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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 01:06 PM Jun 2019

Tiedrich tweet; our super-cool media has now spent more time hyperventilating over what @AOC said...



Jeff Tiedrich @itsJeffTiedrich

our super-cool media has now spent more time hyperventilating over what @AOC quite accurately called the camps than they have investigating what's happening to the children disappearing and dying in them. ace fucking job there, you worthless toads

11:14 AM - Jun 20, 2019


Jeff has a way with words!
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Tiedrich tweet; our super-cool media has now spent more time hyperventilating over what @AOC said... (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Jun 2019 OP
Who is this guy? His tweets are all over DU. Claritie Pixie Jun 2019 #1
No clue who he is NewJeffCT Jun 2019 #12
Old Timer kimmylavin Jun 2019 #14
Really??? catchnrelease Jun 2019 #16
Thanks! 👍 Claritie Pixie Jun 2019 #22
I post his tweets because he's very funny and has quite a way with words Dennis Donovan Jun 2019 #21
Complaints from the party that coined the term death panels for the ACA should be ignored now gratuitous Jun 2019 #2
Even Worse Than "Unplug Grandma"! corbettkroehler Jun 2019 #5
This story should LEAD! Pantagruel Jun 2019 #3
So, IOW, the Obama administration was admonished by CA Fed Judge for doing the same thing ... mr_lebowski Jun 2019 #4
Not sure I'm following your line of reasoning gratuitous Jun 2019 #6
Yes! 👍 Duppers Jun 2019 #10
THIS is what our irresponsible media has been doing for decades.... Hulk Jun 2019 #7
Unfortunately, all the good journalists have died. Murrow, Cronkite, Huntley, Brinkley... Dennis Donovan Jun 2019 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author jayschool2013 Jun 2019 #13
They cater to the soap opera crowd. Duppers Jun 2019 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author jayschool2013 Jun 2019 #15
A.frikin.men !! I'm sick of them and the uncritical Duppers Jun 2019 #9
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Jun 2019 #17
sad about the insulting toads, though. BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2019 #18
Always spot on. ECL213 Jun 2019 #19
A profit-oriented media has one obligation. Newsworthy relevance ain't it. LanternWaste Jun 2019 #20

catchnrelease

(1,945 posts)
16. Really???
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 03:22 PM
Jun 2019

Omg, I was just thinking about The Smirking Chimp and Media Horse yesterday, how I wished they were still around. I thought TSM was long gone! Will have to do a search. I've read many of his tweets but didn't connect the name.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. Complaints from the party that coined the term death panels for the ACA should be ignored now
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 01:15 PM
Jun 2019

But the fact that they're so wee-wee'd up about their concentration camps being called concentration camps should give us encouragement that we're not just accurate with the call, but damaging to the Republican brand. Trump doesn't have a lot of approval points to lose, and even low information voters know that concentration camps are bad.

 

Pantagruel

(2,580 posts)
3. This story should LEAD!
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 01:16 PM
Jun 2019

"SAN FRANCISCO (CN) – The Trump administration argued in front of a Ninth Circuit panel Tuesday that the government is not required to give soap or toothbrushes to children apprehended at the U.S.-Mexico border and can have them sleep on concrete floors in frigid, overcrowded cells, despite a settlement agreement that requires detainees be kept in “safe and sanitary” facilities.

All three judges appeared incredulous during the hearing in San Francisco, in which the Trump administration challenged previous legal findings that it is violating a landmark class action settlement by mistreating undocumented immigrant children at U.S. detention facilities.

“You’re really going to stand up and tell us that being able to sleep isn’t a question of safe and sanitary conditions?'” U.S. Circuit Judge Marsha Berzon asked the Justice Department’s Sarah Fabian Tuesday.

U.S. Circuit Judge William Fletcher also questioned the government’s interpretation of the settlement agreement.

“Are you arguing seriously that you do not read the agreement as requiring you to do anything other than what I just described: cold all night long, lights on all night long, sleeping on concrete and you’ve got an aluminum foil blanket?” Fletcher asked Fabian. “I find that inconceivable that the government would say that that is safe and sanitary.”

