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UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 06:09 AM Jun 2019

'It's just insane': MSNBC's Rachel Maddow breaks down the Trump administration's latest Russia scand

‘It’s just insane’: MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow breaks down the Trump administration’s latest Russia scandal

On Wednesday, MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow delved into the latest stunning revelations surrounding Maria Butina, the admitted Russian agent at the heart of a plot to infiltrate the National Rifle Association and the Republican Party — and the connections to a high-ranking State Department official in charge of arms negotiations with Russia.

“Josh Rogin at the Washington Post reports tonight that Maria Butina also turned up at the wedding of Mike Pence’s national security adviser,” said Maddow. “Mike Pence’s national security adviser, Andrea Thompson, got married that summer of 2017, first summer of the Trump Administration. She’s got that awesome new job. Getting married and Maria Butina was at the wedding. Why was she at the wedding? U.S. Person One, her boyfriend, Paul Erickson, was officiating the wedding. Oh. It also turns out that the man who Mike Pence’s national security adviser, the man who Andrea Thompson was marrying at the wedding that day, he had recently given Paul Erickson $100,000.”

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“You want to know what you do when you have that job?” Maddow added. “You negotiate with Russia. You negotiate with the Russians on arms control treaties. That’s your job … when the person who marries you gets into trouble with the Russians, and your job is to negotiate with the Russians, you have to disclose that. Everybody within an intelligence clearance knows that.”




https://www.rawstory.com/2019/06/its-just-insane-msnbcs-rachel-maddow-breaks-down-the-trump-administrations-latest-russia-scandal/

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'It's just insane': MSNBC's Rachel Maddow breaks down the Trump administration's latest Russia scand (Original Post) UCmeNdc Jun 2019 OP
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Jun 2019 #1
KnR...nt N_E_1 for Tennis Jun 2019 #2
K&R Scurrilous Jun 2019 #3
"Scandal" is way too inadequate a word to describe MBS Jun 2019 #4
Butina is the pinup girl/mole for KGOP republicans Achilleaze Jun 2019 #5
Overwhelming get the red out Jun 2019 #6
So, did Mueller know this? Farmer-Rick Jun 2019 #7
I posted about this yesterday evening. triron Jun 2019 #16
Just ANOTHER coincidence. Wait for it, wait for it.... NoMoreRepugs Jun 2019 #8
This "thing" is bigger than anyone of us could imagine Botany Jun 2019 #9
I wonder whether we're ever going to know half of the crap that's going on renate Jun 2019 #14
I think the big thing will not be the Russian/international mob/republican help in the rat ... Botany Jun 2019 #15
That is chilling renate Jun 2019 #17
The Russians even left their "calling cards" in Wisconsin Botany Jun 2019 #18
That's why I believe Kitchari Jun 2019 #23
Another outrage in the long list of outrages. What can we do? jalan48 Jun 2019 #10
We have 2 choices watoos Jun 2019 #13
It's sad Cetacea Jun 2019 #25
Like a permaswamp. Kid Berwyn Jun 2019 #11
Rachel summarizes reporting done by the Washington Post jayschool2013 Jun 2019 #12
kick for visibility triron Jun 2019 #19
K & R for visibility .... n/t MFGsunny Jun 2019 #20
K & R FakeNoose Jun 2019 #21
knr triron Jun 2019 #22
K&R. dchill Jun 2019 #24
kick for visibility triron Jun 2019 #26
knr triron Jun 2019 #27

MBS

(9,688 posts)
4. "Scandal" is way too inadequate a word to describe
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 06:43 AM
Jun 2019

the depth and gravity and depravity of Republican betrayal of our country. Please, make this STOP
Thank you, Rachel, for staying on this.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
5. Butina is the pinup girl/mole for KGOP republicans
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 06:52 AM
Jun 2019

in their ongoing war against honesty, decency, and loyalty to the USA.

get the red out

(13,466 posts)
6. Overwhelming
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 07:24 AM
Jun 2019

The Russia links are like Thanksgiving day, more than imaginable was served up and it's hard to look at one more bite.

Farmer-Rick

(10,185 posts)
7. So, did Mueller know this?
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 07:40 AM
Jun 2019

This so clearly indicates Trump, his campaign personnel and his administration is/was knowingly playing patty cakes with Russians in exchange for money, power and cover.

