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Famed columnist E Jean Carroll claims she was raped by Donald Trump in NYC dressing room, alleging he 'pinned her arms, unzipped his pants and forcibly penetrated her for three minutes'By CHRIS SPARGO FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 13:25 EDT, 21 June 2019 | UPDATED: 13:47 EDT, 21 June 2019
E Jean Carroll claims in her new book What Do We Need Men For? A Modest Proposal, that she was raped by Donald Trump in a dressing room.
The incident allegedly occurred in the fall of 1995 or spring of 1996, and Carroll still has the coat dress she claims to have worn that day
She claims Trump asked her for help with a gift and then allegedly lunged at her in a dressing room before forcibly penetrating her for three minutes
The White House called Carroll's allegations 'a completely false and unrealistic story' meant to make Trump look bad
Trump would have been married to Marla Maples at this time, and Carroll is now the 16th woman to accuse the president of sexual misconduct.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7168035/Famed-columnist-E-Jean-Carroll-claims-raped-Donald-Trump-NYC-dressing-room.html?ico=pushly-notifcation-small
Bayard
(22,100 posts)She has two confirming witnesses. Seems credible.
mopinko
(70,127 posts)mopinko
(70,127 posts)would they have kept his blood from his physical?
oh please let there be semen on that coat.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)Cartoonist
(7,317 posts)This isn't going anywhere. Didn't a judge just dismiss something similar saying it was a political suit?
She now has to hire bodyguards and keep hidden.
Dread Pirate Roberts
(1,896 posts)There's no way Trump maintained an erection for three minutes.
pandr32
(11,588 posts)zackymilly
(2,375 posts)I don't believe it could reach that far while still standing.
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)..." thrusts his penis halfway or completely, Im not certain inside me."
That is actually exactly what you would expect so I believe it. And I am so sorry for making light of sexual assault its just so frustrating that this will slide right off this piece of shit. We already had video tape of him admitting this sort of personal behavior and they elected him anyway.
malaise
(269,054 posts)maddiemom
(5,106 posts)But Carroll said that the INCIDENT lasted about three minutes, not the penetration.
MelissaB
(16,420 posts)Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)eleny
(46,166 posts)Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)The Donald's got different tastes. More like this:
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Oh, and again, just in case,
eleny
(46,166 posts)demigoddess
(6,641 posts)she is advertising board for his manhood.
HelenWheels
(2,284 posts)She shouldn't have bothered with that dress, she looks nude.
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)So, basically, an accurate portrait.
gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)There's nothing wrong with the way she looks now. She used to date Hunter Thompson.
EarnestPutz
(2,120 posts)Fritz Walter
(4,291 posts)Might have been an image of Toad from Mario Kart.
EarnestPutz
(2,120 posts)Fritz Walter
(4,291 posts)...especially this close to dinner hour for much of the country.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Kablooie
(18,634 posts)murielm99
(30,745 posts)RandiFan1290
(6,237 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)Caliman73
(11,738 posts)Women and people in general have ALL kinds of valid reasons for keeping silent about being violated in one of the worst ways imaginable. I had the initial reaction of, "Why didn't she report it?" But quickly caught myself because, as I said, this woman had a career, privacy, her dignity, possibly a family, and other things that she likely felt she needed to protect. Things are a little different now in the era of "me too" but it is still a horrible experience for women who report being sexually assaulted, especially if their abusers are men with power. Trump would be one of the worst because he is such a vile piece of crap who will get deep down in the mud to disparage this woman.
SWBTATTReg
(22,141 posts)supporting the likes of such scumbags...
TommyCelt
(838 posts)I'm numb. And his minions won't care even if the charges are proven.
global1
(25,253 posts)Hmmmmm..... shades of the 'Blue Dress' from Lewinsky's days.
Trueblue Texan
(2,430 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)I think any sort of physical evidence would be questionable over 10 years later. I certainly believe her when she says this, but unless she took steps to not just keep the coat, but properly preserve any sort of evidence, I'm not sure it would be usable in a court.
Captain Stern
(2,201 posts)It's not that I don't think trump would do something like that. I think he would.
I just don't find her credible at all. Her story just sounds made up.
She didn't report it when it happened...she was scared. Fair enough. I understand that.
She didn't say anything about it while trump was running for President (twenty years later). Ok.
She didn't say anything about it after trump became President. Again, OK. She doesn't owe us anything.
