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Demovictory9

(32,457 posts)
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 06:11 PM Jun 2019

Calif man puts giant swastika in his yard. "what is a swastika?", "I just thought it'd be cool"

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CALIFORNIA MAN PUTS GIANT SWASTIKA IN HIS FRONT YARD, NEIGHBORS ARE OFFENDED, WORRIED ABOUT PROPERTY VALUE

A California man has shocked neighbors by having a 10 foot-wide Swastika built in his front yard.

Aerial-view images captured above Steve Johnson's one-storey home on Lindell Drive in El Sobrante, Contra Costa County, show a huge black concrete Swastika taking up a portion of his yard. The Swastika measures around 10 feet by 10 feet, according to Bay Area News Group.

In interviews with local news outlets, Johnson claimed he wasn't aware of what the sign represents. He said he liked the shape and denied that he supported the Nazis, while his neighbors expressed concern.

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Johnson spoke to reporters about his home's new feature. When asked about the sign in his yard, Johnson asked NBC Bay Area "What is a swastika?"

"I like swastikas," he said according to Bay Area News Group. "I think they look cool. I didn't do it to get attention. I'm not a worshiper of Nazis. I just thought it'd be a cool thing to put in there."

https://www.newsweek.com/california-man-puts-giant-swastika-front-yard-1442471?amp=1&__twitter_impression=true
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Calif man puts giant swastika in his yard. "what is a swastika?", "I just thought it'd be cool" (Original Post) Demovictory9 Jun 2019 OP
Uh-huh: tblue37 Jun 2019 #1
Here is part of what a swastika represents - SIX MILLION JEWS EXECUTED: real Cannabis calm Jun 2019 #20
10x10 BULLSHIT! That Ford F-150 is 17.75 feet long, if a 6.5' bed and 19 feet with an 8' bed. TheBlackAdder Jun 2019 #22
They took an aerial photo, now do an aerial bombing ProudLib72 Jun 2019 #2
Well it was a cool symbol until Hitler changed the course of its original meaning MagickMuffin Jun 2019 #3
Yeah, when I found out swastikas weren't cool, marylandblue Jun 2019 #10
I HATE when that happens lol. Damn Nazis, ruining EVERYTHING!! Volaris Jun 2019 #39
And then he had to lie about it. Not just a Nazi, but a coward. Iggo Jun 2019 #4
Looks to me it was an ugly yard any way. cwydro Jun 2019 #5
that whole swastika area could be a lovely garden Demovictory9 Jun 2019 #7
My thought too. cwydro Jun 2019 #9
He claimed to not know what it was Downtown Hound Jun 2019 #54
What a turd. cwydro Jun 2019 #55
Lying piece of trash JDC Jun 2019 #6
I know. If he likes swastikas he's obviously done research on them. Demovictory9 Jun 2019 #8
The Finns used a swastika as a military aircraft national insignia in WWII and before Kaleva Jun 2019 #25
That's no coincidence. The swastika appears as a rightwing symbol shortly after WWI -- struggle4progress Jun 2019 #60
" These LAMP shades ? I thought they were cool " Rustyeye77 Jun 2019 #11
Lying asshole dalton99a Jun 2019 #12
old enough to know what a swastika represents to most people Demovictory9 Jun 2019 #13
Looks like Paul Sr. from American Chopper sop Jun 2019 #38
he does Demovictory9 Jun 2019 #40
They all seem to look like Paul. LakeArenal Jun 2019 #44
WTF is he wearing ??????? JI7 Jun 2019 #43
Wife-beater t-shirt, and what looks like a Nazi stormtrooper helmet with goggles sop Jun 2019 #45
The helmet style is popular with Harley riders. trev Jun 2019 #51
It looks more like this: sop Jun 2019 #53
Yeah, I guess mine looks more like a bicycle helmet. LOL trev Jun 2019 #58
If his intention had been to represent the traditional swastika instead Aristus Jun 2019 #48
Oh, that guy knows what a swastika is. MineralMan Jun 2019 #49
What a shithole! smirkymonkey Jun 2019 #50
He's full of shit among other things. Solly Mack Jun 2019 #14
And when he tries to sell his house he'll wonder why he's getting lowball offers. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #15
unfortunately the neighbors will have problems selling their homes. Demovictory9 Jun 2019 #41
It's new, he just installed it! BigmanPigman Jun 2019 #16
yeah sure Takket Jun 2019 #17
Oh my! George and Elaine are using the "wp" hand gesture sop Jun 2019 #37
Lying sack of brown smelly.... Maxheader Jun 2019 #18
You can't fix stupid. gldstwmn Jun 2019 #19
So he's going to remove it? Red Mountain Jun 2019 #21
Nope: dalton99a Jun 2019 #26
He knows goddamn well what a swastika signifies, and no, it's not a "cool thing." VOX Jun 2019 #23
There is a swastika sticker on his bike (it's for Tibet, of course) dalton99a Jun 2019 #24
I googled some newspaper articles, he has some additional "motifs" by his front door. VOX Jun 2019 #30
The reporter said he has one in tile in his shower. cwydro Jun 2019 #56
That would get him arrested in Germany today. nt Captain Zero Jun 2019 #27
I wouldn't want that for the US Loki Liesmith Jun 2019 #31
He seems nice.... magicarpet Jun 2019 #28
Be a shame if he had an accident on that bike. Phoenix61 Jun 2019 #29
Human trash Loki Liesmith Jun 2019 #32
He liked the shape. betsuni Jun 2019 #33
what a total ASSHOLE Raine Jun 2019 #34
A biker who likes swastikas? Codeine Jun 2019 #35
Disgusting liar Hekate Jun 2019 #36
MAGA Trash JI7 Jun 2019 #42
And a long battle with the local zoning commission is on the way. irisblue Jun 2019 #46
They interviewed some local government guy who said there's nothing they can do. cwydro Jun 2019 #57
He's un-American rockfordfile Jun 2019 #47
The bullshit-o-meter broke over this one. tymorial Jun 2019 #52
No! Nazism is not cool and nothing associated with it is! Initech Jun 2019 #59

