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The best response to the Melania Trump/Jacqueline Kennedy comparison (Original Post) Siwsan Jun 2019 OP
Another response. greymattermom Jun 2019 #1
Rosalynn was born in 1927 jayschool2013 Jun 2019 #25
Eleanor Roosevelt wasn't a well-known public figure in 1927... Dennis Donovan Jun 2019 #40
And no doubt madaboutharry Jun 2019 #2
Exactly get the red out Jun 2019 #3
All the money in Trump world cannot buy CLASS..... ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2019 #4
Hey, Trump paid good money for those. Farmer-Rick Jun 2019 #5
Oh no! Malignant is showing bare shoulders! nt NCjack Jun 2019 #9
Trump got the special! Buy two get one more free! iscooterliberally Jun 2019 #18
💰 Traildogbob Jun 2019 #41
She'll always be a Poseur FLOTUS lpbk2713 Jun 2019 #11
Also, NO First Lady prior Haggis for Breakfast Jun 2019 #53
Her face looks like it hurts... Blue_playwright Jun 2019 #15
I'm pretty sure that is the result of plastic surgery... Wounded Bear Jun 2019 #17
"Melania Trump always looks like... alterfurz Jun 2019 #43
... SMC22307 Jun 2019 #45
Nazi Barbie. nt Mars and Minerva Jun 2019 #19
Oh yeah? What about Mamie Eisenhower's cleavege. I think it has been kept underwraps japple Jun 2019 #47
The rhinestone cross is a nice touch Fritz Walter Jun 2019 #35
Oh, come on! She's wearing a cross around her neck in that first photo! GoCubsGo Jun 2019 #37
Clearly, she sold her underwear. Chellee Jun 2019 #48
Remember how they screamed about Michelle's bars arms, and Hillary's "cleavage": tblue37 Jun 2019 #44
And those are the more modest photos. Vinca Jun 2019 #62
Please stop slut shaming, regardless of the "target." MadDAsHell Jun 2019 #64
Beautiful just beautiful Butterflylady Jun 2019 #6
That's a beautiful portrait of Michelle sop Jun 2019 #32
The unique can not be compared. They are by definition one of a kind. n/t sarge43 Jun 2019 #7
And First Lady Michelle Obama wasn't and isn't a racist birther gold digging Submariner Jun 2019 #8
+1 walkingman Jun 2019 #29
+2 PNW-Dem Jun 2019 #31
not AllaN01Bear Jun 2019 #10
Who is "Jacqueline Kennedy"? Dorn Jun 2019 #12
That's a sweet picture of her. Aristus Jun 2019 #13
Eleanor was, to my mind, the greatest First Lady, and certainly a great human being. PatrickforO Jun 2019 #24
+1000 Thekaspervote Jun 2019 #57
To my mind, the greatest DEMOCRAT of 20th century. NNadir Jun 2019 #67
There is NO WAY that 90% of people aliv today do not know who Jackiie Kennedy Onassis was. alphafemale Jun 2019 #66
Why would you want to be compared to Jacqueline Kennedy Anyway blakstoneranger Jun 2019 #14
I was wondering Timmygoat Jun 2019 #16
They seem to forget one important detail MurrayDelph Jun 2019 #22
Seriously? redwitch Jun 2019 #23
I don't believe a thing you just wrote but..Do you think Melania is a Racist and a Bigot??? Mars and Minerva Jun 2019 #26
Obiously You Don't Know Jackie Kennedy Either Me. Jun 2019 #28
Link please... asiliveandbreathe Jun 2019 #30
Hahahahaha! lunatica Jun 2019 #42
"She allowed him to cheat on her ?" Haggis for Breakfast Jun 2019 #51
Meaning "She didnt leave him". SAme goes for men. oldsoftie Jun 2019 #59
Who did the interview? How did you see it if it was redone? Where? BS? oldsoftie Jun 2019 #60
So what she said she didn't love her husband Iris Jun 2019 #61
I Was Never RobinA Jun 2019 #68
ou-hoo, Jackie Blue. PatrickforO Jun 2019 #20
Dan Quayle heard.... SayItLoud Jun 2019 #21
Vice President Quayle's facial expression was that of a deer looking into a car's headlights... friend of m and j Jun 2019 #50
I remember watching that debate. Haggis for Breakfast Jun 2019 #52
Flooding the market with MT's now devalued photos assures that she won't be stalked like Jackie was Marcuse Jun 2019 #27
This was the best response I've seen- from DUer Hermit-The-Prog malaise Jun 2019 #33
I liked the comment... "Oh, I did not know Melania was a democrat too??" mitch96 Jun 2019 #34
LOVE LOVE THIS! redstatebluegirl Jun 2019 #36
Sweet Jeezus, I miss her! GoCubsGo Jun 2019 #38
Hear! Hear! She is a remarkable human being. k&r n/t Laelth Jun 2019 #39
My Forever First Lady. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2019 #46
Brilliant! Cha Jun 2019 #49
This is all I can think of... RainCaster Jun 2019 #54
THIS says it all...no words needed. flibbitygiblets Jun 2019 #55
K & R SunSeeker Jun 2019 #56
The problem with Melanoma . . . Melanie . . . err . . . Malaria . . .what's her name Aussie105 Jun 2019 #58
She turned 49 a couple months back, and the amount of plastic Celerity Jun 2019 #63
Not even close..my favorite pic of Jackie SoCalDem Jun 2019 #65