But now, it's in her new book. Seriously? It must be true because she still has the same clothes from when it happened! How could she possibly fake having the same clothes from the story she just now told us?!?
In my opinion, anybody that bites on this story is going to be sorry they ever gave it any credibility at all.
pazzyanne
(6,556 posts)BadgerMom
(2,771 posts)I have mine, too. Just because she has a financial motivation does NOT make her story untrue. If this happened to her and shes dealt with this he consequences all these years, good for her for capitalizing on it. Shes not requesting and apparently doesnt need anyone elses approval.
There is no reason any sane woman would bring this kind of examination on herself if it were not true. I dont question why women dont bring this kind of thing up at one point or another. This is personal. It is her story to tell, when, where and how she pleases.
Shes not asking anyone to bite.
UTUSN
(70,711 posts)duforsure
(11,885 posts)To testify in public one by one until others who refuse to come in change and come to speak. They should expose him over and over again showing the pee tape could easily be real showing his lack of morals.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)It's suspicious to have this pop up now. We could have used this story about the time of the Access Hollywood tape.
pazzyanne
(6,556 posts)Trueblue Texan
(2,430 posts)It may take decades or even a lifetime to report, but it is the victim's right to report it publically when he or she so chooses! I believe her!
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)I think it's too late for criminal action.
It's definitely too late for political action. That needed to be claimed in 2015 or 2016. You know...10 or 11 years after it happened.
Not many are going to give this sort of thing any credence. It's suspicious that she's been sitting on this through his campaign in 2015 and 2016, his initial year of horrors, the next two years (with children sleeping on concrete floors in cages), and only now she decides to make this claim? In the runup to a second election?
I give it no weight whatsoever. It doesn't make sense. I would have loved for her to make this claim in early or mid-2016, when it could have made a difference. Around the time of the Access Hollywood tape would have been perfect.
Laffy Kat
(16,383 posts)The SOL has not and will not expire on first-degree rape in NY. Also, she told several women right after it happened and they will attest.
https://www.gothamgazette.com/criminal-justice/1381-state-removes-statute-of-limitations-for-rape-cases
Trueblue Texan
(2,430 posts)...for the victim, whenever and whatever way she/he chooses to disclose it, is immediate enough!
I was very nearly raped by a police officer in the late 70s. I guarantee you if that son-of-a-bitch ever runs for public office, I WILL disclose his identity. At the time it happened, I doubt it would have done any good at all, even if I had been believed. Victims have their own reasons for keeping their mouths shut and they are as varied as the human beings on this planet. Sometimes it's just not worth the risk or the pain to make these things known, especially back then. When the victim feels it's safe and appropriate, it is the right time to disclose. Whether anyone else can make hay of it or not is not the point.
Laffy Kat
(16,383 posts)I was also subjected to police maltreatment as a youth (out past curfew with a boy and police "intervened" . I wasn't raped but definitely humiliated. Naturally, since I was out past curfew I couldn't do anything or report them. I actually felt guilty about it for years.
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)CaptainTruth
(6,594 posts)Funtatlaguy
(10,879 posts)LessAspin
(1,155 posts)Kaleva
(36,312 posts)Sneederbunk
(14,291 posts)RockRaven
(14,974 posts)This is not the first accusation of sexual assault/rape against this monster. I don't anticipate this one will have any effects that the prior ones did not.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)What he has done to these women (and how many more we don't know about) is vile.
Today I was imagining what these women went through, violating their bodies with his hands. I never thought we would see this kind of assault from a president. Even Clinton's bj's, bad and embarrassing as they were, did not reach the level of trump vileness. As a woman, I am sickened and very, very angry...
spanone
(135,844 posts)budkin
(6,703 posts)It's incredibly sad, but it's the Trump world we live in now... aka. "FAKE NEWS!"
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Aussie105
(5,402 posts)When the news broke that Bill had done the dirty with Monica in the Oval Office, I was shocked and horrified. I wanted a strong reaction, to reestablish expected standards.
Now, Trump, another accusation of rape.
My reaction: Probably true, wouldn't surprise me, really.
Has the standard of morality and ethical conduct expected from a President of the US dropped so much?
Have we lowered our standard to that extent?
How low can you go?
And more importantly, who will get those standards back up where they should be?
Trump: Doing damage every day.
JOKE: What's an oxymoron? Answer: A moron wasting normal peoples' oxygen. Such is Trump.
hurple
(1,306 posts)How boring. Can't they come up with something new?
cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)That dress had Trump's DNA on it.