Evangelicals go all in for Trump reelection

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

Faith leaders and anti-abortion groups are ramping up their efforts to reelect President Trump, rewarding a president who has become an unlikely hero of the Christian right because of his commitment to socially conservative causes.

The Faith and Freedom Coalition will spend tens of millions of dollars on a voter mobilization effort that aims to register 1 million Christians in key battleground states and reach 30 million people nationwide.

The group, which is led by conservative activist Ralph Reed, will pump literature into more than 100,000 churches across 18 states, primarily focusing on the presidential battlegrounds but also with an eye on contested House and Senate races.

The Susan B. Anthony (SBA) List, an anti-abortion rights group, has a budget of $41 million this campaign cycle to “expose the extremism of Trump’s opponents,” among other initiatives.

SBA List will pay more than 1,000 canvassers in eight battleground states with the aim of knocking on 4 million doors. The group will partner with local churches and anti-abortion groups in states such as North Carolina, Florida, Iowa, Michigan and Arizona to turn out conservative voters for Trump’s reelection.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/449596-evangelicals-go-all-in-for-trump-reelection?userid=229233

And the Lord thy God sayeth "Grab 'em by the pussy"

[RKP5637]

1. No wonder people are leaving religion, it's just a bunch of loony political hacks. They've pretty

much told their Jesus to go to hell.

[jberryhill]

32. Yes, and it's been that way for a while

[hatrack]

40. Not quickly enough . . . .

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[RKP5637]

43. Yep! n/t

[RKP5637]

45. Christianity has taken a decisive turn toward the dark side IMO. n/t

[GeorgeGist]

2. Jesus Wept

[Funtatlaguy]

3. Does anyone have a more punchable face than Ralph Reed

https://www.google.com/search?q=ralph+reed+photo+youtube&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari#imgrc=A2ZfE4QOxlofIM:

[customerserviceguy]

17. Well, for starters

Joel Osteen. He looks like Howdy Doody.

[RKP5637]

44. +++ 1,000 n/t

[jmowreader]

38. Pick anyone in the Trump administration, including the head man

Once we impeach and try the bastard, or at least try him, his sentence needs to be having himself and all his sycophants put into pillories...once there, people can pay $5 to punch a Cabinet member in the mouth, $10 to punch a Senator, $20 to punch Pence and $50 to punch Trump, all proceeds going to paying off the costs this administration ran up.

[Freethinker65]

4. Supporting Anti-Christlike Trump. Complete idiots.

Look, I understand many of the Evangelical leaders supporting Trump. They are in it for power, fame, control, and money (just like Trump)...but one would think some of their followers would realize they are being played for fools.

[trev]

9. Why not? The Pope's doing it.

https://us.blastingnews.com/curiosities/2017/12/pope-francis-proposes-to-change-the-translation-of-lords-prayer-002219185.html

[pnwmom]

15. Think the original texts of the Bible were written in English, Italian, or Latin? Guess again.

The new translation is much more in keeping with the spirit of the original, as well as with the rest of Christian scripture.

[trev]

20. I'm extremely familiar with the history of the Bible.

We don't have any "originals." Modern doctrines didn't even come about until the 4th Century.

Does the Pope speak Greek? Or Aramaic?

[pnwmom]

22. As I said, he has linguistic experts to help him. And he is not changing Jesus's words.

He is changing a particular translation.

The French version of the Lord's Prayer is close to this new English translation.

[trev]

23. He is self-servingly making a verse read the way he wants it to,

contrary to hundreds of years of accepted English translations. (And he doesn't speak English, either.)

If I was in a doctrinal argument with you and did something like that, you'd tell me I was wrong. I'm saying he is wrong.

There are other verses that talk about not falling into temptation. This is not one of them.

[pnwmom]

24. And how much Aramaic and Greek do you speak? Given the site you posted from,

I trust the Pope's advisors more than yours. (And I don't see any evidence that that writer has any knowledge of the languages of the Bible. Her argument is simply that that translation has been used for a long time, so -- regardless of whether it is the most accurate -- it should never be changed.)

[trev]

25. LOL I'm not the one making the translations.

I just grabbed the first source I could find so that I didn't come across as just resting on my own opinion. I think more scholars will weigh in on this as time goes on....

This has been fun, but I think the thread doesn't belong here. My original comment was meant as a response to someone else.

Thanks.

[pnwmom]

33. Well, you used an OP about Evangelicals as an excuse to slam Pope Francis.

You apparently don't realize that there are many Catholics on DU who hate Trump as much as anyone here -- as opposed to Evangelicals who support Trump and the R's by 75% (to 22% for D's).

