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babylonsister

(171,092 posts)
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 01:09 PM Jun 2019

Malcolm Nance Issues Global Wake-Up Call: Trump Is Openly Helping Tyrants End Liberal Democracy

Posted on Sat, Jun 29th, 2019 by Sean Colarossi
Malcolm Nance Issues Global Wake-Up Call: Trump Is Openly Helping Tyrants End Liberal Democracy


Counterterrorism expert Malcolm Nance said on Saturday that Donald Trump’s behavior at the G20 Summit in Japan has made it blatantly clear that he is working to undermine and destroy liberal democracy.

According to Nance, the United States under Trump no longer stands with the 16 ally nations at the G20 that are promoting liberal democracy, as American presidents have done since World War II. Instead, this president is standing with Russia, Saudi Arabia and China.

“Vladimir Putin personally attacked liberal democracy. He said liberal democracy is obsolete,” Nance said. “That is the American democracy that has existed for 244 years. Donald Trump agrees with him and is working to destroy that.”

“These are the threats which we are facing today and Donald Trump is the leader of that threat,” he added.




Nance said:

There are two nations here at play. Actually, I should say two entities. There is the United States of America and then there is Donald Trump, and Donald Trump is a wannabe autocrat. So what you saw at the G20 … was the 17 other nations of the world, plus the three principal organizations in the axis of autocracies. These nations – Russia, Saudi Arabia, the United States technically and China – are all committed to breaking up the balance of power as it’s existed since World War II, as it’s kept Europe relatively safe. That being said, these poles are the last poles that hold up global democracy. The United States has now as an official policy of Donald Trump’s government has abandoned liberal democracy, which was formed in the building right behind me at Independence Hall in Philadelphia. He does not believe it. Vladimir Putin personally attacked liberal democracy. He said liberal democracy is obsolete. That is the American democracy that has existed for 244 years. Donald Trump agrees with him and is working to destroy that. Putin also said it’s the end of multiculturalism. To say it’s the end of multiculturalism is to say it’s the end of the United States of America. These are the threats which we are facing today, and Donald Trump is the leader of that threat. Well, that the not really true. He’s Vladimir Putin’s, you know, puppy but Donald Trump is certainly the leader in the United States on this point.


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Malcolm Nance Issues Global Wake-Up Call: Trump Is Openly Helping Tyrants End Liberal Democracy (Original Post) babylonsister Jun 2019 OP
Now we just have to convince Trumpers that this is true donkeypoofed Jun 2019 #1
many of them (most?) would love a white nationalist dictator Celerity Jun 2019 #3
Fully 25% of this country would allow Donald Trump into their homes... Dave Starsky Jun 2019 #8
Well 26.5% of all eligible voters, voted for DT. 58Sunliner Jun 2019 #15
they wholeheartedly support this direction AlexSFCA Jun 2019 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2019 #40
How about we impeach MF45? watoos Jun 2019 #2
while we dither, the malevolent actors scramble to re-make the world. Grasswire2 Jun 2019 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2019 #26
similar to what Seth Abramson has been documenting. nt Grasswire2 Jun 2019 #4
a re-alignment of the geopolitical order Grasswire2 Jun 2019 #5
AKA New World Order shanti Jun 2019 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2019 #39
republicans pissing on law, order, honesty, integrity, honor, and democracy Achilleaze Jun 2019 #7
Recommended democrank Jun 2019 #10
If only our media (and most Americans) took this seriously. triron Jun 2019 #11
The republican party does ... ***NOT*** ... believe in liberal democracy so this is aligned with uponit7771 Jun 2019 #12
Nance is right cp Jun 2019 #13
"The Plot To Betray America" Haggis for Breakfast Jun 2019 #30
The one objection I had to the debates was lack of outrage regarding Russia. gordianot Jun 2019 #14
Same here. nt Duppers Jun 2019 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2019 #41
Dugin, Gerasimov, Surkov, Putin ... and Trump & MBS The_jackalope Jun 2019 #16
Michael Moore pointed this out a long while back. A HERETIC I AM Jun 2019 #17
KnR Hekate Jun 2019 #18
K & R SunSeeker Jun 2019 #20
Where is Pelosi... BlueJac Jun 2019 #22
Yes where is she?? triron Jun 2019 #25
A damn good question. Magoo48 Jun 2019 #34
Putin and Trump yucking it up about destroying the free press was disturbing to watch. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jun 2019 #23
The Enemy of the People phrase Trump uses is straight out of Joe Stalin's mouth Botany Jun 2019 #28
I keep hearing Publicans saying safeinOhio Jun 2019 #24
k&r n/t lordsummerisle Jun 2019 #27
and they will move toward their goal at any cost regardless defacto7 Jun 2019 #29
Nance is on top of it. He is a true patriot. nt oasis Jun 2019 #31
No Freaking Shite! Cha Jun 2019 #32
Nance needs backers taking this story to the media SleeplessinSoCal Jun 2019 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author orangecrush Jun 2019 #35
Time to stop f*cking around with this asshole orangecrush Jun 2019 #36
Democracy in Chains SMoss Jun 2019 #37
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think Pelosi is waiting for Mueller to testify. YOHABLO Jun 2019 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2019 #42
knr triron Jun 2019 #43

Celerity

(43,527 posts)
3. many of them (most?) would love a white nationalist dictator
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 01:20 PM
Jun 2019

I fully believe 10% (or more) of white Americans would have zero issues (in fact they would actively push for it) with slavery being re-legalised, LGBTQ gender/sexual orientation outlawed, the right of suffrage stripped from all women, and a fundie theocratic dictatorship set up.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
8. Fully 25% of this country would allow Donald Trump into their homes...
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 01:49 PM
Jun 2019

To steal all of their valuables and to rape their wives and daughters while they watched. They would even hold the door open for him and put pictures of the whole thing up on Facebook.

