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@AdamParkhomenko
Would someone get this gutless little shit Chuck Todd a spot on the Fox and Friends couch so he can do this shit without continuing to embarrass the Meet the Press name?
Link to tweet
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)why chuckie remains on the payroll. His ratings don't justify it.
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)...so I never really "watch" Todd. But I had his show on today.
He's been peppering a lot of his Trump commentary in recent days with things like "That said, you have to give him credit for..."
Well, no, Chuck, we don't.
I heard his AOC rant today and wasn't surprised to see that he was at the top of Twitter's "trending" with most comments similar to the one in my OP.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that Chuck probably won't be one of the most popular stars in the MSNBC lineup between now and November 2020. He's starting to remind me of Hugh Hewitt, and we know how things turned out for him on the network.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)I agree with the "Hugh Hewitt" comparison. Ratings and keeping his "stature" in the industry seems to emboldened Mr. Todd to express his independent opinion. Put me in the "not a fan" column.
malaise
(269,054 posts)He does his masters' bidding very effectively - that's why!
sop
(10,193 posts)I've had it with Chuck Todd's pusilanimous interviewing style. He doesn't challenge people when they lie, he seldom asks follow-up questions and appears uninformed most of the time. I'm sick of his constant eye-rolling, helplessly looking up at the sky whenever he gets confused, and the endless, meandering questions that never seem to get to the heart of the matter.
Todd wouldn't cut it on a local, small-market tv station, much less on Meet the Fucking Press. David Gregory was a rightwing stooge, but Chuck Todd is just a stooge. We need someone like Tim Russert at this point in history.
tishaLA
(14,176 posts)Russert loved and prized proximity to power more than anything
malaise
(269,054 posts)Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)Tim Russert, in fact, provided the very standard that Choad operates from. Oh, sure, he asked a "tough question" every now and then, but he never even once pressed or challenged his Republican guests on any of their patently false lies or ridiculous, non-sequitur responses. We got to watch Tim gargle Dick Cheney's balls all the way to the Iraq war and beyond. And now Choad does the very same thing with Trump and his ilk.
sop
(10,193 posts)Surely you jest. Anyone who writes "he never even once pressed or challenged his Republican guests on any of their patently false lies or ridiculous, non-sequitur responses" and "watch Tim gargle Dick Cheney's balls" obviously never watched him. Russert's style is (was) the polar opposite of Todd's. That was the whole point, and you missed it.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)That the Washington Generals play an "extremely aggressive" game of basketball against the Harlem Globetrotters.
He was never "extremely aggressive" when the occasion, or the guest, called for it.
sop
(10,193 posts)As always, there are those who interpret everyone's motives in the media through their own far left prism.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Todd is spinning it for Republicans 6 (or 7?) days a week, it's RW propaganda.
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)...because if I had simply posted the video of that AOC segment, it would have come across as "right wing talking points."
It really was saturated with Hannity-level drama and "self-righteous indignation."
And maybe that's MSNBC's goal. They keep trying to cozy up to a right winger who will be "palatable" to their audience, even though that audience asserts over and over that they're not interested. They keep confusing "controversy" with "ratings."
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Republicans, while at the same time positioning itself in the market as overall neutral/left leaning. All you have to do is follow what you know to be a lie through its iterations in a day's programs to see the approved memes being pushed on each show. Daytime TV with its inexpensive talking heads eager to become regulars and more is easily the worst. Their goal is disaffection, and Todd is at that constantly with his false equivalencies between what the Republicans have become and Democrats.
Might as well vote Republican, no big difference.
kacekwl
(7,017 posts)Nazi concentration camps Chuck.
former9thward
(32,025 posts)That is the historical definition of the term and is what Americans think of. She owns the statement.
Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)they may be the most well known, but the term applies to any gathering place where 'undesirables' are collected for punishment. You don't need gas chambers to be concentration camps.
Perhaps we shouldn't be letting airheads like Chuck Todd argue semantics instead of discussing what it actually happening.
tishaLA
(14,176 posts)"concentration camps," as did Chief Justice Roberts in tRump v. Hawaii when referring to the Korematsu decision: "The forcible relocation of U. S. citizens to concentration camps, solely and explicitly on the basis of race, is objectively unlawful and outside the scope of Presidential authority."