And the writer you cite has little awareness of how many English translations there have been over the centuries. The second article includes just some of them.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/11/07/how-religious-groups-voted-in-the-midterm-elections/

The 2018 exit polls show a slight shift in Catholic voting patterns compared with recent midterm elections. This year, Catholic voters were evenly split between the parties: 50% favored the Democratic candidate for Congress in their district, while 49% favored the GOP’s nominee. . . .

Among Protestants, 56% voted for Republican congressional candidates and 42% backed Democrats. Among those who identify with faiths other than Christianity and Judaism (including Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus and many others), 73% voted for Democratic congressional candidates while 25% supported Republicans.

http://www.csdirectory.com/biblestudy/lords-prayer.pdf

New English Bible 1961
Our Father in heaven, thy name be hallowed;
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as in heaven.
Give us today our daily bread.
Forgive us the wrong we have done, as we have forgiven those who have wronged us.
And do not bring us to the test, but save us from the evil one.

Good News for Modern Man: Today’s English Version 1966
Our Father in heaven: May your name be kept holy,
May your Kingdom come, May your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us today the food we need;
Forgive us the wrongs that we have done,
As we forgive the wrongs that others have done us;
Do not bring us to hard testing, but keep us safe from the Evil One

New American Bible 1970
Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name,
your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us today our daily bread,
and forgive us the wrong we have done as we forgive those who wrong us.
Subject us not to the trial but deliver us from the evil one.


The New Revised Standard Version 1989
Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name.
Your kingdom come. Your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors.
And do not bring us to the time of trial, but rescue us from the evil one.

[trev]

37. I wasn't attacking anyone on DU.

Don't know how you got that idea. This is why it's so difficult to address religion in this country.

No offense meant. Sorry I mentioned it.

[Leghorn21]

7. ...

[LuvNewcastle]

47. lol!

[trev]

8. Reed's been doing this crap for a long time, since the 80s

when he was in charge of Robertson's Christian Coalition (an organization slapped by the IRS for violating its tax-free status).

[keithbvadu2]

10. Christian leader Jerry Falwell urges Trump support: 'He's a moral person'

Christian leader Jerry Falwell urges Trump support: 'He's a moral person'

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211258390

[keithbvadu2]

11. Jesus not coming back

Jesus not coming back

Those dark skinned folks. Not always welcomed.

[underpants]

30. ✅

Loves me some Jesus leans in memes

[Xolodno]

48. Not to mention....

....they put the instrument of his death on the top of every church.

[Vinca]

14. Of all the nitwits who support Trump, these people are the most puzzling.

All I can figure is they've got themselves convinced he's the second coming . . . which is one hell of a good endorsement for atheism.

[diva77]

16. Is it possible to remove tax-exempt status for any of these groups/coalitions?

[trev]

28. I'm not sure, it depends on the situation

but the IRS did just that to the Christian Coalition in the 1990s.

[Ilsa]

18. I'd love to see folks covertly intercept

their stupid propaganda and leave them dry on it.

[Solly Mack]

19. Demented and warped and proud of it.

Fuck them all.

[dalton99a]

21. President Rapist is their idol.

[Iliyah]

26. Republican party including t-rump is losing

support.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

27. Political Christians.

They care more about their pet social issues - abortion, anti-LGBT laws, guns - than what Jesus actually commanded them to do, like feeding the hungry, welcoming the stranger, caring for the sick, etc. IIRC, he actually said you'd go to Hell if you didn't do those things (Matthew 25), but they still care more about protecting their guns, persecuting LGBT people and immigrants, and depriving women of their reproductive rights (none of which Jesus ever mentioned). So I guess they'll go to Hell, but that doesn't help us much right now.

[underpants]

29. Patriarchy - don't complicate it

pa·tri·arch·y
/ˈpātrēˌärkē/
noun
a system of society or government in which the father or eldest male is head of the family and descent is traced through the male line.
"the thematic relationships of the ballad are worked out according to the conventional archetypes of the patriarchy"
a system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it.
"the dominant ideology of patriarchy"
a society or community organized on patriarchal lines.
plural noun: patriarchies
"we live in a patriarchy"

[llmart]

31. They better not come knocking on my door.

They may get an ear full and it won't be pretty.

[hunter]

34. I've got to wonder what god they are worshiping.

Someone ought to drown it.

[Hassler]

35. I thought Ralph Reed was Lobbying for floating casinos? At least that was his last grift.

[Coventina]

36. Dear Jesus, save me from your followers!

Thanks,

Coventina

[Takket]

39. Would Susan B Anthony really be anti-women's rights?

[DFW]

41. A (VERY) wise man once said:

Mahatma Gandhi — 'I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.'

[Initech]

46. They don't worship Jesus. They worship the old testament god who is a fucking asshole.

So it makes sense that they'd gravitate toward the Dark Side.