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Shanti Mama

(1,288 posts)
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 12:07 PM Jun 2019

Where is the $750/day going?

From FB. Surprised this hasn't already made it's way to DU. Searched but couldn't find it.
I'm so disgusted.
~~~~
From Emily Price:

I decided to do a little research into the $750/day figure I’d heard a private company was charging the US government per each detained migrant child. I wanted to, with my own eyes and brain, 1. verify this figure was accurate; 2. verify it was indeed a private company instead of a non-profit charging this, if true, as both have managed these detention centers (not that it really matters, ultimately, but stay with me); 3. try to figure out where this per diem sum — more than my monthly mortgage — was going, if not to even buy these tortured children toothbrushes and soap, which are about the cheapest basic necessities on the market, and which no individual has to replace every day.

$750/person A DAY should cover a lot of necessities, right? Right. So where the hell is all this money going? This can’t be true...

Well here’s what I found:

1. Yes, it’s a private company called Comprehensive Health Services (a subsidiary of Caliburn International). CHS operates the largest child migrant detention center, which is in FL and was already getting horrible press — especially from local FL papers — last year. But that didn’t matter, because CHS recently opened up a few more child prisons in TX, as it snagged a new government contract, despite many documented concerns about conditions there.

2. $750/day per child is an accurate sum of CHS’s CLAIMED operating costs, and what our federal tax dollars are paying for. A sum that was agreed to upon award of the contract. In fact, it was actually on the record as $775 last summer.

3. So where is this money going, you wonder, if not to soap and toothbrushes? Yeah, I did too, and it was quite easy to dig up. CHS, via Caliburn, is controlled by the private equity firm DC Capital Partners. For those of you who don’t know how private equity firms work, look it up, or ask me in the comments.

4. While I would not be able to find out vested shareholders in the DCCP portfolio, we do not have to assume they’re making some nice returns on these CHS operations and government contracts that line their pockets instead of covering even basic human needs for children. That’s clear, because why would a private company keep their costs down so low that they completely disregard humanity, even though they say they’re experts in “healthcare?”

PROFIT. FOR THEIR PRIVATE INVESTORS.

5. While I can’t name for you the private investors getting rich off of this humanitarian crisis, I can name for you members of the advisory board of DCCP, which approves everything in the portfolio.

First up: Trump’s former Chief of Staff, John Kelly, who was named to the board LAST MONTH, and photographed riding a golf cart into a CHS child prison. So with his own eyes, he saw the conditions there. And he was cool with it all, because hey, there’s money to be made for his rich investor friends, and maybe even himself! Who knows! Can’t say for sure, so feel free to reasonably assume what you wish. I’m just stating facts here.

Coincidentally, prior to joining Trump in the WH, he was also a paid lobbyist for DCCP. Hmmmm...

6. So next up on the DCCP board: Richard L. Armitage, former U.S. deputy secretary of state; Michael Corbin; former ambassador to the United Arab Emirates; Michael V. Hayden, former director of the Central Intelligence Agency and of the National Security Agency; Donald M. Kerr Jr., former deputy director of science and technology at the CIA; Anthony C. Zinni, former commander-in-chief of the U.S. Central Command and former U.S. Envoy to the Middle East; and Stephen F. Loftus, former director of the Office of the Budget for the United States Navy.

Are y’all seeing any patterns here?

7. Michael Hayden, last June, said on the record he sees “commonality” between Nazi Germany’s separation of children at concentration camps and the Trump administration policy that is forcing children to be separated from their parents at the U.S.-Mexico border.

"I know we’re not Nazi Germany, alright. But there is a commonality there, and a fear on my part ... We have standards we have to live up to,” Hayden told CNN’s “New Day.”

It appears he left those standards at the boardroom door, along with many other individuals that dance with greed and corruption on the line of the private and public sectors COMPLETELY UNCHECKED.

8. Last month, the same month Kelly got his new gig, the government awarded CHS a brand new, hush-hush contract worth $341 million, even though there had been tons of pressure to close it due to its conditions.

THERE WAS NO COMPETITIVE BIDDING FOR THE CONTRACT, and it happened under the radar.

9. Just two months before this, in March, CHS/Caliburn cancelled its IPO after registering with the SEC to sell $100m public shares. The CEO cited “market forces,” yet made it clear the company was thriving and growing.

