Pelosi must begin Impeachment Hearings

[rainin]

You only need to watch Republican House Judiciary Committee Member Mr. Radcliff to see clearly why Nancy Pelosi's reluctance to begin impeachment hearings will hurt democrats for generations.

Radcliff is laying out the argument that Putin was successful in his intended goal of "dividing the country" as evidenced by the Mueller investigation into a "legitimately elected President of the United States" (my quotes not his). In other words, dems and the corrupt FBI were USED and manipulated by the Russians in a campaign of division.

Since there was no collusion, no obstruction, no conspiracy, it is the democrats who divided the country.

The republicans are winning the argument that trump is innocent.

Lessons from the Mueller Report, Part II: Bipartisan Perspectives

[USALiberal]

1. Nope! She knows more than anyone here! Nt

[Cyrano]

4. Knowing more doesn't mean you're right

Impeachment may (perhaps) tarnish Trump just enough so that the Republicans, the Russians, the electoral college, and the entire embedded system of American voter suppression can't steal the election for him (again).

I respect Nancy. I respect her opinions. But I disagree with her.

Trump's lifelong record of criminality must be put in front of the TV cameras. THAT will make a difference.

If not now, when? If not by the Democrats, who?

[rainin]

5. She is one person who is not infallible.

Have you considered that she is looking for support from the American people before she initiates these hearings? I am speaking out in support because my voice is as important as yours.

[Crunchy Frog]

24. She's Wonder Woman and Einstein all rolled into one.

No mere mortal ought dare question the subtle genius of her choices.

We're all stupid and ignorant and out of the loop, and so must never be so presumptuous as to express opinions which might be construed as "critical", ie. "bashing Democrats".

[we can do it]

2. Do we really need a post stating this every 4 hours???

[rainin]

3. Every 4 hours? Apparently many of us feel this way. This is my first post.

Additionally, this hearing is happening right now. I'm listening to it live. Are you?

[we can do it]

8. I'm working. I have donated multiple times already.

I’ve volunteered 30+ hours a week 3-6 months prior to every election since 2004. I call my MOCs regularly....
Apparently you know more than Speaker Pelosi.

[rainin]

9. When you're not working, check out the recorded hearing.

[we can do it]

10. 🙂

[Wellstone ruled]

6. Two things hanging around D.C.

Debt Ceiling bill has to move,next is the Budget has to be in place by October 1. Sure looking like this might be why the foot dragging?

[Timewas]

7. If it the case

That t-rump cannot be impeached then they may just as well remove that option completely and accept the fact hat the rule of law and the constitution are dead..

[rainin]

11. William Barr framed the report as a declaration of innocence.

Republicans in this hearing are showing how they are developing this theme.

-Putin used Democrats to divide the country.
-Mueller found him innocent and dems are "scrounging the couch cushions" looking for something to attack him with.
-Obama spied on trump to help Hillary Clinton.

Her reluctance to pursue impeachment is allowing Republicans to frame the narrative.

Republicans: Trump is innocent, was always innocent, and dems are desperately trying to weaken him and his presidency.

Yes, the rule of law is dead if we don't impeach right now. Let republicans in the Senate vote against it. That's on them.

[NewJeffCT]

12. A majority of the Democratic caucus is not even in favor of this yet

yes, most of DU and the activist base is strongly in favor of it, but it's up to us to convince Democratic representatives to start impeachment proceedings. However, I've seen pro impeachment counts in the high 60s to mid 70s among Democrats making their views public on impeachment.

I live in the blue state of Connecticut and all five of our House members are Democrats. Yet, not one of them has supported impeachment in public yet.

Until that high 60s to mid 70s number has a 1 in front of it (160s to 170s), I don't see her making the big move

[PufPuf23]

16. The problem now is that the Democratic leadership and Democratic caucas

are not listening to the majority of Democratic voters (who put many in office in 2020 to remedy Trump).

I live in California and my Congress critter, Jared Huffman, is strongly in favor of impeachment proceedings.

Time is being lost. We were told to wait for the conclusion of the Mueller investigation and report (which came to an end which I predicted would happen).

I hear the arguments against impeachment but disagree.

Not acting and with aggression harms the Democratic party (and nation) and is helping Trump and the GOP.

[NewJeffCT]

21. Then contact your senators and have them support impeachment

I know Harris is in favor, but I have not heard about Feinstein yet.

[PufPuf23]

22. My rep, Jared Huffman, favors impeachmnet.

The Case for Impeachment
As presented by North Coast Congressman Jared Huffman

North Coast Congressman Jared Huffman has made no secret of his desire to see the U.S. House of Representatives officially begin impeachment proceedings against President Donald Trump. He's been steadfastly outspoken on the subject. His public statements began largely 140 fiery characters at a time on Twitter before, in February of 2018, Huffman co-sponsored the Articles of Impeachment introduced by Rep. Steve Cohen of Tennessee. But in recent weeks, in the wake of the release of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's report, amid a slowly growing chorus of House Democrats calling for impeachment, Huffman has been making the national media rounds, interviewed by the likes of CNN, Politico and the Huffington Post.

