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A 2-year-old died after accidentally shooting himself at Greenville County home
WYFF 4 Updated: 5:22 PM EDT Jun 20, 2019
GREENVILLE, S.C.
A 2-year-old died in Greenville County after what Lt. Ryan Flood, with the Greenville County Sheriff's Office called an accidental self-inflicted gunshot wound.
Flood said deputies were called just after 1:30 p.m. Thursday to a home on Dronfield Drive about a child who got a gun from inside the home and accidentally shot themself.
When deputies arrived at the scene, they tried to provide medical aid to the child before EMS arrived.
The child died on the way to the hospital, Flood said.
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Kaleva
(36,309 posts)samnsara
(17,622 posts)Kaleva
(36,309 posts)They deserve nothing less.
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)parents who accidentally leave the door open to a cabinet housing a toxic substance.
I do think all gun owners should have to take a gun safety course, but I would not wish this
endless hell on anyone.
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emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)Kaleva
(36,309 posts)emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)These stories just keep coming of children somehow getting their hands on a loaded weapon and shooting themselves or others. If someone's death was truly "punishment enough," it wouldn't happen as often as it does. Maybe if there was a five year minimum sentence attached to this sort of negligence, it might have more of a deterrent effect?
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)but after the felony charge they will lose access to ALL guns, so that such an incident would not happen again.
Charge them with a felony, give them prison time and take their goddamned guns away from them!
Arkansas Granny
(31,518 posts)Ilsa
(61,695 posts)They cry and then say it must have been God's will.
LonePirate
(13,424 posts)3Hotdogs
(12,390 posts)the tools to overcome those challenges.
So if He made you stupid, you just gotta go along with it and do the best you can.
Corinthians: 2-2. Life is like a bowl of chocolates. You never know which one you'se gonna get.
Isiah: 2 Stupid is as gun-humper does.
LonePirate
(13,424 posts)Doreen
(11,686 posts)Support their delusion that guns must remain loaded and ready to fight off intruders with easy access.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I am no gun owner though. Would own one under the most extreme circumstances and even then I would take gun safety training to the hilt.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)had loaded guns lying around the house on chairs and floor and all loaded. He was a testosterone pumped military boy.
3catwoman3
(24,007 posts)COMPLETELY PREVENTABLE by being responsible.
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)I Told him he had to get a gun safe and all guns had to be kept there unless he was using them. We have grandkids and too many kids get killed by "unloaded" guns.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)Arrest the negligent.
aikoaiko
(34,172 posts)These things can happen fast.
When I was a single guy a lady friend came over with her 5-year old son to talk. He was a curious kid and was running around my apartment looking into drawers and boxes. He ran into my room and I heard a drawer open and I had to go running in because I kept a loaded revolver in the end table drawer. He opened a different drawer, but it could have been a disaster.
Now everything is locked up in my house.
Kaleva
(36,309 posts)Maybe you were in the military and had training there. Another possibility is that you took a hunter safety course while a teenager. Here is an excerpt from a Michigan Hunter Education Course:
"Statistics show that more than half of the fatal firearm incidents reported each year occur in the home. Since almost all incidents are caused by carelessness and lack of knowledge, its the hunters duty to help prevent firearm mishaps in the home.
Most importantly, lock guns away where children cant reach them, and store ammunition in a separate location. Check to see that a firearm is unloaded before allowing it in any building or living area."
https://www.hunter-ed.com/michigan/studyGuide/Firearm-Safety-in-the-Home/20102301_700169449/
Caliman73
(11,738 posts)As a firearm owner, this among many other things gun owners do, really infuriates me. Why the hell would you leave a deadly weapon where a child can access it. I mean, I know that there are a number of things that can hurt a child that are left out, but a gun, seriously, a loaded gun? It is an outrage and now that child's life is over. Unless you have the firearm on your person, it should be inaccessible. Lock the damn thing up, put a trigger guard on it, get a biometric safe if you think you need it in a pinch (which in most cases you really don't depending on where you live.
