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greymattermom
(5,754 posts)Jackie who? I always liked Rosalynn Carter. Her real name, Eleanor Rosalynn Smith Carter, named after another first lady to remember.
jayschool2013
(2,312 posts)And not named after Eleanor Roosevelt, who became First Lady in 1933.
From the official bio in the First Ladies Library:
ELEANOR ROSALYNN SMITH CARTER
Born:
Plains, Georgia
1927, August 18
Rosalynn Carter was named Eleanor Rosalynn at birth but always used her second name; contrary to some incorrect accounts, she was not named after Eleanor Roosevelt
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)Only known in NY, for the most part.
madaboutharry
(40,212 posts)Jackie would have loved Michelle for just being Michelle.
hearts and love for Michelle.
get the red out
(13,466 posts)She is so classy and beautiful, but seems like the kind of person who would be really fun to be around too. Anyone who is her friend is a lucky person.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,786 posts)Last edited Thu Jun 20, 2019, 10:15 AM - Edit history (1)
And that goes for Melania Trump.
Imaqine the Republican outrage had Michelle Obama done this in her past or been seen wearing this.
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Or had done this....
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Wear a bra or a decent dress why don't you?
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Michelle Obama did not have to do any of these things in her past. She went to College, worked hard at Princeton and Harvard, carved out a career for herself, married a GOOD man, raised 2 great girls, and represented a Nation with the CLASS and DIGNITY Melania Trump sorely lacks. THAT is where the comparison lies, not with Jackie Kennedy.
Farmer-Rick
(10,185 posts)The First Nude Lady should show them around.
Psychopaths have a tendency to marry their sex workers. They don't know what a real relationship is.
NCjack
(10,279 posts)iscooterliberally
(2,860 posts)They sucked his brain out and put the third boob in the newly vacant space between his ears.
Traildogbob
(8,748 posts)He paid we campaign donation. Do MAGA's get to feel em, they bought em?
lpbk2713
(42,759 posts)She'll never be any better than a wannabe.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)would have been caught dead wearing a jacket that read "I really don't care. Do U ?"
Blue_playwright
(1,568 posts)I wonder why she hasnt tried corrective plastic surgery? It literally looks like it hurts to smile.
Wounded Bear
(58,666 posts)Botox tends to destroy nerves and reduce muscle control.
alterfurz
(2,474 posts)...a police sketch of a missing Melania Trump" -- reddit
Mars and Minerva
(369 posts)japple
(9,833 posts)all these years. Just look at THAT hussy.
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Fritz Walter
(4,291 posts)Just like putting lipstick on a pig.
GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)An apparently very expensive cross to show her alleged devotion to a guy who said that if one wanted to follow him, they should first sell everything they own and give it to the poor. (Matthew 9:21, Luke 18:22.)
Chellee
(2,097 posts)tblue37
(65,403 posts)Vinca
(50,278 posts)MadDAsHell
(2,067 posts)Women's choices are women's choices. Your opinion on their dress or body, most especially if it is to shame, are irrelevant.
Sometimes I cant believe I'm on DU.
Butterflylady
(3,544 posts)Along with a beautiful soul.
sop
(10,192 posts)sarge43
(28,941 posts)Submariner
(12,504 posts)plagiarizing prostitute college flunkout without an ounce of class just like her shit for brains husband. The fact that Jacqueline Kennedy's name would even appear in the same paragraph that Melanie pig is an insult to the Kennedy name.
AllaN01Bear
(18,253 posts)Dorn
(523 posts)90% of people alive in the USA today don't know who she was, how about comparing the current lesbian porn star in the Whitehouse to Eleanor Roosevelt. Eleanor wrote newspaper columns and was a delegate to the UN and had many other amazing accomplishments [link:|Eleanor Roosevelt
Aristus
(66,386 posts)I've always liked it.
PatrickforO
(14,576 posts)She was absolutely outstanding and if we did the things she said we should do, with the universal human rights, child care - all the stuff that really matters - we'd be so much better off. Nice pic.
Thekaspervote
(32,777 posts)NNadir
(33,525 posts)The values she espoused define my own view of my party, irrespective of how distant others in this party may have gone from them.
Still.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)You are saying that people alive at that time were so obtuse they don't know who one of the most famous women of the time was.
We might have bought 30-40%.
I don't think 3% could ID that picture of Eleanor. But that does not detract from her accomplishments.
blakstoneranger
(333 posts)To be honest, I would consider it an insult. She was beautiful and well dressed. But all she cared about was her image. And she didn't love her husband. She allowed him to cheat on her. I saw an interview she did way back in the day. She was asked did she love her husband, she said "No". they stopped the interview. They expected her to say "yes". They redid the shot to get the expected response.
Timmygoat
(779 posts)Does Melania have US citizenship? If she does she got it pretty quickly.
MurrayDelph
(5,299 posts)Jackie O did not become Jackie O until after the President died.
redwitch
(14,944 posts)She was accomplished, beautiful, poised and admired the world over, a loving mom. also saved Grand Central Station.
Mars and Minerva
(369 posts)Did you happen to see any videos of her espousing Birther nonsense?
Me.
(35,454 posts)asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)So now tell us what a great human being Melania is!
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)What planet are you from ?
oldsoftie
(12,555 posts)As one of my friends said years ago "I cant believe i let it happen for so long before i got out"
oldsoftie
(12,555 posts)This would have made news in the years since, and i've NEVER heard of it. And i read a LOT of shit.
Iris
(15,659 posts)I see more of a problem with the expectation that she lie.
