Alabama Woman Indicted After Someone Else Shoots Her in the Stomach, Killing Her Unborn Child

[Soph0571]

An Alabama woman who was shot in the stomach, resulting in the death of her unborn child, was indicted on a manslaughter charge by a grand jury. The reason? She started the dispute that led to her getting shot.

Initially, police charged 23-year-old Ebony Jemison for shooting 27-year-old Marshae Jones in December of 2018 outside a Dollar General in Birmingham. But according to AL.com, a police investigation determined that it wasn’t Jemison who was to blame for the shooting—it was Jones, for starting it:

“The investigation showed that the only true victim in this was the unborn baby,’’ Pleasant Grove police Lt. Danny Reid said at the time of the shooting. “It was the mother of the child who initiated and continued the fight which resulted in the death of her own unborn baby.”

Reid added that the fight began over the unborn baby’s father, and that the investigation found that Jamison was defending herself.

[link:https://jezebel.com/alabama-woman-indicted-after-someone-else-shoots-her-in-1835892341|

And so it begins.... where will it stop
She wore high heels and fell over?
She had a glass of wine?
She continued to work?
She continued to drive a car?

etc et al

Effectively if you are pregnant in Alabama wrap yourself in cotton wool, or live in fear...cause you never know. It is outrageous!

[demmiblue]

1. K&R

It is frightening to see what is happening in Alabama.

[rusty quoin]

2. I read of this before...incredible isn't it

[lagomorph777]

17. I was thinking I'd heard this before, then I remembered...

...no, it just sounds like the way it's done in Saudi Arabia.

[obamanut2012]

3. They probably want to do to Ms. Jemison what they did to Emily

in your gif, but this is the closest they can legally come to it. For now.

[EndGOPPropaganda]

4. The Bible says that affecting a fetus isn't murder

The Bible says that killing a pregnant woman is mirdsr.
But causing an abortion is not.
Exodus 21

[ehrnst]

5. Shooting a woman isn't considered manslaughter, but being pregnant while shot is?

Yep, Gilead...

From the local law enforcement:

"Let’s not lose sight that the unborn baby is the victim here,’’ Reid said. “She had no choice in being brought unnecessarily into a fight where she was relying on her mother for protection."

https://www.al.com/news/birmingham/2019/06/woman-indicted-in-shooting-death-of-her-unborn-child-charges-against-shooter-dismissed.html

[Baitball Blogger]

6. Alabama. 'Nuff said.

Florida Man may be known for its idiot moments, but at least those are due to drifting in the stupid lane. Alabama has its own Lexus Lane when it comes to its State's backward movement.

[sarisataka]

7. While this case opens

A bevy of questions related to self defense, that could be an OP on it's own, the root question is: is a fetus a separate entity and does it have rights?

If the answer to that is no, then the fact that she was pregnant/ the fetus was terminated is irrelevant.
If the answer is yes then the question becomes who is responsible, which goes back to the self defense questions

[ehrnst]

8. I wonder if this other woman would have been charged if she survived the shooting

for being involved with a man who had a gun, and would get mad enough to shoot her?

HIGH POINT, N.C. — Police in High Point are investigating a deadly shooting involving a pregnant woman.

Police identified the victim as 21-year-old Tontoria York of High Point. She was 9 months pregnant. Police say her baby did not survive.

During their investigation officers say they determined the shooting was domestic related and charged 20-year-old Hayes with First Degree Murder.

https://www.wfmynews2.com/article/news/local/pregnant-woman-shot-killed-in-high-point-identified-baby-did-not-survive/83-cafdd577-fbec-4458-8216-a2e277b17ac6

[colsohlibgal]

9. Unbelievable

This is stunningly outrageous. It is ridiculous, hope top flight attorneys rush to her aid.

[Blue_Tires]

10. So following that logic

Isn't the child's father criminally liable? After all, there wouldn't have been a confrontation if he wasn't (presumably) two-timing, right??

And since when did "The person who starts the altercation is legally at fault" become a thing?? Years ago countless DUers were more than happy to smugly explain why that couldn't be used against George Fucking Zimmerman...

[Calculating]

11. Alabama is a truly sick state

I really have nothing good to say about it, and I live in Utah (another mentally ill state)

[DLevine]

13. A fetus, not a child. Big difference. nt

[Proud Liberal Dem]

15. So pregnant people are not allowed to start fights now

lest somebody else decides to whip out a gun and shoot them, ending their pregnancy?! Wow. WTF

[Soph0571]

18. Wow

I literally have no words.... actually yes I do

WTF? So someone gets into a verbal and ends up being shot and loses her child and it is her fault? What complete and utter bollocks.

[manhattan123]

14. How can fiction compete?

The writers of The Handmaid's Tale were considering a scenario like this for Season 3, then thought, "Nah, too unrealistic."

[Soph0571]

19. Heh

I think this administration is using the Tale as a Handbook. Suspending the constitution in 2020? I can see that..

[Ilsa]

16. Prosecutors are pissed that they can't blame rape victims

for getting raped anymore. So they've turned the blame on pregnant women for getting shot. I guess the shooter has no responsibility? How fucked up is this?

[Soph0571]

20. According to reports, shooter is not being charged?!?! n/t

[Ilsa]

21. I can't tell. Will they still charge the shooter when

they charge the pregnant woman? How can they blame both sides when they weren't working together to commit a crime?