Coventina
(27,121 posts)Sancho
(9,070 posts)This is my generic response to gun threads where people are shot and killed by the dumb or criminal possession of guns. For the record, I grew up in the South and on military bases. I was taught about firearms as a child, and I grew up hunting, was a member of the NRA, and I still own guns. In the 70s, I dropped out of the NRA because they become more radical and less interested in safety and training. Some personal experiences where people I know were involved in shootings caused me to realize that anyone could obtain and posses a gun no matter how illogical it was for them to have a gun. Also, easy access to more powerful guns, guns in the hands of children, and guns that werent secured are out of control in our society. As such, heres what I now think ought to be the requirements to possess a gun. Im not debating the legal language, I just think its the reasonable way to stop the shootings. Notice, none of this restricts the type of guns sold. This is aimed at the people who shoot others, because its clear that they should never have had a gun.
1.) Anyone in possession of a gun (whether they own it or not) should have a regularly renewed license. If you want to call it a permit, certificate, or something else that's fine.
2.) To get a license, you should have a background check, and be examined by a professional for emotional and mental stability appropriate for gun possession. It might be appropriate to require that examination to be accompanied by references from family, friends, employers, etc. This check is not to subject you to a mental health diagnosis, just check on your superficial and apparent gun-worthyness.
3.) To get the license, you should be required to take a safety course and pass a test appropriate to the type of gun you want to use.
4.) To get a license, you should be over 21. Under 21, you could only use a gun under direct supervision of a licensed person and after obtaining a learners license. Your license might be restricted if you have children or criminals or other unsafe people living in your home. (If you want to argue 18 or 25 or some other age, fine. 21 makes sense to me.)
5.) If you possess a gun, you would have to carry a liability insurance policy specifically for gun ownership - and likely you would have to provide proof of appropriate storage, security, and whatever statistical reasons that emerge that would drive the costs and ability to get insurance.
6.) You could not purchase a gun or ammunition without a license, and purchases would have a waiting period.
7.) If you possess a gun without a license, you go to jail, the gun is impounded, and a judge will have to let you go (just like a DUI).
8.) No one should carry an unsecured gun (except in a locked case, unloaded) when outside of home. Guns should be secure when transporting to a shooting event without demonstrating a special need. Their license should indicate training and special carry circumstances beyond recreational shooting (security guard, etc.). If you are carrying your gun while under the influence of drugs or alcohol, you lose your gun and license.
9.) If you buy, sell, give away, or inherit a gun, your license information should be recorded.
10.) If you accidentally discharge your gun, commit a crime, get referred by a mental health professional, are served a restraining order, etc., you should lose your license and guns until reinstated by a serious relicensing process.
Most of you know that a license is no big deal. Besides a drivers license you need a license to fish, operate a boat, or many other activities. I realize these differ by state, but that is not a reason to let anyone without a bit of sense pack a semiautomatic weapon in public, on the roads, and in schools. I think we need to make it much harder for some people to have guns.
keithbvadu2
(36,828 posts)Joe The Plumber: Your Dead Kids Dont Trump My Constitutional Rights To Have Guns
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/27/joe-the-plumber-guns_n_5397981.html
struggle4progress
(118,295 posts)Kaleva
(36,309 posts)"A 2-year-old boy died after he took a gun from his grandmother's purse and accidentally shot himself, authorities said.
Kayden Stuber, a 2-year-old from South Carolina, died Thursday afternoon from a gunshot wound to the head, Kent Dill of the Greenville County Coroner's Office told ABC News.
(MORE: 4-year-old California boy talking a month after accidentally shooting himself in head)
Kayden's grandmother and aunt had been watching him while his parents were at work, Dill said.
"Apparently he went into the grandmother's purse that was sitting on the bed and in some way retrieved, was handling the gun when it discharged," Dill said."
https://abcnews.go.com/US/year-boy-accidentally-shoots-kills-gun-grandmas-purse/story?id=63859180