real Cannabis calm

(1,124 posts)
20. Here is part of what a swastika represents - SIX MILLION JEWS EXECUTED:
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 08:03 PM
Jun 2019
Auschwitz-Birkenau: The Evolution of Tattooing in the Auschwitz Concentration Camp Complex
by George Rosenthal (Auschwitz Survivor)

For many, the blurred blue lines of a serial number on a forearm are an indelible image of the Holocaust. The tattoos of the survivors have come to symbolize the utter brutality and of the concentration camps and the attempt of the Nazis to dehumanize their victims. The tattoos are also a testament to the resilience of those who bear them. Yet despite the importance of the tattoos, as testament, symbol, and historical artifact, little scholarship has been devoted to the subject. There exist virtually no official period documents relating to the practice; what we know stems from anecdotal evidence contained in camp records and the accounts of those who were at the camps.

The Auschwitz Concentration Camp Complex (including Auschwitz 1, AuschwitzBirkenau, and Monowitz) was the only location in which prisoners were systematically tattooed during the Holocaust. Prior to tattooing, several means of identifying prisoners, both by number and by category, had been implemented; serial numbers were the main method. When they arrived at the camp, prisoners were issued serial numbers which were then sewn to their prison uniforms. These serial numbers were most often accompanied by different shapes, symbols or letters which identified the status, nationality, or religion of the prisoner. This practice continued even after tattooing was introduced.

Executions were one means of physically liquidating prisoners and people brought from outside the camp. At first, people were shot to death in the pits near the camp from which gravel had been dug. From the autumn of 1941 until the autumn of 1943, most of the executions by shooting took place in the courtyard of Block No. 11 in the main camp. Most of the victims here were Poles, who received sentences of death by shooting from, for instance, the Gestapo summary court...

Soviet prisoners of war were also executed at Auschwitz concentration camp. Beginning in September 1941, executions were also carried out using poison gas.

At least 2,000 Soviet prisoners of war were put to death in this way. After the dismantling of the Death Wall in 1944, larger groups of Poles sentenced to death by the police summary court were executed in the gas chambers. Executions by hanging were carried out sporadically in the camp. As opposed to shooting or killing in the gas chamber, hanging was public. It was carried out in front of other prisoners, usually during roll call.
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-evolution-of-tattooing-in-the-auschwitz-concentration-camp-complex

MagickMuffin

(15,943 posts)
3. Well it was a cool symbol until Hitler changed the course of its original meaning
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 06:15 PM
Jun 2019

But now it is associated with Nazis.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
10. Yeah, when I found out swastikas weren't cool,
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 06:21 PM
Jun 2019

I had to throw out half my collection of ancient South Asian iconography.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
9. My thought too.
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 06:20 PM
Jun 2019

Veggies, flowers...

A shame.

I don’t believe for a minute either that he doesn’t know what a swastika is

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
54. He claimed to not know what it was
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 05:59 PM
Jun 2019

And then immediately say that it's also a Buddhist and Hindu symbol. Me thinks he knows exactly what a swastika is if he knows that. I'm sure he also knows that the Buddhist and Hindu versions look quite different from the Nazi one, and yet his just happens to look exactly like the Nazi one, as does the one on his bike.

Kaleva

(36,309 posts)
25. The Finns used a swastika as a military aircraft national insignia in WWII and before
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 08:52 PM
Jun 2019

But the Finn swastika was different then the Nazi emblem as it was rotated slightly.

"Finland’s adoption of the swastika predates its association with National Socialism. Mecklin tells the tale of how in 1918, the Swedish count Eric von Rosen had a swastika painted on the wings of an aircraft which he donated to the Finnish White Army, which was then fighting against Soviet-backed Red Guards to establish an independent Finland – a battle which the Whites ultimately won....

