If Speaker Pelosi doesn't think the House is ready to begin impeachment hearings, it's because

[Poiuyt]

she hasn't done a proper job of motivating and persuading the her colleagues. She's great speaker when it comes to political strategy, but she has not shown the necessary leadership in this crisis in America.

Nobody here doesn't feel that Trump is not worthy of impeachment, but apparently, there aren't enough votes in the House to impeach him. That's because there hasn't been enough calls from their constituents. I feel that it's Pelosi's responsibility to inform the public of the extent of trump's crimes and corruption. Once people see that in a clear, articulate manner, then she would need to convince her colleagues of the benefits of impeachment. I say this because everyone behaves in their own best interest. Marketing 101. As much as we want to believe that politicians will do what's best for America, that's not true. They will do what's personally best for them. Pelosi will need to use all her (or a surrogate's) rhetorical skills to convince the public and the House of the need to impeach Trump.

We know that most people haven't read the Mueller report. Of course not. It's not written for a layperson to read. It's a very dense and difficult document, and someone would need to be very motivated to get through it. But someone should come up with a simple, easy to understand version of it -- perhaps even a video with a credible spokesperson. This message also needs to be widely distributed. Most Americans are not motivated to seek out such a message; they will need to be exposed to it in some way. Of course, the Mueller report only details some of trump's crimes. He's committed several other impeachable offenses and these also need to be spelled out.

The time to begin impeachment hearings has long past. I believe it's Pelosi's duty to inform the public what trump has done in a very clear manner and then persuade and inspire the House to impeach. American can't wait any longer.

[CentralMass]

1. I could be wrong but I think that she is persuading her colleagues not to impeach.

[sprinkleeninow]

2. O My Dog, no. It just can't be. One wonders. eom

[earthshine]

5. Impeachment has been off the table since 2006.

I thought she meant this statement to be about Bush. Apparently, she meant it to be regarding congressional power in general.

[ehrnst]

11. Impeachment for Bush was off the table. Not for this POTUS.

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Perhaps you don't remember that she used the phrase "off the table" in 2006. She knows the correct meaning of the phrase, and will say she's taking something off the table when she's taking something off the table.

If you have an instance where she has used the phrase concerning this POTUS, do share.


"Take off the table"

To withdraw something or make it no longer available, as for consideration, acceptance, discussion, etc. I wouldn't wait too long to accept the job offer—they might take it off the table before you know it.

https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/take+off+the+table

[earthshine]

13. Your response is quite condescending.

Nonetheless, it's obviously off the table. Too bad you can't see what's right in front of you.

[StarfishSaver]

14. Speaking of condescending

"Too bad you can't see what's right in front of you" is right up there.

[BlueMTexpat]

7. You are wrong. eom

[CentralMass]

12. Articles like this CNN article seem to support that she is.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/04/politics/nancy-pelosi-impeachment-trump/index.html
"Ever since special counsel Robert Mueller's unexpected public statement about his findings regarding Russia's interference in the 2016 election and potentially obstructive behavior by Donald Trump, calls to impeach the President have picked up considerable steam.

As of Monday night, 59 House Democrats have either called for Trump to be impeached or for an impeachment inquiry to be launched, according to CNN's count. And on Sunday, House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn of South Carolina, the third-ranking Democrat in the House, seemed to suggest to CNN's Jake Tapper that impeachment for Trump was inevitable.

"That's exactly what I feel, I think we've already begun it," Clyburn told Tapper, adding that Trump would be impeached "at some point."
"The impeachment boulder seemed to be rolling down the hill. Then Pelosi held a private meeting of her leadership team on Monday night. And Clyburn immediately changed his tune.

"I'm probably farther away from impeachment than anybody in our caucus," Clyburn said Monday night. "We will not get out in front of our committees. We'll see what the committees come up with. I've said that forever.""

The article goes on to discuss the Speaker reigning in key members calling for impeachment.

[BlueMTexpat]

15. We'll have to agree to disagree,

I'm afraid.

But I do believe that you meant "reining in" rather than "reigning in."

[CentralMass]

16. Yes i did reining in, thank you, and yes on the agreeing to disagree.

[LiberalLovinLug]

8. Bingo!

She's in the minority, but a very powerful minority in the party. Who have some unbeknownst interest in not wanting to upset the applecart. I'm sure she wants to beat Trump as much as anyone, she just is more comfortable not gambling with an impeachment. Even if its the right thing to do in any historical definition you could make. If she / we did start it up, even if we lost in the Senate...even if we lost in 2020 Although I think that highly unlikely after all the dirt comes out. Ten years later and onwards I think historians and writers could take a breath and look back at the Trump era with the horror it deserves. I think we are all still in an ongoing state of shock.

If the Senate protects him from impeachment, Democrats and young people will vote. If we vote en mass, we win. IMO its a much greater gamble NOT to impeach. Because if you then still lose in 2020, it would be near impossible to then start impeachment. And Democrats would be branded cowards, by probably Trump himself, with derisive tweets. I don't know if I could stand that.

[emmaverybo]

4. Eventually a very bright creator will come out with the animated cartoon version, which still,

without the collective experience of people watching hearings, would have little chance of convincing our friends in the nation who carry on their difficult lives without in-depth perusal of our
machinations, that the president MUST be impeached.
Once impeached, he will be quickly exonerated.
Don’t give me your feel-good moralistic politics. The feel good part won’t last as long as it took to
get Mueller’s report, but rather will result in a premature activist high that leads even more quickly to a Trumpian victory, discrediting Dems, and giving the greatest fodder yet for GOP leadership to declare all our efforts of a whole cloth, partisan, theatrical, and failing. Any future investigations
Will be cast in this light,
Sometimes I wonder which side such outrage wants to give comfort and aid to. If the hope is that
a House impeachment, not feasible for lack of votes, will still rid of us Trump, then I must say such
a belief is politically crude and unfounded.
Thank whoever or whatever runs the show that Nancy Pelosi has so much more savey, smarts, understanding of political history, knowledge, and restraint than do the complaining, Kervetching, short-fused personalities-without-a-plan I find post grandiose bullet points here on the wonders of
Instant impeachment, dorm Ramen style.

[BlueMTexpat]

6. Nancy knows what she is doing.

She has done a great job so far.

And the other investigations are continuing apace. The steady drip-drip of information from them is paving the way for the impeachment process even if it is not happening as quickly as those who have never tolerated delayed gratification want it to.

Here is a good article with some salient facts about impeachment. Although it is from May, these points must also be taken into consideration. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/05/impeachment-6-190510153644885.html

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In an April 22 letter to fellow Democratic politicians, Pelosi urged restraint and patience, insisting that it is "important to know that the facts regarding holding the president accountable can be gained outside of impeachment hearings".

She repeated that sentiment on Thursday, saying Democrats will take a step-by-step approach. "We won't go any faster than the facts take us or any slower," she said.

But she did say that as Trump continues to stonewall congressional investigations, he is "becoming self-impeachable".
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[Trumpocalypse]

10. So true

I trust Pelosi’s judgement far more than anyone here on DU.

[elias7]

9. What are we the charges you think she should bring?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

17. It's the Senate that is not ready. But can impeach and not refer to the Senate (Tribe 3rd option)

Keep tRump waiting fuming waiting tweeting waiting on ice for the impeachment to drop in the Senate. Mind you, he'd be daring the Democrats to refer it.

[Tanuki]

18. Impeaching too early would give the GOP a chance to regroup before the 2020 election.

Maybe holding off until they have missed the window of opportunity to mount a credible primary challenger is strategic.