——————

I’ll leave you to come to your own conclusions about all of this, or do more research. And I’ll post a ton of sources in the comments for those who actually think this administration is “draining the swamp,” or who want to debate the semantics of whether these ”centers” can reasonably be called child concentration camps or not without offending some non-brown people.

And for those of you who think children don’t deserve the most basic human rights because they’re not American: There’s a special place in hell for you, and I imagine hell to be a whole lot like this situation.

For those of you who are cool lining the pockets of private citizens in DC with YOUR tax dollars while dirty, hungry, sick children live imprisoned and stacked in cages without even a dime of your money going to pay for soap and toothbrushes for these kids like it was supposed to: I’m ashamed to share this country with you as legal citizens, and I think you’re disgustingly dumb. We failed you, too, but at least you got to go to school when you were a kid, and didn’t spend childhood dying in a cage.

America, NONE OF THIS IS OK. WAKE UP.

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FRIDAY NIGHT UPDATE (!!)

1. As mentioned upon writing this, I originally posted my sources at the beginning of the comments thread at time of publishing -- before it became a large discussion. For your convenience and further reading, I am now moving my sources here + some extra homework for everyone to do (no particular order):

https://www.bloomberg.com/profile/company/CLBR:US
https://www.miamiherald.com/…/immigra…/article229744049.html
https://www.cbsnews.com/…/john-kelly-joins-board-of-calibu…/
https://news.littlesis.org/…/wall-street-banks-former-defe…/
https://thehill.com/…/392727-hayden-sees-commonality-betwee…
https://www.npr.org/…/florida-shelter-is-scrutinized-for-th…
https://www.nytimes.com/…/migrant-shelters-border-crossing.…
https://heavy.com/news/2019/05/caliburn-international/
https://www.thedailybeast.com/doj-is-investigating-whether-
https://thebaffler.com/…/retirement-brought-to-you-by-priso…
https://www.floridatoday.com/…/cape-canaveral-de…/717375002/
https://www.chsmedical.com/compliance

The people have spoken, so hope that helps you all wrap your minds around this in a more complete and credible way. Thank you to all who have participated in civil dialogue and shared this post. Let's keep it constructive, as we do not need to be even more destructive than the current situation.

2. THE POST IS ALREADY PUBLIC + SHAREABLE. Please do not ask me if you can share it -- I made it public, which is why you can see it. You should be able to share the original version. If you can't, refresh your app, run your updates or make sure you aren't still viewing a friend's protected share of the original itself. There is no possible way I can instruct all individuals on how to share it -- but I appreciate all of you who are moved by these words, and want to raise awareness about this distressing situation.

3. Your concern has given me hope. Do your homework. Look into your group investment portfolios, pensions, etc. Know where your money is invested. Call your legislators. Do anything but freak out to the point of being unproductive and histrionic. DO ANYTHING BUT BE AWFUL TO EACH OTHER.

Thank you. We are in this together.

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Where is the $750/day going? (Original Post) Shanti Mama Jun 2019 OP
I Was Wondering Me. Jun 2019 #1
hmmmm Larrybanal Jun 2019 #41
Change May Be A'Coming Me. Jun 2019 #45
It's Going into Private Bank Accounts with No Oversight dlk Jun 2019 #2
And I'm willing to bet... SergeStorms Jun 2019 #20
Kickbacks? Imagine That! dlk Jun 2019 #27
I haven't verified the identity of the author, but it seems legit Shanti Mama Jun 2019 #3
Emily Price, freelance journalist... 2naSalit Jun 2019 #5
thx Shanti Mama Jun 2019 #11
Found Emily Price fb page nghc Jul 2019 #56
Into the pockets of the Trump Crime Family Syndicate. Runningdawg Jun 2019 #4
Exactly, Bingo, watoos Jun 2019 #14
So abducted kids are Trump's biggest block... dchill Jun 2019 #42
freaking republicans and their corporate cronies Achilleaze Jun 2019 #6
Thanks for this post. iluvtennis Jun 2019 #7
This just sickens me beyond belief! smirkymonkey Jun 2019 #8
Yes even rapists and murders get food, showers and beds scarytomcat Jun 2019 #30
Thanks for posting. And they will be getting even more money soon. alwaysinasnit Jun 2019 #9
It's thing like this we need to make common emote the next election. world wide wally Jun 2019 #10
Going to the Military - Intelligence brass and probably a lot of congress critters. LiberalArkie Jun 2019 #12
John Kelly spanone Jun 2019 #13
