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kentuck

(111,104 posts)
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 09:08 AM Jun 2019

Looking back at the Mueller investigation

Was it two years well spent?

Or did it only prolong the inevitable task of ridding ourselves of an ill-equipped, probably criminal, Commander-in-Chief?

Would the time have been better spent if the Congress had done the investigating? Mueller gave them a couple of years to sit back and do little, in retrospect?

In my opinion, once we get an operating Congress, they should re-examine the "Special Counsel Law".

I don't see a lot of benefit from the Special Counsel Law thus far, although it did take a partisan issue and hide it from the full public for an entire election cycle.

Just my opinion.

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Looking back at the Mueller investigation (Original Post) kentuck Jun 2019 OP
The Republican congress was NOT going to investigate Trump NewJeffCT Jun 2019 #1
"if the Congress had done the investigating" TwilightZone Jun 2019 #2
That is true... kentuck Jun 2019 #4
Who cares what they say? TwilightZone Jun 2019 #5
Perhaps it would be best to just ignore them? kentuck Jun 2019 #6
Standard procedure TwilightZone Jun 2019 #8
Perhaps you are right? kentuck Jun 2019 #10
What kind of investigation do you think Speaker Ryan, Nunes, Goodlatte, and Gowdy would have done? StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #3
We have seen that already. kentuck Jun 2019 #7
And they've been investigating since literally day one. TwilightZone Jun 2019 #9

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
1. The Republican congress was NOT going to investigate Trump
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 09:09 AM
Jun 2019

Mueller was able to interview a lot of people while the information was still fresh in people's minds - Hicks, McGahn, Flynn, etc

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
2. "if the Congress had done the investigating"
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 09:42 AM
Jun 2019

Who do you think was going to investigate? We didn't take the House until January.

kentuck

(111,104 posts)
4. That is true...
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 09:58 AM
Jun 2019

But it was the Trump Republican DOJ that chose Mueller to investigate the matter. He was chosen by Rod Rosenstein, as I recall? Why was he chosen? How much influence did the Democrats have on the appointment of Robert Mueller? Republicans and Democrats alike thought it was the best decision that could be made at the time. No one was more respected than Robert Mueller.

Now, Republicans say the FISA Court was biased. There was no reason to investigate Donald Trump at all. None at all. What brought on this miraculous transformation? They cite the Steele Dossier.

Do they truly believe there was no reason to investigate Donald Trump? They saw nothing that concerned them with the Russian interference of the Trump team working closely with the Russians to defeat Hillary Clinton?

It was all a conspiratorial theory drawn up by the "Deep State". Donald Trump was as pure as the driven snow. It was the FBI, the DOJ, the CIA, the judges, and everyone that disagreed with Donald Trump that was the problem. There was nothing to investigate. Poof! It was all gone!

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
5. Who cares what they say?
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:09 AM
Jun 2019

Your questions seem based on a lot of things that Trump and the Republicans have asserted. History shows that pretty much everything they say is nonsense, deflection, or flat-out lies.

That being the case, I personally presume that everything they say is false and act accordingly. It saves time because I don't spend any time wondering if any of their conclusions are valid or have a basis in reality. They don't.

kentuck

(111,104 posts)
6. Perhaps it would be best to just ignore them?
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:15 AM
Jun 2019

I was attempting to point out their transformation from the beginning of the investigation until now. And how Mueller became the "bad guy"? And how Trump became the victim of the "deep state", falsely attacked by everyone or anyone that dared to question him.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
8. Standard procedure
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:21 AM
Jun 2019

That's how they operate. It's how they've operated for years. I don't really understand why people get so worked up every time the Republicans show themselves to be hypocrites. It happens all the time. It's nothing new.

You can point it out, sure, but we all know this is how they act. It's not worth spending any time being concerned about. It's who they are.

And, we certainly shouldn't base our views of Mueller or the investigation based on what the Republicans say about them. I tend to think the opposite of whatever they say is true.

kentuck

(111,104 posts)
10. Perhaps you are right?
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:24 AM
Jun 2019

Perhaps there is no utilitarian purpose in pointing out the differences in the two Parties? They are what they are. Everybody knows it. They have no need to see it in black and white.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
3. What kind of investigation do you think Speaker Ryan, Nunes, Goodlatte, and Gowdy would have done?
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 09:54 AM
Jun 2019

The two-year Mueller investigation was time very well-spent.

kentuck

(111,104 posts)
7. We have seen that already.
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 10:18 AM
Jun 2019

We can now see the illegitimacy of their "fake" effort to get to the bottom of it.

Democrats have now been in power in the House for about 4 months.

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