(While von Rosen’s introduction of the swastika to Finland had no relation to National Socialism, van Rosen himself in later years did. In 1923, his sister married Hermann Göring, and he had ties to Swedish national socialist parties in the 1930s.)"

https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2018/0910/Finland-used-the-swastika-before-the-Nazis.-Why-do-they-still

struggle4progress

(118,294 posts)
60. That's no coincidence. The swastika appears as a rightwing symbol shortly after WWI --
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 08:08 PM
Jun 2019

and the Freikorps were actively involved in attempting to control the politics of the Baltic states immediately after WWI ended

The Nazi adoption of the symbol was a bow to those pre-existing rightwing groups

dalton99a

(81,515 posts)
12. Lying asshole
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 06:22 PM
Jun 2019

El Sobrante resident Steven Johnson, 65, spoke to journalists on his motorcycle Wednesday, June 5, 2019 after installing a concrete swastika on his lawn. (Dylan Bouscher/Bay Area News Group)



trev

(1,480 posts)
51. The helmet style is popular with Harley riders.
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 04:43 PM
Jun 2019

My best friend in Germany wore one.

https://www.amazon.com/Gloss-Black-Motorcycle-Helmet-Approved/dp/B07F94SQ9C/ref=asc_df_B07F94SQ9C/?tag=bingshoppinga-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid={creative}&hvpos={adposition}&hvnetw=o&hvrand={random}&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=e&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl={devicemodel}&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4583589105596323&psc=1

sop

(10,192 posts)
53. It looks more like this:
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 05:27 PM
Jun 2019
https://www.jpcycles.com/product/714-851/fly-racing-street-9mm-flat-black-half-helmet

The WWII German Military replica MC helmets have the characteristic lip along the rear and sides. The style's been popular with certain Harley riders for years in states with helmet laws, usually favored by guys who like to dress up like pirates, wear patches and 1% badges on their sleeveless vests, and appear as menacing as possible. It definitely matches this guy's Nazi-themed front yard.

Aristus

(66,386 posts)
48. If his intention had been to represent the traditional swastika instead
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 04:26 PM
Jun 2019

of the Nazi one, he would have faced the arms to the left, not the right, and not have given it a quarter turn. In the traditional swastika, the deployment of the arms is along a square pattern, not a diamond one as in his concrete swastika.

What an asshole.

I discovered what the swastika represented by the time I was six years ld...

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
50. What a shithole!
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 04:38 PM
Jun 2019

And a shitty person living in it. He knows exactly what he's doing. I hope someone does to his swastika what what done to Trump's star on Hollywood Boulevard.

BigmanPigman

(51,608 posts)
16. It's new, he just installed it!
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 07:10 PM
Jun 2019
Of course he knows what it means. He is an asshole. Poor neighbors, I wonder what else they have had to deal with over the years.

sop

(10,192 posts)
37. Oh my! George and Elaine are using the "wp" hand gesture
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 11:56 PM
Jun 2019

The “okay” hand gesture is now used as a hate symbol; the hand forms the letters "w" and "p," representing "white power." The whole thing started on 4chan, then was adopted by nazi, white nationalist and racist groups.

https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/okay-hand-gesture

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
18. Lying sack of brown smelly....
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 07:45 PM
Jun 2019

Aww...po fella needs some attention...at the expense of a lot of dead people...

Red Mountain

(1,733 posts)
21. So he's going to remove it?
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 08:29 PM
Jun 2019

If it's expensive I suspect somebody would volunteer their time.

This guy is either an idiot or a liar.

dalton99a

(81,515 posts)
26. Nope:
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 08:53 PM
Jun 2019
"I own this house I'll put what I want. It ain't none of your guys' business," he told ABC-affiliate KGO.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
23. He knows goddamn well what a swastika signifies, and no, it's not a "cool thing."
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 08:44 PM
Jun 2019

Moreover, I'll bet that Swastika Steve has a sizable collection of Nazi paraphernalia inside his happy home.

dalton99a

(81,515 posts)
24. There is a swastika sticker on his bike (it's for Tibet, of course)
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 08:52 PM
Jun 2019
When reporters asked Johnson about the swastika sticker on his bike, he told them to leave his yard.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
30. I googled some newspaper articles, he has some additional "motifs" by his front door.
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 09:14 PM
Jun 2019

So it's an easy guess that he's a dedicated "collector."

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
29. Be a shame if he had an accident on that bike.
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 09:09 PM
Jun 2019

Just saying. Not that karma would be out to get him because he’s a lying POS.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
57. They interviewed some local government guy who said there's nothing they can do.
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 06:15 PM
Jun 2019

This is frightening. The Bay Area?

Unreal.

Initech

(100,080 posts)
59. No! Nazism is not cool and nothing associated with it is!
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 06:33 PM
Jun 2019

Now *THAT* will drive your property values down 75%!

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