Kick n rec LiberalLovinLug Jun 2019 #15
They're buying up much of our government intel community. We've got to get back in in 2020. ancianita Jun 2019 #16
COnstruction of our own secret police, Gestapo, whatever you want to call it. pangaia Jun 2019 #34
Hope this is up-to-date and helpful. The names are not just GOP, but from every sector. ancianita Jun 2019 #17
Am I reading this right ? Haggis for Breakfast Jun 2019 #53
All illogical relationships are cemented, however irrationally, by money. ancianita Jun 2019 #54
I'm definitely checking into my pension advisors' investments. ancianita Jun 2019 #18
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2019 #19
Thanks for posting this, Mama. SergeStorms Jun 2019 #21
K & R SunSeeker Jun 2019 #22
A $750 wrench. Mendocino Jun 2019 #23
If it's a private equity firm TheFarseer Jun 2019 #24
Concentration camps uponit7771 Jun 2019 #25
Very interesting, and they must be hiring only Dotard supporters treestar Jun 2019 #26
Richard Armitage was the guy who leaked Valerie Plame's identity hughee99 Jun 2019 #28
All management should be arrested scarytomcat Jun 2019 #29
Absolutely. ancianita Jun 2019 #40
K&R for visibility lunamagica Jun 2019 #31
I sent an e-mail to Rachel Maddow asking TRMS to look into this. patphil Jun 2019 #32
Thank you so much for posting this. I have sent it to all my friends PatrickforO Jun 2019 #33
Gawd, $750 A DAY. forgotmylogin Jun 2019 #35
Comparison pricing Shoonra Jun 2019 #36
You're describing how the American oligarchy works FakeNoose Jun 2019 #37
Awesome research Shanti!! Lotus54 Jun 2019 #38
Thx, but Shanti Mama Jun 2019 #39
Kelly Koncentration Kamps ... brought to you by Трамп-RubleCon Party aka Grumpy Old People. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2019 #43
Thank you for the researched information on details. pazzyanne Jun 2019 #44
Yup, it's as bad as private contracting for a highway bucolic_frolic Jun 2019 #46
Another commercial the Democratic Party written for free. Should be running hourly. kacekwl Jun 2019 #47
Apparently for Tent Camps .... reACTIONary Jun 2019 #48
Looks like it's time to start a new version Kaiserguy Jun 2019 #49
That's twice what I pay at the San Francisco Hilton! RainCaster Jun 2019 #50
DURec leftstreet Jun 2019 #51
Bill Moyers' World of Ideas: Facing Evil citizen blues Jun 2019 #52
I'd like to see this on the front page of all news media. This is what's wrong with this country. YOHABLO Jun 2019 #55

Me.

(35,454 posts)
45. Change May Be A'Coming
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 03:37 PM
Jun 2019

Bank of America, Wayfair, Join those Saying "No" To Profiting From Family Detention

“Bank of America is the third major US bank to pull out of the private prison industry.
Bank of America Corp. — the US’s second largest financial institution and lead lender to CoreCivic — made a milestone announcement this morning that they will stop financing private prison and immigrant detention companies. This follows the lead of JPMorgan Chase and Wells Fargo, who exited the sector earlier this year on the heels of mass public pressure from grassroots activists, shareholders, investors, and political leaders under the rallying call of #FamiliesBelongTogether. “We have decided to exit the relationship’’ said BofA Vice Chairman Anne Finucane in a statement to Bloomberg today. “We’ve done our due diligence that we said we would do at the annual meeting, and this is the decision we’ve made.’’

Beyond financing GEO Group and CoreCivic — the most recognizable names in the private prison game — documents filed in August with the Securities and Exchange Commission demonstrate that Bank of America provided a $380 million loan to Caliburn, as well as a $75 million revolving credit line. You may recognize the name Caliburn from recent headlines; they run the Homestead, Florida detention center under a U.S. government contract that’s making $750 per child detainee, per day.

This decision comes during a week of particularly heightened attention to the migrant crisis at our southern border. Many have winced at the image circulating social media of a Salvadoran father and daughter — 25-year old Oscar Alerto Martinez Ramirez and 2-year old Angie Valeria — who drowned trying to enter the US with hopes of a better life. Exposure of poor conditions in detention centers and the graphic treatment of migrant children has sparked debate and outrage in the US (and beyond) about the ways in which we not only allow — but actually profit from — the suffering of asylum seekers. 70% of immigrant detainees are now held in privately-owned facilities, meaning 70% of immigrant detainees are held in facilities with a clear-as-day financial incentive to lock up as many people as possible.

