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phantom power

(25,966 posts)
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 10:24 AM Jan 2012

The Nonsense Problem


his indicates, I think, a key problem in these debates. People like Kantoos or Tyler Cowen start from the presumption that when people with the right credentials, like Cochrane, or Jean-Claude Trichet, or Robert Lucas make strong statements, that they must have a defensible model behind their assertions. And so if someone like me or Brad says that there is no such defensible model, we must be engaged in a “rant”, treating these people unfairly.

But sometimes people with impressive credentials do talk complete nonsense — and on fiscal policy in the Lesser Depression, that has been more the rule than the exception.

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I understand that many people find the notion of a world in which Nobel Laureates and ECB presidents declare that 2+2=5 very unappealing, and that they wish we lived in a different and better world. But we don’t — and it’s not my job to create the illusion that we do.

Update: I realized that I also wanted to say something in response to the concern trolling, the “if you were more moderate you’d have more influence” stuff. Again, this amounts to wishing that we lived in a different world. First, there is no such thing in modern America as a pundit respected by both sides. Second, there are people writing about economic issues who are a lot less confrontational than I am; how often do you hear about them? This is not a game, and it is also not a dinner party; you have to be clear and forceful to get heard at all.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/04/the-nonsense-problem/

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The Nonsense Problem (Original Post) phantom power Jan 2012 OP
Repukes are notorious for talking bullshit just to keep their jaws flapping. Sarah Ibarruri Jan 2012 #1
it's also part of the modern "stenography masquerading as reporting" problem... phantom power Jan 2012 #2
Since reality has a well known liberal bias then knowing too much about reality is liberal.. Fumesucker Jan 2012 #3
QED! phantom power Jan 2012 #4
Good One! BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2012 #5

Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
1. Repukes are notorious for talking bullshit just to keep their jaws flapping.
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 10:38 AM
Jan 2012

To begin with, their views are non-supportable, so they have to fluff them up with bullshit. And second, their reps are either scum, or simply not the brightest armadillos in the desert.

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
2. it's also part of the modern "stenography masquerading as reporting" problem...
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 10:49 AM
Jan 2012

where one group of people can spout any amount of bullshit (whether they believe it or not is somewhat irrelevant), and "reporters" will write stories like "Shape of the World -- controversy continues!"

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
3. Since reality has a well known liberal bias then knowing too much about reality is liberal..
Thu Jan 5, 2012, 11:01 AM
Jan 2012

And being liberal wouldn't be very bipartisan, would it?


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