The settlement at issue came out of Jenny Lisette Flores v. Edwin Meese, filed in 1985 on behalf of a class of unaccompanied minors fleeing torture and abuse in Central America.

Finally agreed upon in 1997, the settlement established guidelines for the humane detention, treatment and release of minors taken into federal immigration custody. The guidelines include the right to a bond hearing and requirements that immigration authorities timely release children to parents or guardians and place those not released in facilities that meet certain standards. The facilities are supposed to be “safe and sanitary.”

The settlement landed back in court in 2015, when class members moved to enforce it following the Obama administration’s announcement that it would scrap bond hearings because they conflicted with newer immigration laws. In legal filings, the class contended the elimination of bond hearings and dirty and dangerous conditions at short-term holding facilities operated by the Border Patrol violated the agreement.

U.S. District Judge Dolly Gee in Los Angeles granted the class’ motion and ordered the appointment of an independent monitor to ensure government compliance with Flores.

Gee said the administration had breached Flores by failing to provide detainees with adequate food and clean drinking water, or with hygiene items like soap, toothbrushes and towels. She also concluded that the children were being deprived of sleep and access to bathrooms, and were subjected to near-freezing temperatures.

The Ninth Circuit affirmed much of Gee’s ruling in July 2017, finding that detainees were still entitled to bond hearings."

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
4. So, IOW, the Obama administration was admonished by CA Fed Judge for doing the same thing ...
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 01:35 PM
Jun 2019

Maybe not the 'lead' we want I'm afraid ...

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
6. Not sure I'm following your line of reasoning
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 01:58 PM
Jun 2019

The Obama administration failed to follow the Flores guidelines, and was ordered to follow them in 2015, which it did. Are you saying that lets the Trump administration and its specious argument off the hook in 2019? Because that doesn't make any sense to me.

If you're saying that the Trump administration's failure to abide by court rulings in 2019 will be excused by his partisans because of the "whatabouts" and "Obama did it too," la dee dah. Trump's partisans make up any argument they want to defend their hero, regardless of facts. Just because other administrations, including Obama's, transgressed court edicts in the past, that doesn't grant the Trump administration carte blanche to do the same. The Trump administration, like its predecessors, has to follow the law.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
7. THIS is what our irresponsible media has been doing for decades....
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 02:16 PM
Jun 2019

Chasing the latest gossip and scandal. News?....ah, fuck that. Investigative journalism....not a chance. But a controversy with louie gohmert jumping on the back of one of his mules makes the news. AOC making a statement that hurts the precious widdle feelings of the "maga idiots" is the top story. The same goes for every other progressive who states the obvious in public.

The media is trash. Ratings whores. "celebrity apprentice" in the news room. Disgusting, nearly every one of them. They appear on The Late Night, sitting next to Colbert, and they actually think they are important. THEY ARE TOOLS...and they are shirking their responsibility to a stable government today.

AOC shouldn't even be carried...on anything but maybe fox propaganda network. But nope....the rest of the cable and major networks are blowing this up to the story of the century. It's just disgusting. I can't even watch that shit anymore.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
8. Unfortunately, all the good journalists have died. Murrow, Cronkite, Huntley, Brinkley...
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 02:21 PM
Jun 2019

I think Dan Rather is the only one left of the Murrow / Cronkite dynasty.

Response to Dennis Donovan (Reply #8)

Response to Hulk (Reply #7)

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
9. A.frikin.men !! I'm sick of them and the uncritical
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 02:24 PM
Jun 2019

zombies eating their crap. I listen to news, scream at my set, and turn off Trump whenever I see or hear a story about him.

I argue with my so-called Democratic, uncritical friends too. Some friendships are hanging on by threads. They need to pay attention and fucking think.

We need to follow BigmanPigman lead and WRITE some letters, emails, tweets. Then make phone calls.



 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
20. A profit-oriented media has one obligation. Newsworthy relevance ain't it.
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 03:44 PM
Jun 2019

The Media Monopoly by Ben Bagdikian (published in '97) accurately predicted this abject abrogation of duty by the media and its consequences.

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