“With such harrowing statistics, we cannot accept anything less than an end to financing an industry profiting off the pain and suffering of children and families,” stated an official statement by the Families Belong Together Corporate Accountability Coalition. As broken down in previous articles, private prisons rely on big-name bank financing to conduct day to day operations, so BofA’s role as the third “domino” to fall can have significant consequences on the industry's viability. “©2019 Forbes Media LLC. All Rights Reserved.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/morgansimon/2019/06/26/bank-of-america-wayfair-join-those-saying-no-to-profiting-from-family-detention/#433542925620

dlk

(11,578 posts)
2. It's Going into Private Bank Accounts with No Oversight
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 12:10 PM
Jun 2019

That’s the “best” part of the privatization scam-no oversight.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
20. And I'm willing to bet...
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 01:49 PM
Jun 2019

some of it is drifting into Trump's bank account as well. Remember, Trump doesn't take a dump in the morning without getting paid - in some fashion - for all of his "hard work". This is the most corrupt administration in U.S. history.

Shanti Mama

(1,288 posts)
3. I haven't verified the identity of the author, but it seems legit
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 12:12 PM
Jun 2019

If anyone wants to find out who Emily Price is and share the info, I'm all for it.

Runningdawg

(4,522 posts)
4. Into the pockets of the Trump Crime Family Syndicate.
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 12:26 PM
Jun 2019

You didn't really think he raised 24 million in 24 hours did you?

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
14. Exactly, Bingo,
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 01:21 PM
Jun 2019

This corporation gets a no bid contract, how much money did it give Trump for "campaign contributions?"

Taxpayer dollars going to fund concentration camps and funneled into Trump's pocket.

dchill

(38,539 posts)
42. So abducted kids are Trump's biggest block...
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 03:11 PM
Jun 2019

...of campaign contributors? I mean, they've donated their entire stipend. Right?

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
6. freaking republicans and their corporate cronies
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 12:40 PM
Jun 2019

profiteering off misery - there's your stinking republican values.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
8. This just sickens me beyond belief!
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 12:46 PM
Jun 2019

These children are being treated worse than prisoners and a bunch of slimy, grifting republicans are getting rich off of their misery! Arghhhhhh! I just want to scream! Where is the sanity in this world?

world wide wally

(21,755 posts)
10. It's thing like this we need to make common emote the next election.
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 01:11 PM
Jun 2019

Even a lot of MAGATs would open their eyes to this...well, maybe a few

ancianita

(36,137 posts)
16. They're buying up much of our government intel community. We've got to get back in in 2020.
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 01:22 PM
Jun 2019
After buying a raft of sub-contractors of American intelligence agencies, DC Capital Partners is setting up a new holding company devoted to private security.

The American equity firm DC Capital Partners LLC has, in two quick moves, hired a former head of the CIA’s National Clandestine Service, Jose Rodriguez (IOL 579) and snapped up Multi-Threaded Inc., a small group specializing in unstructured data management. Multi-Threaded has been incorporated into the DC Capital holding company that encompasses all of its intelligence assets, the National Interest Security Company (NISC, see graph below).

At the same time, DC Capital is putting together a new holding company specializing in security, training and logistics. Named Elite Training & Security, LLC, its center-piece will be made up by the Kaseman LLC group. A regular supplier of the State Department and Department of Homeland Security, Kaseman furnishes anti-terrorist services and sees to the construction of secure buildings (embassies), notably in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Indonesia and Colombia. DC Capital is planning other acquisitions in the sector and briefly thought of buying out Triple Canopy (IOL 566).

https://blosint.wordpress.com/2008/10/28/from-intelligence-to-private-security-dc-capital-partners/

If this group "supplies" security to our embassies in the above countries -- Thereby surround our intelligence agencies -- we'd better tighten up our oversight of how they "use" our embassies.

https://blosint.wordpress.com/2008/10/28/from-intelligence-to-private-security-dc-capital-partners/

This is not just encroachment, but that actual establishment of fascist government, with our three branches operating in ignorance of how this private network works for its own ends.

Where this $750 per day goes -- this cannot stand.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
34. COnstruction of our own secret police, Gestapo, whatever you want to call it.
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 02:44 PM
Jun 2019


Y'all know what this means, I assume....

