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NanceGreggs

(27,816 posts)
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 03:09 AM Jun 2019

The Turning Point

Yes, we are a divided nation. Democrats and Republicans disagree on just about everything, from protecting the environment to funding education, from affordable healthcare to a woman’s right to choose.

But when it comes to seeing innocent children kept in cages – sick, filthy, infested with lice, completely traumatized – this should have been the moment when every American citizen, regardless of political affiliation, came together to yell, ”No, not in my country!”

Despite everything we disagree on, this should have been the one thing that united us, even if it was the only thing we might ever agree on ever again. Protecting innocent children from living in totally inhumane conditions should have been the one cause that prompted all Americans to raise their voices in one long, sustained, and unified scream of outrage without any thought of political agendas.

If the Trump-humpers want to defend their pussy-grabbing racist, the man who lies to them repeatedly, the man who brags about assaulting women, the man who insults our allies while he kisses Putin’s ass, that’s their prerogative.

But to ignore the plight of these migrant children in order to support their “pResident’s” tactic of imprisoning children, in order to scare brown people into not coming here, is beyond despicable.

We’ve seen this coming for a while now. We are still a divided nation, but we are no longer divided into Democrats and Republicans, but into people with common decency and those who have none; people who have a moral compass and those who will blindly fall into lockstep behind what is so blatantly immoral, there is no middle ground.

If you can stand with Trump on this issue, if you can defend treating children worse than you would find acceptable for a stray dog, if you can rattle off excuses like “they shouldn’t have come here in the first place – this is their own fault”, if you can sleep at night knowing that frightened, totally innocent children are being abused and emotionally scarred for life, you have abandoned every scrap of humanity you might have ever possessed.

This was indeed the turning point – the point at which any refusal to do the right thing by standing up for what is unquestionably moral and right – marks you forever as being devoid of values, principles, morals, and a soul.

If you call yourself a Christian, if you believe in God, you might look upon all of this as a test – and guess who failed.

The great irony here is that when Hillary described Trump supporters as “deplorable”, it’s turned out to be the most polite thing anyone can say about them.

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The Turning Point (Original Post) NanceGreggs Jun 2019 OP
Well said, thank you. Rhiannon12866 Jun 2019 #1
K & R SunSeeker Jun 2019 #2
you nail it, Nance Skittles Jun 2019 #3
Depraved is a better word. lunatica Jun 2019 #4
This word comes to mind. True Blue American Jun 2019 #5
Sadly, so very true! pazzyanne Jun 2019 #6
I wish you would send this as an opinion piece mnhtnbb Jun 2019 #7
Where we should hammer Republicans is not only on their amoral attitudes, but even more so... KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2019 #8
Brown (especially foreign) lives don't matter to them. Funtatlaguy Jun 2019 #9
"marks you forever as being devoid of values, principles, morals, and a soul" - the truth. erronis Jun 2019 #10
"If you call yourself a Christian, if you believe in God" FiveGoodMen Jun 2019 #11
I used to wonder how it was that I became an atheist while most of my family remained evangelicals. Girard442 Jun 2019 #13
K&R 2naSalit Jun 2019 #12

mnhtnbb

(31,399 posts)
7. I wish you would send this as an opinion piece
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 04:38 AM
Jun 2019

to some newspapers. It deserves a wide audience.

I cut off communication with a number of Trump supporting acquaintances when they patted themselves on the back for being called deplorables. They were proud of the description and proud of their support for the racist, bigoted, misogynistic con man. I don't know whether they've gone quiet yet or turned away from supporting him, but I am sick of seeing, day after day, that what we knew about this mean, cruel, and disgusting man has turned out to be true.

He and members of his staff responsible for the policy of caging children in inhumane conditions--while private companies make money from the process--need to be tried in an international court for crimes against humanity.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,494 posts)
8. Where we should hammer Republicans is not only on their amoral attitudes, but even more so...
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 05:00 AM
Jun 2019

on their lack of courage in presenting viable solutions to our long-standing issues relating both to refugees and immigrants. They have stone-walled even serious discussion on these problems for decades.

I've always suspected that's because wealthy owners of the GOP benefit from the existence of millions of illegal migrants and immigrants in dozens of sectors of our economy. That fact keeps wages and benefits depressed for all Americans, an effect they love.

Therefore, those rich beneficiaries have pushed contradictory dialogues through the years to keep the issue in deadlock - a technique also loved by Putin.

Exactly why they've allowed Trump to swing policy execution to the extreme against immigrants, I do not understand. It may well be they're holding their noses for a while simply to gather in and solidify more xenophobic haters into their fold.

KY.......

erronis

(15,314 posts)
10. "marks you forever as being devoid of values, principles, morals, and a soul" - the truth.
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 10:50 AM
Jun 2019
This was indeed the turning point – the point at which any refusal to do the right thing by standing up for what is unquestionably moral and right – marks you forever as being devoid of values, principles, morals, and a soul.

Fortunately (or not), the (r)epuglicons who have held office in the executive, congress, state government, and elsewhere, are easily identified for the rest of their lives. I hope they enjoy this fleeting moment of false grandeur as their Shit Of State sinks into the immoral abyss.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
11. "If you call yourself a Christian, if you believe in God"
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 04:24 PM
Jun 2019

The people who call themselves Christian (the specific ones that we're addressing here) do not really believe in god.

If they did, they would never dare ignore the warnings directly from Jesus about what mistreating your neighbor will lead to (Matthew 25).

They believe in their fascist preachers and the supposed superiority of themselves and their fellow Nazis.

Girard442

(6,081 posts)
13. I used to wonder how it was that I became an atheist while most of my family remained evangelicals.
Sat Jun 29, 2019, 05:17 PM
Jun 2019

It wasn't until the Age of Trump that I realized that they are just as atheistic as I am.

(They do seem to be really into the idea that people who piss them off will be damned to eternal agony.)

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