Heck, I even remember, soon after I loved to Los Angeles, seeing a sports reporter refer to them as concentration camps.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)former9thward
(32,025 posts)Are you saying the Japanese-Americans went through the same horrors as those in Nazi camps? If you are you don't know history.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)Faller dichotomy to intimate that anyone who didn't go through a Nazi concentration camp isn't in a concentration camp
That's not true
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)Lawrence O'Donnell final segment tonight is "America's History with Concentration Camps." He's discussing George Takei's upcoming book on the subject, and shared his tweet about how the Japanese internment camps were, in fact, "concentration camps."
ON EDIT: She replied to Todd.
@AOC
Well, @chucktodd - the fact that you slipped in Nazi when I never said that is pretty unfortunate.
Almost as unfortunate as the fact that you spent this whole time w/o discussing DHS freezers, dog pounds, missing children, & human rights abuses that uphold use of this term.
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sop
(10,193 posts)I can't recall what Trump said that caused Todd to go off on him; he says and tweets so many shitty things on a daily basis that one forgets.
Being a card-carrying "both sides always do it" corporate media hack, I guess Chuck had to go after someone on the left, to balance things out a bit. And who better to go after than the right's favorite punching bag these days, AOC?
stopdiggin
(11,316 posts)Thank you for putting it in a nutshell. The "contrived outrage" or "faux outrage mode" would nail it down even better. Todd doesn't have a great deal of personality (a liability in the current era of the View, etc.) .. and thus contrived efforts to "whip up" a bit of fervor. Makes him look like a gosh darn regular guy. Too bad .. on the concentration camp issue .. Todd actually knows better.
spanone
(135,844 posts)RestoreAmerica2020
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EveHammond13
(2,855 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)I wish someone would take him aside and verbally give him another ass hole and then fire him. I refuse to watch him anymore.
rickford66
(5,524 posts)tishaLA
(14,176 posts)he began his comments by acknowledging that Rep Ocasio-Cortez makes "a distinction between concentration camps and Nazi death camps," and not 30 seconds later says that she has to be careful comparing them to Nazi concentration camps because theyre not at all comparable in the slightest.
In other words, in the space of a paragraph, he admits that what he's about to say is erroneous and then says it anyhow. And this is why Mr Todd is awful and why, last time I checked twitter, he was the #1 trending topic in LA with people calling him out for his hackishness and disingenuousness.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)but - and I'm sorry, I know this is petty - he is an eyesore. Doesn't he even have a stylist? With that pathetic little Lloyd Christmas hair cut and that pubic hair goatee, he is just a mess. If they are going to continue to have him on, can't someone at least send him to the damn makeover department?
Tiger58
(35 posts)Todd is a Trumper..See how he combs his hair..
czarjak
(11,278 posts)raging moderate
(4,305 posts)Is it true that he never even finished the coursework for his BA? Who decided that he was remotely qualified for this position? He seems so ignorant.
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)I read an article on this around the time that it happened, but the take-away is largely that he remained the squeaky wheel until he got his grease.
tishaLA
(14,176 posts)And by virtue of that, and sticking up to Brokaw and the others who mattered in the old boys network, he got the keys to the car after NBC had enough of David Gregory
Jarqui
(10,126 posts)Big let down from Tim Russert
Todd could work at the job 100 years and never come close to being decent.
Like Trump, he's not as smart as he thinks he is.
hibbing
(10,098 posts)Sucha NastyWoman
(2,749 posts)I have never understood why. Must be related to somebody.
TheBlackAdder
(28,209 posts)stopdiggin
(11,316 posts)Todd does know his politics. It's just that he has this deplorable failing of playing "both-siderism." Even when the facts clearly do not warrant. He seems not to be able to help himself, even when it reveals him to be a myopic nincompoop. On the other hand, perhaps "both sides do it" puts him in good stead with the corporate media types?
shraby
(21,946 posts)Bugs the H out of me.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Plus youll save yourself an hour of getting pissed off. I speak from experience.
shraby
(21,946 posts)Kid Berwyn
(14,909 posts)The best paid are the least informative.