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
53. Am I reading this right ?
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 10:38 PM
Jun 2019

Is that General Eric Shinseki (US Army) ???

Weren't members of his family placed in an internment camp ???

Fuck me blind, I no longer understand any of this . . .

Response to Shanti Mama (Original post)

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
21. Thanks for posting this, Mama.
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 01:54 PM
Jun 2019

I was floored when I heard how much they were charging per day as well. On MSNBC they said they could get the children rooms at The Four Seasons for less per day. I just didn't have the time to do all of the investigative work necessary to find all of these facts. I'm glad Ms. Price did. A BIG round of applause for Ms. Price!

TheFarseer

(9,326 posts)
24. If it's a private equity firm
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 02:11 PM
Jun 2019

Then I would guess the same place the sears and toys r us money went- consulting fees and interest paid to some rich douche bag.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
26. Very interesting, and they must be hiring only Dotard supporters
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 02:18 PM
Jun 2019

to work directly with the children, or wouldn't they be asking for more supplies, better food and some of them blowing the whistle?

They must have very little overhead. They can't even keep track of the children or provide them with the basic necessities or halfway decent food.

There are many privatized prisons now, too, wonder what conditions in those are like - probably better than this.

That is an obscene amount of money per child to leave them in the conditions that have been observed.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
28. Richard Armitage was the guy who leaked Valerie Plame's identity
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 02:31 PM
Jun 2019

To the press. Patrick Fitzgerald knew this within days of starting his 2 year investigation into who leaked her identity, but never even brought charges against him.

patphil

(6,212 posts)
32. I sent an e-mail to Rachel Maddow asking TRMS to look into this.
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 02:42 PM
Jun 2019

I think you should all do the same.

Patrick Phillips

PatrickforO

(14,592 posts)
33. Thank you so much for posting this. I have sent it to all my friends
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 02:44 PM
Jun 2019

urging that they share it with as many people as possible, and that they will call their US Senators and Representative daily about this despicable, sociopathic, illegal situation until they have taken concrete steps to 1) give these kids adequate supplies, 2) reunite them with their families, 3) hold the criminals responsible accountable.

forgotmylogin

(7,531 posts)
35. Gawd, $750 A DAY.
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 02:45 PM
Jun 2019

I make $750 a paycheck ( for two weeks) at my job. $750 is more than my monthly rent!

For that kind of money, the government could rent the townhouses in my apartment complex I don't even qualify for and house children there.

You'd think the government would want to process kids out of concrete-floor cages ASAP for that kind of money.

Shoonra

(523 posts)
36. Comparison pricing
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 02:50 PM
Jun 2019

Compared to $750 to have children sleep on the concrete floors, without blankets or soap or showers or clean clothes, I did a little checking and Trivago tells me there are hundreds of places that would put up the kids (and also adults) for as little as $195 a night - and provide them with a bed, with clean sheets and blankets, a shower and soap, and even access to a laundrette to clean their clothes.

Of course, the Federal Prison in Texas would also provide inmates - most, unlike these kids, have committed dreadful crimes - with a bed and blanket, access to shower and soap and also laundry service.

Going back 80 years, the Nazi slave labor camps provided inmates with regular changes of clothes and access to washing up; the Nazis were very attentive to personal hygiene.

FakeNoose

(32,767 posts)
37. You're describing how the American oligarchy works
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 02:50 PM
Jun 2019

Pretty much like the Russian version, but they're trying to keep it secret for a few more years.
Thanks all this hard work, and thanks for reporting.

Lotus54

(44 posts)
38. Awesome research Shanti!!
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 02:51 PM
Jun 2019

This important post should be circulated far and wide. You should also send your important research to the News Editors/Journalists: WAPO, NEW YORK TIMES, HuffPost, MSNBC, CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC.
Thank you so very much for your effort.