As Congress mulls the historic step, the Journal caught up with Huffman on June 7. Looking to go beyond the tweets, sound bites and pithy quotes, we asked Huffman, a lawyer by trade, to make his case as to why the House should begin impeachment proceedings against the president of the United States. Here's a transcript of our conversation, which has been minimally edited for clarity.

North Coast Journal: To start, we're going to tap into your lawyerly past and ask you to give us a brief opening argument as to why it's time for the House to start impeachment proceedings.

Jared Huffman: The distinction that you just made is an important one — impeachment proceedings as opposed to just going straight to an impeachment vote. It would be a mistake, I think — and I say this even as someone who favors impeachment — to do what the Republicans did in 1998 and simply take a special counsel's report and rush right to the floor for a vote. That would be a disservice to the process, it would look a lot like a partisan power play and it's not going to happen that way.

What I do believe should happen is we should take these disparate inquiries and subpoena battles and investigations, and wrap them into a coherent context for the American people, because the truth is we are looking into the corruption issues and continuing to look at the counter intelligence stuff with Russia and the follow-up on the Mueller report issues and different things because they could potentially lead to impeachment. That is very much the backdrop to all this. I think bringing it into a coherent context as part of an official impeachment inquiry would help people understand that better.

More at: https://www.northcoastjournal.com/humboldt/the-case-for-impeachment/Content?oid=14406632

[cilla4progress]

27. Bingo.

It's wrong (that our MOCs aren't for it yet), but it's a fact, and it's what's causing the holdup.

We can't have impeachment fail in the Dem HOUSE FFS!

[Trumpocalypse]

13. I trust Pelosi's judgement

a lot more than anonymous people on the internet.

[rainin]

14. You're implying there are only two sides: Nancy Pelosi and anonymous people on the internet.

Turn on the TV. Open the paper. Log on the twitter and look for accounts of people who are not anonymous. Actual people who are not Nancy Pelosi also support starting impeachment hearings, including many of our Democratic Presidential candidates and many serving House Representatives and Senators.

Or don't.

[Trumpocalypse]

15. I was commenting on Pelosi

vs the OP.

But as far as the impeachment hawks in the media I trust them even less all they care about is their ratings.

[PufPuf23]

17. That is a silly statement that makes no sense. Open your eyes and ears. nt

[Trumpocalypse]

18. Trusting the judgment

of someone who was elected Speaker twice and has always been right in the past is silly. Belittling the judgment of such a person is silly.

[PufPuf23]

19. One could easily argue that GWB should have been impeached.

Not impeaching GWB is a failure that set a new bar for malfeasance.

Then Speaker Pelosi took "impeachment off the table".

I am a native Californian and was living in Berkeley when Pelosi entered politics. She has always had my support. I have been registered Democratic since aged into vote and with one exception (1980 CA primary voted Anderson to blunt Reagan) have never voted for a candidate that was not Democratic.

Pelosi has not always been "right in the past". No one is always right.

[Trumpocalypse]

20. No she was right about that too.

Back then everyone one here said how that would depress the base and Dems would lose everything in 08. The opposite happened. Pelosi was right.

[rainin]

23. There might have been other reasons we did well in 2008. Just sayin'

Hint: Obama

And standing down when we need our leaders to stand up doesn't sound like the way to turn out voters.

[Trumpocalypse]

25. Yet it didn't depress turnout as predicted

So that argument has been proven false.

[rainin]

28. Turnout is always dismal in the US.

Are we suppressing turnout now? Republicans are aggressive. They attract voters who are loyal. How many voters are turned off by democrats who test the way the wind is blowing before they move? It's weak. It's not leadership. I don't like it and I'm not alone.

I like strong democratic leaders. I'm raising my hand to call on Nancy Pelosi to stand up to trump. Now.

[Trumpocalypse]

32. Yes they have a loyal base

While we play purity politics. Maybe we need to learn that voting is a responsibility and stop insisting to be wooed like a spoiled teenager to go to the prom.

[cilla4progress]

26. And what if it fails in the HOUSE?

???

[rainin]

30. We are passing legislation that will never get a vote in the Senate.

We are distinguishing ourselves as the party who gets stuff done. What if we weren't passing anything because we knew it would fail in the Senate?

Just like with legislation, we vote our values regardless of what the republicans are going to do. The American people will choose whether they want our values or Trumps.

Right now, we look like we're stumbling -- while the republicans get to shape the narrative that the Mueller report exonerated him. Watch how they move the message from total exoneration to attack the investigators. We're stuck because we let the "exoneration" message win.

[budkin]

29. NO BECAUSE IT"LL UPSET HIS BASE!

And we can't have that!

[rainin]

31. Yep. We're acting afraid.

We are losing our momentum and the republicans are winning the argument.