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
1. Another response.
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 08:24 AM
Jun 2019

Jackie who? I always liked Rosalynn Carter. Her real name, Eleanor Rosalynn Smith Carter, named after another first lady to remember.

jayschool2013

(2,312 posts)
25. Rosalynn was born in 1927
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 10:54 AM
Jun 2019

And not named after Eleanor Roosevelt, who became First Lady in 1933.

From the official bio in the First Ladies Library:

ELEANOR ROSALYNN SMITH CARTER
Born:
Plains, Georgia
1927, August 18

Rosalynn Carter was named Eleanor Rosalynn at birth but always used her second name; contrary to some incorrect accounts, she was not named after Eleanor Roosevelt

get the red out

(13,466 posts)
3. Exactly
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 08:34 AM
Jun 2019

She is so classy and beautiful, but seems like the kind of person who would be really fun to be around too. Anyone who is her friend is a lucky person.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
4. All the money in Trump world cannot buy CLASS.....
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 08:45 AM
Jun 2019

Last edited Thu Jun 20, 2019, 10:15 AM - Edit history (1)

And that goes for Melania Trump.

Imaqine the Republican outrage had Michelle Obama done this in her past or been seen wearing this.
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Or had done this....
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Wear a bra or a decent dress why don't you?
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Michelle Obama did not have to do any of these things in her past. She went to College, worked hard at Princeton and Harvard, carved out a career for herself, married a GOOD man, raised 2 great girls, and represented a Nation with the CLASS and DIGNITY Melania Trump sorely lacks. THAT is where the comparison lies, not with Jackie Kennedy.

Farmer-Rick

(10,185 posts)
5. Hey, Trump paid good money for those.
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 08:55 AM
Jun 2019

The First Nude Lady should show them around.

Psychopaths have a tendency to marry their sex workers. They don't know what a real relationship is.

iscooterliberally

(2,860 posts)
18. Trump got the special! Buy two get one more free!
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 10:41 AM
Jun 2019

They sucked his brain out and put the third boob in the newly vacant space between his ears.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
53. Also, NO First Lady prior
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 11:14 PM
Jun 2019

would have been caught dead wearing a jacket that read "I really don't care. Do U ?"

Blue_playwright

(1,568 posts)
15. Her face looks like it hurts...
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 10:24 AM
Jun 2019

I wonder why she hasn’t tried corrective plastic surgery? It literally looks like it hurts to smile.

Wounded Bear

(58,666 posts)
17. I'm pretty sure that is the result of plastic surgery...
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 10:33 AM
Jun 2019

Botox tends to destroy nerves and reduce muscle control.

japple

(9,833 posts)
47. Oh yeah? What about Mamie Eisenhower's cleavege. I think it has been kept underwraps
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 05:45 PM
Jun 2019

all these years. Just look at THAT hussy.


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GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
37. Oh, come on! She's wearing a cross around her neck in that first photo!
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 12:06 PM
Jun 2019

An apparently very expensive cross to show her alleged devotion to a guy who said that if one wanted to follow him, they should first sell everything they own and give it to the poor. (Matthew 9:21, Luke 18:22.)

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
64. Please stop slut shaming, regardless of the "target."
Wed Jun 26, 2019, 11:57 PM
Jun 2019

Women's choices are women's choices. Your opinion on their dress or body, most especially if it is to shame, are irrelevant.

Sometimes I cant believe I'm on DU.

Submariner

(12,504 posts)
8. And First Lady Michelle Obama wasn't and isn't a racist birther gold digging
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 09:10 AM
Jun 2019

plagiarizing prostitute college flunkout without an ounce of class just like her shit for brains husband. The fact that Jacqueline Kennedy's name would even appear in the same paragraph that Melanie pig is an insult to the Kennedy name.