Below are some links I've gathered about this company:

https://heavy.com/news/2019/05/caliburn-international/

https://www.axios.com/homestead-private-equity-migrant-children-camps-55512adf-a64c-480e-b516-b6d836f0e2ea.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-kelly-joins-board-of-caliburn-international-company-operating-largest-unaccompanied-migrant-children-shelter/

pazzyanne

(6,557 posts)
44. Thank you for the researched information on details.
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 03:19 PM
Jun 2019

I have been sharing the $775 information and what services are not being provided the children, as well as comparing it to the $82 per day for incarcerated prisoners and what services they get. I have also been throwing in the fact that these children could be put up in a 4 star motel with services that include laundry, a breakfast, and that the money left over could be used for diapers, clothes, additional meals, etc. My blood boils every time I read something about these poor children. An aside question is "Where are the girls?" Every time someone from the administration talks about human trafficking, this question is front and center in my mind. John Kelly and the board of directions can go straight to hell as far as I am concerned. Rant now over.

kacekwl

(7,021 posts)
47. Another commercial the Democratic Party written for free. Should be running hourly.
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 03:50 PM
Jun 2019

Instead we are busy not holding impeachment hearings.

reACTIONary

(5,777 posts)
48. Apparently for Tent Camps ....
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 04:36 PM
Jun 2019

....... Not for permanent detention facilities. Permanent facilities are around 250 A day. Adult detention is aroun 100.

The cost of holding migrant children who have been separated from their parents in newly created “tent cities” is $775 per person per night, according to an official at the Department of Health and Human Services — far higher than the cost of keeping children with their parents in detention centers or holding them in more permanent buildings.

The reason for the high cost, the official and several former officials told NBC News, is that the sudden urgency to bring in security, air conditioning, medical workers and other government contractors far surpasses the cost for structures that are routinely staffed.

It costs $256 per person per night to hold children in permanent HHS facilities like Casa Padre in Brownsville, Texas. And keeping children with their parents in detention centers like the one run by U.S. Customs and Immigration Enforcement in Dilley, Texas cost $298 per resident per night, according to an agency estimate when it awarded the contract for the facility in 2014.

At those prices, the additional cost to operate a 400-bed temporary structure for one month at capacity would be more than $5 million. The average stay for separated kids is nearly two months.

Quoted, with other useful links, in

https://www.truthorfiction.com/does-it-cost-750-a-day-to-house-migrant-children-in-camps/

Kaiserguy

(740 posts)
49. Looks like it's time to start a new version
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 06:49 PM
Jun 2019

of the Nuremberg Trials. These people are guilt of crimes against humanity

RainCaster

(10,916 posts)
50. That's twice what I pay at the San Francisco Hilton!
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 09:01 PM
Jun 2019

And I get soap and a tooth brush and a shower and a bed. Bottled water, and a bunch of other shit. So what moron negotiated this deal? Somebody who doesn't know anything about hotels is my guess.

citizen blues

(570 posts)
52. Bill Moyers' World of Ideas: Facing Evil
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 10:27 PM
Jun 2019

If you have not seen this documentary, watch it!!! This post shook me because of what Raul Hilberg says in that documentary at a conference on evil. Raul Hilberg, author of The Destruction of the European Jew, has long been considered one of the world's leading authoritioes on the Holocaust. Here's a transcript: Facing Evil

In this documentary, Hilberg discusses who perpetrated the Holocaust:



I’ve always believed it was a vast bureaucracy. One cannot destroy a people; it’s not possible without employing all the institutions that a society has...

But who were these initiators, these innovators, these bureaucrats? They were very well-educated. Let me give just three groups: the lawyers, the soldiers, and the physicians...

Oh, yes, who did it? The professionals. Did they know what they were doing? Of course. They thought about it.


Look who's mentioned above on the board:

1. Military – Former Chief of Staff, John Kelly, - Military
2. Lawyer - Richard L. Armitage, former U.S. deputy secretary of state
3. Bureaucrat - Michael Corbin; former ambassador to the United Arab Emirates
4. Military - Michael V. Hayden, former director of the CIA and of the NSA
5. Science - Donald M. Kerr Jr., former deputy director of science & tech. at the CIA
6. Military - Anthony C. Zinni, former commander-in-chief of the U.S. Central Command and former U.S. Envoy to the Middle East
7. Military - Stephen F. Loftus, former director of the Office of the Budget for the US Navy.
8. Health – Comprehencive Health Services

These are professionals purposefully and deliberately weaponizing our institutions.
 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
55. I'd like to see this on the front page of all news media. This is what's wrong with this country.
Sun Jun 30, 2019, 01:33 AM
Jun 2019

The Super connected elite making money off those in need. It's 'disaster capitalism' at it's best!

I don't want to see Hayden's ass on any more news outlets as a hired commentator.

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