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turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 11:12 AM Jun 2019

WATCH: Princeton professor jerks a knot in MSNBC anchor for defending 'innocence' of racist Harvard

Published 3 mins ago on June 18, 2019
By David Edwards

Princeton professor Eddie Glaude gave MSNBC’s Stephanie Ruhle a lesson in social justice on Tuesday after she spoke out in defense of a student who was rejected by Harvard over racist remarks.

During a panel discussion on MSNBC, Glaude argued that Kyle Kashuv should face consequences for his actions, which include using the N-word and calling to “kill all the f*cking Jews.”

“It makes sense to me that an institution like Harvard would want not to admit him to their community,” Glaude said.

“But if we dug into every old post or private message of every student in America, is there a risk that we could take this too far?” Ruhle said, echoing a recent Fox News segment. “Some people out there are saying they’re kids. Kids are kids. But that is when you accept someone into college, when they’re a teenager.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/06/watch-eddie-glaude-jerks-a-knot-in-msnbc-anchor-for-defending-innocence-of-racist-harvard-reject/

Stephanie Ruhle...........................

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WATCH: Princeton professor jerks a knot in MSNBC anchor for defending 'innocence' of racist Harvard (Original Post) turbinetree Jun 2019 OP
Big fucking FAIL on her part... Dennis Donovan Jun 2019 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2019 #2
I don't like Ruhle. MoonRiver Jun 2019 #3
I often disagree with her as well lark Jun 2019 #4
When she was with Ali Velshi (who I really like) she seemed more contained. I dislike her intensely hlthe2b Jun 2019 #8
She's weirdly hyperactive. MoonRiver Jun 2019 #17
Did she actually equate being wrongly accused of rape with being denied admission to Harvard for StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #5
She's a fool. nt Javaman Jun 2019 #6
Kids are kids when they are white kids. They are thugs when they are black kids. tulipsandroses Jun 2019 #7
+1000 lunasun Jun 2019 #10
+1000 StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #12
And I usually like Stephanie - I think she's usually spot on with Economic issues tulipsandroses Jun 2019 #9
It was a kid that shot up Parkland/MSD HS as I recall. JDC Jun 2019 #11
he wasnt a shooter. mopinko Jun 2019 #13
Right. I was pointing out that Stephanie was saying the Harvard kid was only a kid JDC Jun 2019 #16
my bad. mopinko Jun 2019 #19
If this guy ended up shooting someone, she'd be the first to demand to know why no one StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #18
funny, that's not how it looked to me. mopinko Jun 2019 #14
Stephanie is Okay. Polly Hennessey Jun 2019 #15

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
1. Big fucking FAIL on her part...
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 11:16 AM
Jun 2019

If any high school student posted white supremacy shit on their social media accounts, they should be called to account for it. It's not like he's 59 now and had spent years apologizing for his views, then it might be different. But this asscarrot doubled DOWN of his posts by saying Harvard was at fault.

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MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
3. I don't like Ruhle.
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 11:20 AM
Jun 2019

When she comes on I switch channels. She's full of herself, and I really don't understand why MSNBC gives her so much air time. She must know somebody high up in the organization.

lark

(23,105 posts)
4. I often disagree with her as well
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 11:23 AM
Jun 2019

At this point, the only talking heads I regularly watch are Nicole Wallace and Rachel Maddow. After drumpf, I will probably no longer watch Nicole as she is a moderate repug, not a Democrat, but Maddow will wear well for years to come IMO.

hlthe2b

(102,290 posts)
8. When she was with Ali Velshi (who I really like) she seemed more contained. I dislike her intensely
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 11:35 AM
Jun 2019

now.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
17. She's weirdly hyperactive.
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 01:33 PM
Jun 2019

One time she was waving her arms all around, and I saw giant sweat stains on the underarm part of her shirt.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
5. Did she actually equate being wrongly accused of rape with being denied admission to Harvard for
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 11:23 AM
Jun 2019

posting racist comments and calling for racial violence on social media?

And if people gave this guy a pass and then he carried out what he called for in his posts, she would be the first to demand to know, "Why didn't anyone stop him before he picked up a gun?!"

tulipsandroses

(5,124 posts)
7. Kids are kids when they are white kids. They are thugs when they are black kids.
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 11:33 AM
Jun 2019

I do believe that people can be redeemed and we've all probably said and done stupid shit as teenagers. HOWEVER - There are consequences to the stupid shit. This is the consequence to your stupid shit. Harvard rescinding your acceptance. I am so sick and tired of some white folks thinking they are entitled and privileged. No you are not entitled to go to Harvard because you said you are sorry! Now go prove to yourself and your community that you have changed. You can do it at places other than Harvard.

This is bigger than kids being kids. Its about what it says to other kids that Harvard accepts. Especially the minority students. What does it say to the minority students? Does it tell them that you are willing to create a safe space for them? See this is the point that so many seem to miss in these incidents. Its bigger than the person saying I'm sorry. If I am a minority student or worker - what does it tell me? Are you willing to create a safe space for ME and people like ME??

tulipsandroses

(5,124 posts)
9. And I usually like Stephanie - I think she's usually spot on with Economic issues
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 11:39 AM
Jun 2019

But she's way off on this.

JDC

(10,129 posts)
16. Right. I was pointing out that Stephanie was saying the Harvard kid was only a kid
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 01:10 PM
Jun 2019

I am saying so was the kid that murdered those at MSD HS. "Only a kid"

Perhaps not a fair comparison, but still.

mopinko

(70,120 posts)
19. my bad.
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 03:05 PM
Jun 2019

she's a mom of 3, she is passionate about kid's issues.
how responsible teenagers should be held for their offenses is a big one. not at all cut and dried.

and as glaud so aptly pointed out, its about race. she didnt argue that point.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
18. If this guy ended up shooting someone, she'd be the first to demand to know why no one
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 01:40 PM
Jun 2019

"connected the dots" earlier.

mopinko

(70,120 posts)
14. funny, that's not how it looked to me.
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 12:28 PM
Jun 2019

she clearly was trying to look at the other side of the question, and clearly stated that that was not her pov.

Polly Hennessey

(6,799 posts)
15. Stephanie is Okay.
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 12:42 PM
Jun 2019

Did not see segment, but she has a tendency to search for her idea of fairness. Sounds like her major take on it was that the kid was young. What she does not think through is that those young kids grow up to be a McConnell, a tRump, a Mulvaney, and on and on. Hateful name callers seldom improve later in life.

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