Dorn

(523 posts)
12. Who is "Jacqueline Kennedy"?
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 10:09 AM
Jun 2019

90% of people alive in the USA today don't know who she was, how about comparing the current lesbian porn star in the Whitehouse to Eleanor Roosevelt. Eleanor wrote newspaper columns and was a delegate to the UN and had many other amazing accomplishments [link:|Eleanor Roosevelt

PatrickforO

(14,576 posts)
24. Eleanor was, to my mind, the greatest First Lady, and certainly a great human being.
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 10:53 AM
Jun 2019

She was absolutely outstanding and if we did the things she said we should do, with the universal human rights, child care - all the stuff that really matters - we'd be so much better off. Nice pic.

NNadir

(33,525 posts)
67. To my mind, the greatest DEMOCRAT of 20th century.
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 10:19 AM
Jun 2019

The values she espoused define my own view of my party, irrespective of how distant others in this party may have gone from them.

Still.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
66. There is NO WAY that 90% of people aliv today do not know who Jackiie Kennedy Onassis was.
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 06:03 AM
Jun 2019

You are saying that people alive at that time were so obtuse they don't know who one of the most famous women of the time was.

We might have bought 30-40%.

I don't think 3% could ID that picture of Eleanor. But that does not detract from her accomplishments.

 

blakstoneranger

(333 posts)
14. Why would you want to be compared to Jacqueline Kennedy Anyway
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 10:24 AM
Jun 2019

To be honest, I would consider it an insult. She was beautiful and well dressed. But all she cared about was her image. And she didn't love her husband. She allowed him to cheat on her. I saw an interview she did way back in the day. She was asked did she love her husband, she said "No". they stopped the interview. They expected her to say "yes". They redid the shot to get the expected response.

MurrayDelph

(5,299 posts)
22. They seem to forget one important detail
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 10:53 AM
Jun 2019

Jackie O did not become Jackie O until after the President died.

redwitch

(14,944 posts)
23. Seriously?
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 10:53 AM
Jun 2019

She was accomplished, beautiful, poised and admired the world over, a loving mom. also saved Grand Central Station.

Mars and Minerva

(369 posts)
26. I don't believe a thing you just wrote but..Do you think Melania is a Racist and a Bigot???
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 10:56 AM
Jun 2019

Did you happen to see any videos of her espousing Birther nonsense?

oldsoftie

(12,555 posts)
59. Meaning "She didnt leave him". SAme goes for men.
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 06:20 AM
Jun 2019

As one of my friends said years ago "I cant believe i let it happen for so long before i got out"

oldsoftie

(12,555 posts)
60. Who did the interview? How did you see it if it was redone? Where? BS?
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 06:23 AM
Jun 2019

This would have made news in the years since, and i've NEVER heard of it. And i read a LOT of shit.

Iris

(15,659 posts)
61. So what she said she didn't love her husband
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 07:23 AM
Jun 2019

I see more of a problem with the expectation that she lie.

RobinA

(9,893 posts)
68. I Was Never
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 01:09 PM
Jun 2019

a big fan, but as a middle Boomer I found her First Lady style to be archaic, so YMMV. However, I will say that she did a great job raising the kids. They seemed the most normal of the entire Kennedy clan and had the most reason to be totally screwed up.

PatrickforO

(14,576 posts)
20. ou-hoo, Jackie Blue.
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 10:50 AM
Jun 2019

Ozark Mountain Daredevils aside, Jackie was bigger than life, like her husband, and was a perfect Guinevere to his King Arthur. It was Camelot, after all.

Now it's fucking Survivors.

friend of m and j

(220 posts)
50. Vice President Quayle's facial expression was that of a deer looking into a car's headlights...
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 11:05 PM
Jun 2019

as it was bearing down on him. Quayle was probably better known for that expression than anything he did as Bush's VP.

Senator Lloyd Bentsen, the VP running mate with Michael Dukakis in 1988 was the person who hit Quayle with that zinger during the debate. On the campaign trail he was always questioned about his age (I think 37) and his qualifications to be President if the President died in office. In the debate he was asked that question 3 times but apparently not to the satisfaction of the moderators. He had not brought up JFK's name during the first 3 responses. But many people thought that his posture, and gestures he was trying to reflect a JFK image.

When Tom Brokaw asked the question a 4th time Quayle seemed irritated and said he would try to explain it again. After explaining what steps he would take if forced into the presidency he invoked JFK. He said he "would have more experience in the Congress than many others who sought the Vice Presidency. I have more experience in the Congress than Jack Kennedy had when he sought the Presidency."

That is when he really stuck his foot in it.

Bentsen responded, slowly but firmly ooking at Quayle the whole time, but Quayle just stared straight ahead like the deer staring in fright at the headlights of the car.