Did the FBI know before Trump took over control of our federal government? They certainly were willing to run around with their hair on fire over e-mails involving Hillary. Why did they drag their feet on this? Why did Mueller pass the buck and FAIL to charge Trump with the crimes he so clearly committed? I think that the OPINION of the Justice Department that you can't indicate a sitting president for treason is an excuse for Mueller to wimp out...I think the FBI is in deep with this Russian Trump treason.

triron

(22,006 posts)
16. I posted about this yesterday evening.
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 12:05 PM
Jun 2019

Yeah, where Why is Rachel the only program talking about this??

NoMoreRepugs

(9,435 posts)
8. Just ANOTHER coincidence. Wait for it, wait for it....
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 07:47 AM
Jun 2019

"Lock HER up!" - "Lock HER up!" - now that's a real scandal to 30+% of the dumbass American voting public.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
9. This "thing" is bigger than anyone of us could imagine
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 07:53 AM
Jun 2019

"Maria Butina also turned up at the wedding of Mike Pence’s national security adviser,”

“Mike Pence’s national security adviser, Andrea Thompson, ... "

And who chose Mike Pence to run as Trump's V.P.? That would be Russian asset Paul
Manafort.

https://www.newsweek.com/mike-pence-was-handpicked-paul-manafort-696412

MIKE PENCE COULD BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT AND HE WAS HANDPICKED BY PAUL MANAFORT

renate

(13,776 posts)
14. I wonder whether we're ever going to know half of the crap that's going on
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 11:13 AM
Jun 2019

I just can’t believe what’s happened to our country. It’s like an outlandish spy novel.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
15. I think the big thing will not be the Russian/international mob/republican help in the rat ...
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 11:57 AM
Jun 2019

... fucking of the 2016 elections but the way "they" have programed into the voting machines
and central tabulators' hardware and software the ability to change the data without leaving
any "fingerprints" and in some cases the access could have been done remotely. Ever since
they passed the HAVA (help America vote act) we have seen a "red state shift" in the vote that
does not reflect the changes in the demographics and how the overall majority of Americans
feel about the social issues.

This is Alexander Torshin who was Maria Butina's boss looking @ an EES voting machine in 2012 ...
Torshin was very busy in PA in 2016 too. Luzerne County, PA which has voted blue ever since 1988
went to Trump by something like 20 points in 2016 and then went back to voting blue in 2018.





renate

(13,776 posts)
17. That is chilling
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 12:32 PM
Jun 2019

I’ve always thought it was at least a 50-50 chance that the voting was hacked... I mean, to eke out tiny wins in exactly the states he needed to win? I’m not a conspiracy theorist in any way but Russia knows what it’s doing when it comes to cyberwarfare.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
18. The Russians even left their "calling cards" in Wisconsin
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 12:55 PM
Jun 2019
https://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/news/2017/01/23/russians-suspected-hacking-local-dems/96965824/

While no one can prove beyond doubt that Russians also were involved in the local hack job, two hackers left “calling cards” with Russian email addresses on the local websites in an apparent gesture of contempt or braggadocio, Ginnebaugh said. Green Bay police were notified and have forwarded information to the FBI, she said.

Kitchari

(2,166 posts)
23. That's why I believe
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 09:46 PM
Jun 2019

Kellyanne and her husband are totally on the same page: cultivating the circumstances for Pence to be sworn in. It's all about Russian influence, and Pence is in the thick of it.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
13. We have 2 choices
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 09:00 AM
Jun 2019

Impeach Trump or
Allow Trump to delay the court cases until after the election. Oh, if he loses he will reject that outcome and declare martial law.

Every time I see “Its too soon, I shudder.”

jayschool2013

(2,312 posts)
12. Rachel summarizes reporting done by the Washington Post
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 08:40 AM
Jun 2019

She may explain it well, but the Post did the hard work.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
21. K & R
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 05:36 PM
Jun 2019

In Pennsylvania our Governor Tom Wolf has ordered all new electronic voting machines before the next election. This shit has been going on for way too long!



Edited to add: this is in reply to Botany's post #15

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