than this.

[ailsagirl]

24. Bravo, Haggis for Breakfast

[canuckledragger]

35. Just like in the US

A huge percentage of our media is conservative owned and leaning.

And they don't like it when folks tell plain simple truths like this, especially since they've been waging their own campaign against immigrants, trying to scapegoat them for the country's ills and trying to divert attention away from their own constant failings and fiscal mismanagement.

It's why they refuse to stop lying about the Trudeau/Omar thing, where an underage Canadian citizen was in the wrong place at the wrong time due to his relatives and scapegoated/railroaded by the conservative Harper government and used as propaganda to appeal to the racist conservative base.

Harper's actions against Omar were found illegal, which resulted in the $10 million+ court settlement for Omar...which cons have never stopped lying about and claim Trudeau pays off terrorists.

This is the way the game is played here...and those media outlets that have vested interests in keeping up the bullshit that benefits them punish those that speak simple truths like this.

That being said, I'm going to share the shit out of this and fuck over the assholes than tried to silence the artist.

[oasis]

12. Toon perfectly captures Trump's attitude. nt

[Control-Z]

63. It's funny (not haha funny) but I found the cartoon

to be mild and somewhat generous with regard to the maggot's character. Remember when he shoved the prime minister of Montenegro out of his way to get in front of all the other leaders at the NATO summit in Brussels? I'd expect something more like that from him.

I imagine him shouting, "PLAYING THROUGH" and telling them to get the hell out of his way.

[Little Star]

92. Yep!

[defacto7]

13. Kick

[WePurrsevere]

14. K, R and retweeted. nt

[kimbutgar]

15. The truth is brutal for corporate fascist media

[TheBlackAdder]

16. The cartoonist draws the image, who authorized it to go to press? They should be the one fired.

[Nay]

72. THANK YOU. Was just going to type that myself. His editor and the owner of

the paper always have to approve what goes in their paper -- it's ludicrous for a cartoonist (or a writer, for that matter) to be fired for a cartoon or an article -- it's not like they can "sneak" their work into the newspaper!!!!

[spooky3]

80. I don't think either should have been fired. Nt

[Mersky]

17. WTH?!! Was he fired for his last cartoon that didn't run...

Link to tweet

?s=20

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Because the owner of the Brunswick News is a Koch-level billionaire douche and officer in the Order of Canada?

[luvtheGWN]

21. The Brunswick News is, as de Adder mentions, owned by

the Irving* family -- not quite as oil-rich as the Kochs, but close enough. Although the family has been very philanthropic, they are also very CONservative.

The cartoon for which he was fired is spot-on. Please share it far and wide.

*Google K.C. Irving and Irving Oil.

[Freddie]

101. Donald Sutherland will always be

The Professor (who was bonking Katy) in Animal House.

[Karadeniz]

18. That was the cartoon on that event that I shared...just absurd treatment.

[smirkymonkey]

22. Why? Because it was too honest?

What newspaper was it and why are they protecting Trump?

[ailsagirl]

23. That makes no sense to me-- why should Canada defend dumdum??

[Bernardo de La Paz]

44. Your logic makes no sense. A small group of New Brunswick newspapers is NOT "Canada". . . . nt

[iluvtennis]

26. Great cartoon. I hope he sues for unlawful termination.

[SCantiGOP]

38. No

Hope he gets a better job.

[certainot]

31. come on put some details up front so we know who to blame

who was he/she working for and who did the firing?

any contact info?

[Demovictory9]

34. that all the info i have

[certainot]

37. ta, canadian cartoonist but if it's US media we need to know

[LiberalLovinLug]

32. It was a firing from ALL New Brunswick papers. All owned by J.K. Irving, a multi-billionaire.

Cartoonist Michael de Adder was let go from all newspapers in New Brunswick. His cartoons will no longer appear in the Moncton Times & Transcript, the Fredericton Daily Gleaner and the Saint John Telegraph-Journal.



I think RW newspapers and owners are realizing how powerful a political cartoon can be. Including the conservative execs at the NYT. Its the next ones up in the firing line me thinks. First they came for the cartoonists...