58Sunliner

(4,399 posts)
15. Well 26.5% of all eligible voters, voted for DT.
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 02:25 PM
Jun 2019

The majority of that number were men-@17%, so no, I don't believe it would be that many. And those numbers only hold if there was no changing of the votes. @29% of Latinos who voted, voted for DT, same for Asians, 9% of AA men voted for him as well.

Response to donkeypoofed (Reply #1)

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
2. How about we impeach MF45?
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 01:15 PM
Jun 2019

What the hell are we waiting for? I'm not falling for the sheet that Pelosi doesn't have the votes. Start the impeachment, drag it out, then count the votes.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
6. while we dither, the malevolent actors scramble to re-make the world.
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 01:25 PM
Jun 2019

Do it to stop Kushner, if nothing else!

Response to watoos (Reply #2)

Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #5)

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
7. republicans pissing on law, order, honesty, integrity, honor, and democracy
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 01:30 PM
Jun 2019

repubes got no respect, no honor. They have disgraced themselves for all time.

uponit7771

(90,364 posts)
12. The republican party does ... ***NOT*** ... believe in liberal democracy so this is aligned with
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 02:14 PM
Jun 2019

... their words and deeds over the last 10 years.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
30. "The Plot To Betray America"
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 10:51 PM
Jun 2019

comes out November 12th. This is the newest book by Malcolm Nance. You can pre-order it in Amazon right now.

gordianot

(15,245 posts)
14. The one objection I had to the debates was lack of outrage regarding Russia.
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 02:23 PM
Jun 2019

So a former Russian KGB agent found a greedy broke con man and managed to realize the goal of decades of old Soviet operations to influence American elections. Sorry suckers Ronny did not win the Cold War. Who is headed for the dust bin of history now?

Response to gordianot (Reply #14)

The_jackalope

(1,660 posts)
16. Dugin, Gerasimov, Surkov, Putin ... and Trump & MBS
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 02:28 PM
Jun 2019

Nance is right. We are seeing a multi-faceted attempt at global geopolitical realignment. And it's succeeding.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,378 posts)
17. Michael Moore pointed this out a long while back.
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 02:35 PM
Jun 2019

(Not that I don't appreciate Mr. Nance saying so) but Moore said something to the effect that it should come as no surprise that a man like Trump hates actual democracy. He came from a place where he is the CEO of a privately held company with a very small group of sycophants at the top that do his bidding without question. He had no Board of Directors or shareholders to answer to, so he was in effect, his own autocrat of his own kingdom.

The fact that he readily identifies with dictators and "World Leaders" (in quotes because it is a bullshit term, in my opinion) who hold similar perspectives should come as no surprise at all.

BlueJac

(7,838 posts)
22. Where is Pelosi...
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 03:14 PM
Jun 2019

playing checkers while Trump is destroying our way of life? I saw Trump kissing Putin at the G20, with Putin giving Trump the thumbs up! WTF?

Magoo48

(4,720 posts)
34. A damn good question.
Sun Jun 30, 2019, 07:58 AM
Jun 2019

Pushing my California Senator to impeach is like pissing into the wind tho. It frustrates me when we Dems live up to our labels as reluctant and indecisive.

23. Putin and Trump yucking it up about destroying the free press was disturbing to watch.
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 03:29 PM
Jun 2019

You don't have to impeach a president for what they have done -- you can also impeach them for what they are doing. Trump is a white terrorist who will only be satisfied when he's a dictator for life. He's already "joking" about a third term.

His die-hard supporters see him as leading America to becoming a white Christian nation, as it was meant to be. They are True Believers, and must be treated as the danger to democracy that they are.

safeinOhio

(32,721 posts)
24. I keep hearing Publicans saying
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 03:36 PM
Jun 2019

we are not a Democracy, we are a Republic. I tell them there only 2 types of Republics, Democratic Republics and Banana Republics.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
29. and they will move toward their goal at any cost regardless
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 08:02 PM
Jun 2019

of the consequences to humanity; it's the ends justify the means in its most literal sense.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,145 posts)
33. Nance needs backers taking this story to the media
Sun Jun 30, 2019, 04:21 AM
Jun 2019

His lone voice is ignored by those most needing to hear it.

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orangecrush

(19,620 posts)
36. Time to stop f*cking around with this asshole
Sun Jun 30, 2019, 09:56 AM
Jun 2019

The damage he is doing is incalculable.

Time to take the democratic foot off the brakes and put it into overdrive.

Words do nothing.

SMoss

(112 posts)
37. Democracy in Chains
Sun Jun 30, 2019, 10:10 AM
Jun 2019

The book Democracy in Chains describes the economic and political system supported by th Kick Bros and their dupe tRump. The origin is a group lead by James Bechannan.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
38. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think Pelosi is waiting for Mueller to testify.
Sun Jun 30, 2019, 11:45 AM
Jun 2019

I don't think Mueller's testimony will go any further than the report. It would seem he's dead set on referring to it throughout the hearing.

Response to YOHABLO (Reply #38)

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