"I served with Jack Kennedy," he said, his tone escalating toward steady indignation. "I knew Jack Kennedy. Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy." As the audience loudly applauded he knew Bentsen had just knocked his feet out from under him. That scared deer look tarred him with a perception of being a lightweight and followed him is entire career.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
52. I remember watching that debate.
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 11:10 PM
Jun 2019

After Uncle Lloyd leveled little Danny, I thought we were going to need a crowbar to get him talking again.

Marcuse

(7,488 posts)
27. Flooding the market with MT's now devalued photos assures that she won't be stalked like Jackie was
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 10:56 AM
Jun 2019

mitch96

(13,912 posts)
34. I liked the comment... "Oh, I did not know Melania was a democrat too??"
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 11:29 AM
Jun 2019

No shit, I didn't know Jackie posed nude also.... sick..
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Cha

(297,299 posts)
49. Brilliant!
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 10:46 PM
Jun 2019

Mahalo, Siwsan!

And, those promoting birther, plagiarizing melania as Jackie O can just stop trying to sully former First Lady Jackie Kennedy's name.

Aussie105

(5,401 posts)
58. The problem with Melanoma . . . Melanie . . . err . . . Malaria . . .what's her name
Fri Jun 21, 2019, 05:29 AM
Jun 2019

She is in her 50's, has had one child, yet looks like she is 22 with the outward appearance of . . . . polished alabaster, or plastic?

Not a wrinkle, not a crow's foot when she squints, perfect skin.

It's un-natural. Too perfect. Scarily so. Like a shop front dummy, you couldn't guess her age just by looking.

Dare I say it? Some surgical intervention there. Major. Hope not paid for by the tax payer, but who knows?

At least the previous first ladies looked natural, realistic, like real people.



Celerity

(43,408 posts)
63. She turned 49 a couple months back, and the amount of plastic
Tue Jun 25, 2019, 09:08 AM
Jun 2019

surgery, botox, etc she has had is staggering. Same for daughter-wife Ivanka.

They both are so altered. Trash. All round trash. The entire Trump clan.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
65. Not even close..my favorite pic of Jackie
Thu Jun 27, 2019, 05:02 AM
Jun 2019


from my old post

He only served a thousand and thirty-seven days.. a lifetime ago.
SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts)Thu Nov-22-07 09:21 PM


He served less than a thousand and thirty-seven days.. a lifetime ago..and yet



People who never met him, and only learned of him by seeing a picture in Grandma's house, or in a book at school, and people all over the world, knew what he stood for, and admired him then, and still do.

He was young, by the standards of the day, and yes he may have been a "player", but he never embarrassed his country. He served 4 years in wartime, and acquitted himself admirably.

He was rich and could have partied his way through life, but he did not. The life he might have lost in wartime, he still lost in service to his country.

He met with "bad people".. He stared down our enemies, and they blinked. He erred with The Bay of Pigs fiasco, and like a man, he admitted it. He had courage and grace.

He was not petulant and secretive. No doubt he kept secrets, but he was not one to embarrass or belittle people .

He focused our hopes and aspirations, and looked to the future with fearless ambition...ambition to help the world and foster Peace..not to dominate and change regimes.

Millions of young people were inspired to put their lives on hold and venture to the four corners of the earth in the Peace Corps.

He "invented" the space program and within the 10-year goal he set, we had men on the moon..sent with computers with less power than your phone.

The world liked us then. We were the hope of the world. Foreign dignitaries came to the US and were treated with respect and decorum..not hotdogs on the grill at Mom & Dad's house.

Every president since him, has served longer, and yet his legacy is the strongest.

The sad thing is that when he died, hope died with him. His brother tried to regain it for us, but was killed for his efforts.

It's almost as if we are afraid to care too much again for a candidate..any candidate, lest we get our hearts broken again.

People of my age remember when hope was limitless.. we could do anything... and then we couldn't.


We've had presidents who were in office longer, but none of them have retained the interest or admiration of JFK. You can go to any country on earth and mention JFK, and they will nod, in silent understanding ..even if they do not speak English.

Presidents after him have come and gone, and most of the time, it's with a kick in the pants and a "Good Riddance". People can name every building in DC after Reagan, and JFK's administration will still shine brighter than any of those "Thousand points of Light" that Reagan/Bush loved to talk about..

Maybe those Thousand points of light were the days we had Kennedy..and the lights have long since gone out.

Maybe someday we will get another president who can inspire us.. I had one in my lifetime, and I wish the same for my children.

It could be that we just have not yet been introduced to that president.


edited to add.. Maybe we have had our "introduction"..only time will tell
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