[BobTheSubgenius]

33. I'm pretty upset about it, too.

He would NEVER ask politely. He would just inform someone that he was playing through, if he acknowledged their existence at all.

[Control-Z]

96. Great minds - see post #63 up thread.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=12230140

[OnlinePoker]

39. Here's his Twitter feed

As he says a little down it, technically he wasn't fired because he was only under contract, not employed.

https://twitter.com/deadder

[murielm99]

49. That is one of the most powerful cartoons

I have seen in a long time.

[YOHABLO]

52. I can understand DeAdder being censured, but fired is a bit too much. Reality is a bitter pill.

[RHMerriman]

57. What's truly pathetic is that the papers that dropped him hadn't even run

What's truly pathetic is that the papers that dropped him hadn't even run the cartoon, apparently...

Just cowardly because the same conglomerate that owns the New Brunswick papers has ties to the oil industry.

[YOHABLO]

62. Thanks for that, I should have known. None the less, the cartoon is getting out there.

[RHMerriman]

64. Sure ... there's some coverage on one of the Canadian professional journalist association sites...

Sure ... there's some coverage on one of the Canadian professional journalist association sites...

[hedda_foil]

56. The Orange anus wouldn't be that polite. He'd have his caddie kick them out of his way.

[Maru Kitteh]

60. This toon was MUCH too kind and mild to Trump.

"CAN SOMEBODY GET THIS OUT OF HERE!"

That's a more likely scenario.

[Gothmog]

61. This is a powerful cartoon

[Takket]

65. Would be a shame if all their subscribers canceled over this.

Canada cannot stand the maggot. Can’t imagine the majority of New Brunswickois would be cool with this.

[live love laugh]

66. He should consider himself lucky for not working there. nt

[Sherman A1]

68. K&R

[BlueJac]

70. K&R

[muriel_volestrangler]

71. He's a great cartoonist - both in artistic skill and in conception

Link to tweet

[Dennis Donovan]

99. His work reminds me of Clifford Berryman

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clifford_K._Berryman

[ck4829]

75. K&R

[zentrum]

76. Thought Canada was

....better than this.

Really shocked.

[SylviaD]

77. I'd like to note that this horrific firing happened under Liberal prime minister Justin Trudeau...

...who is quickly showing his true colors as a conservative. He has also just approved a massive oil extraction scheme and pipeline through some extremely delicate ecosystems in British Columbia.

He also fired two women for daring to speak out against his going easy on a huge corporation that was violating canadian law.

He sucks up to Dump continuously, google "trudeau trump handshake". he is a sycophant and basically fooled canadians into voting him into office.

he is as right wing as Stephen Harper, the George W Bush clone he replaced a few years ago.

canada is a mess right now with NO effective center-left opposition at all.

[Pepsidog]

81. Bullshit. It captures Trump's essence perfectly.

[akraven]

82. Saved this and shared everywhere when I first saw it.

The truth hurts, don't it?

[Demovictory9]

87. it's all over the internet now

[akraven]

88. And I hope everyone forwards to their congresscritters,

as well as the White House.

[LessAspin]

84. David Simon with a good take...

Link to tweet

[corbettkroehler]

85. How Can Printing The Truth Be Grounds For Dismissal?

The ombudsman of that paper is a coward with a capital C-O-W!

[nvme]

86. Wow

It is horrific and poignant indictment of where we are these days.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

91. Brutal but honest

[Paladin]

93. He deserves a significant public award for it. (nt)

[Honeycombe8]

94. That's surprising, for Canada. I wonder if the paper is a Trump supporter?

Usually political cartoonists are given wide latitude. Maybe he presented it for approval, which was denied, but he submitted it for publishing anyway?

[SylviaD]

95. It's owned by a Trump supporter, a billionaire named Irving. nt

[ConnorMarc]

97. More political correctness run amok.

That man deserves a medal for this.

[Dennis Donovan]

98. Profound cartoon!

Sad kick and rec.

[ck4829]

100. Kick

[bdamomma]

102. He was only telling

the truth.