RobinA
(9,893 posts)a big fan, but as a middle Boomer I found her First Lady style to be archaic, so YMMV. However, I will say that she did a great job raising the kids. They seemed the most normal of the entire Kennedy clan and had the most reason to be totally screwed up.
PatrickforO
(14,576 posts)Ozark Mountain Daredevils aside, Jackie was bigger than life, like her husband, and was a perfect Guinevere to his King Arthur. It was Camelot, after all.
Now it's fucking Survivors.
SayItLoud
(1,702 posts)" I knew Jack Kennedy and you are NO Jack Kennedy"!
friend of m and j
(220 posts)as it was bearing down on him. Quayle was probably better known for that expression than anything he did as Bush's VP.
Senator Lloyd Bentsen, the VP running mate with Michael Dukakis in 1988 was the person who hit Quayle with that zinger during the debate. On the campaign trail he was always questioned about his age (I think 37) and his qualifications to be President if the President died in office. In the debate he was asked that question 3 times but apparently not to the satisfaction of the moderators. He had not brought up JFK's name during the first 3 responses. But many people thought that his posture, and gestures he was trying to reflect a JFK image.
When Tom Brokaw asked the question a 4th time Quayle seemed irritated and said he would try to explain it again. After explaining what steps he would take if forced into the presidency he invoked JFK. He said he "would have more experience in the Congress than many others who sought the Vice Presidency. I have more experience in the Congress than Jack Kennedy had when he sought the Presidency."
That is when he really stuck his foot in it.
Bentsen responded, slowly but firmly ooking at Quayle the whole time, but Quayle just stared straight ahead like the deer staring in fright at the headlights of the car.
"I served with Jack Kennedy," he said, his tone escalating toward steady indignation. "I knew Jack Kennedy. Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy." As the audience loudly applauded he knew Bentsen had just knocked his feet out from under him. That scared deer look tarred him with a perception of being a lightweight and followed him is entire career.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)After Uncle Lloyd leveled little Danny, I thought we were going to need a crowbar to get him talking again.
Marcuse
(7,488 posts)malaise
(269,053 posts)mitch96
(13,912 posts)No shit, I didn't know Jackie posed nude also.... sick..
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redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)And, her husband.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)Cha
(297,299 posts)Mahalo, Siwsan!
And, those promoting birther, plagiarizing melania as Jackie O can just stop trying to sully former First Lady Jackie Kennedy's name.
RainCaster
(10,884 posts)flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)Aussie105
(5,401 posts)She is in her 50's, has had one child, yet looks like she is 22 with the outward appearance of . . . . polished alabaster, or plastic?
Not a wrinkle, not a crow's foot when she squints, perfect skin.
It's un-natural. Too perfect. Scarily so. Like a shop front dummy, you couldn't guess her age just by looking.
Dare I say it? Some surgical intervention there. Major. Hope not paid for by the tax payer, but who knows?
At least the previous first ladies looked natural, realistic, like real people.
Celerity
(43,408 posts)surgery, botox, etc she has had is staggering. Same for daughter-wife Ivanka.
They both are so altered. Trash. All round trash. The entire Trump clan.
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)from my old post
He only served a thousand and thirty-seven days.. a lifetime ago.
SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts)Thu Nov-22-07 09:21 PM
He served less than a thousand and thirty-seven days.. a lifetime ago..and yet
People who never met him, and only learned of him by seeing a picture in Grandma's house, or in a book at school, and people all over the world, knew what he stood for, and admired him then, and still do.
He was young, by the standards of the day, and yes he may have been a "player", but he never embarrassed his country. He served 4 years in wartime, and acquitted himself admirably.
He was rich and could have partied his way through life, but he did not. The life he might have lost in wartime, he still lost in service to his country.
He met with "bad people".. He stared down our enemies, and they blinked. He erred with The Bay of Pigs fiasco, and like a man, he admitted it. He had courage and grace.
He was not petulant and secretive. No doubt he kept secrets, but he was not one to embarrass or belittle people .
He focused our hopes and aspirations, and looked to the future with fearless ambition...ambition to help the world and foster Peace..not to dominate and change regimes.
Millions of young people were inspired to put their lives on hold and venture to the four corners of the earth in the Peace Corps.
He "invented" the space program and within the 10-year goal he set, we had men on the moon..sent with computers with less power than your phone.
The world liked us then. We were the hope of the world. Foreign dignitaries came to the US and were treated with respect and decorum..not hotdogs on the grill at Mom & Dad's house.
Every president since him, has served longer, and yet his legacy is the strongest.
The sad thing is that when he died, hope died with him. His brother tried to regain it for us, but was killed for his efforts.
It's almost as if we are afraid to care too much again for a candidate..any candidate, lest we get our hearts broken again.
People of my age remember when hope was limitless.. we could do anything... and then we couldn't.
We've had presidents who were in office longer, but none of them have retained the interest or admiration of JFK. You can go to any country on earth and mention JFK, and they will nod, in silent understanding ..even if they do not speak English.
Presidents after him have come and gone, and most of the time, it's with a kick in the pants and a "Good Riddance". People can name every building in DC after Reagan, and JFK's administration will still shine brighter than any of those "Thousand points of Light" that Reagan/Bush loved to talk about..
Maybe those Thousand points of light were the days we had Kennedy..and the lights have long since gone out.
Maybe someday we will get another president who can inspire us.. I had one in my lifetime, and I wish the same for my children.
It could be that we just have not yet been introduced to that president.
edited to add.. Maybe we have had our "introduction"..only time will tell