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applegrove

(118,682 posts)
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 05:42 PM Jun 2019

GOP Lawmakers In Oregon Leave State

GOP Lawmakers In Oregon Leave State

June 20, 2019 at 1:48 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 109 Comments


https://politicalwire.com/2019/06/20/gop-lawmakers-in-oregon-leave-state/

"SNIP....

“Oregon Republican senators have left the Capitol and scattered in various directions outside the state in order to avoid being rounded up by troopers for a high-profile climate bill vote scheduled today,” the Oregonian reports.

“Democrats hold a supermajority in both chambers of the Oregon Legislature but they still need Republicans to achieve the quorum necessary to conduct business, which is 20 members in the Senate.”

......SNIP"

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GOP Lawmakers In Oregon Leave State (Original Post) applegrove Jun 2019 OP
dems have done the same. it will pass eventually. nt msongs Jun 2019 #1
Dems did that here in Wisconsin years ago. Archae Jun 2019 #6
Yeah! Melt those glaciers! That'll pwn the libs! tanyev Jun 2019 #2
I'm o.k. with them leaving the state. Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll stay gone. WheelWalker Jun 2019 #3
Elections apparently DON'T have consequences gratuitous Jun 2019 #4
cheating favors extinction Hermit-The-Prog Jun 2019 #12
wasnt it the Oklahoma Dems who did that once? samnsara Jun 2019 #5
Legislators from both parties....... WillowTree Jun 2019 #7
I thought Texas did this a few years back... Wounded Bear Jun 2019 #8
Other way around; Texas Democrats went to Oklahoma MagickMuffin Jun 2019 #9
Nope. It was the Texas Dems in 2003. hedda_foil Jun 2019 #10
With luck, they'll never come back. CanonRay Jun 2019 #11
The atmosphere did seem to be more wholesome today snort Jun 2019 #13
COWARDS! sarabelle Jun 2019 #14

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
4. Elections apparently DON'T have consequences
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 05:55 PM
Jun 2019

Republicans really don't want to see "cap and trade" become the law in Oregon. It'll cost jobs. Or cause businesses to leave the state. Or children will get more cavities. Or something.

Let's face it: Businesses pollute and foul the environment. Many of them in small ways that have no lasting impact. But there are some businesses that leave behind a toxic landscape that poisons the land, the air, and the water in horrible, long-lasting ways. In the past, when those businesses eventually petered out (costing jobs and leaving the state, by the way), the waste dumps they left behind had to be cleaned up. But with the business entity dissolved and the owners scattered to the four winds with their profits safely tucked away, the mess has to be paid for by the people left behind.

"Cap and trade" makes those industries pay for their pollution in real time, ameliorating the damage they're doing to the environment, and relieving some of the burden on taxpayers. That's clearly not in keeping with the Republican philosophy of governance which is to privatize the profits while socializing the costs of doing business. So they run to avoid putting that responsibility on their fatcat bankrollers.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,349 posts)
12. cheating favors extinction
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 06:22 PM
Jun 2019

The imbalance pointed out in your post -- privatize profits while socializing costs -- reminded me of this:


Cheating favors extinction, yeast study finds: Feedback between population and evolutionary dynamics

Cooperative behavior is widely observed in nature, but there remains the possibility that 'cheaters' can exploit the system, with uncertain consequences for the social unit as a whole. A new study has found that a yeast colony dominated by non-producers ('cheaters') is more likely to face extinction than one consisting entirely of producers ('co-operators'). The findings are the results of the first laboratory demonstration of a full evolutionary-ecological feedback loop in a social microbial population.

[ ... ]

The researchers found that while a cooperative yeast colony that survives by breaking down sucrose into a communal supply of simple sugars can support a surprisingly high ratio of freeloaders -- upwards of 90 per cent -- a sudden shock to its environment is highly likely to result in catastrophe.

[ ... ]

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130430194259.htm


The system is rigged against the people who do the work in order to enrich the people who manipulate and exploit.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
7. Legislators from both parties.......
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 06:04 PM
Jun 2019

…….have used this tactic in various states from time to time. The most recent I recall was when the exodus of Democrats from Wisconsin to Illinois several years ago.

snort

(2,334 posts)
13. The atmosphere did seem to be more wholesome today
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 06:26 PM
Jun 2019

the Sun was shining brighter and there were songbirds.

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