The impeachment whip list

[George II]

Where the House stands on impeachment

60 are for impeachment, 59 Democrats, 1 Republican

375 are against, or have no public position, 177 Democrats, 198 Republicans

59 House Democrats and one House Republican now publicly support launching an impeachment inquiry against President Trump, according to an Axios analysis.

Why it matters: The whip count surged in the aftermath of Robert Mueller's statement last week, but pro-impeachment Democrats still amount to only a quarter of the 235-member caucus.

That figure is likely to stay well below the threshold necessary to launch impeachment in the House until the moment — if it ever comes — that Speaker Nancy Pelosi gives her blessing.

By the numbers:

13 of the 24 Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee publicly support an impeachment inquiry. 21 are needed to refer an impeachment resolution to the House floor.

Of the 8 Democrats that Axios identified as "influential" — the 3 top members of leadership and 5 committee chairs investigating Trump — only one publicly supports impeachment: Financial Services Chair Maxine Waters. Judiciary Committee Chair Jerrold Nadler has reportedly pushed privately to open an impeachment inquiry.

None of the 17 Democrats running in "toss-up" districts in 2020 are pro-impeachment, according to the Cook Political Report.

The big picture: Pelosi has long wagered that impeachment would be fruitless without overwhelming public support, and right now, the public isn't there. 41% of the public supported impeachment as of May 31, down significantly from an all-time high of 47% in September 2018, according to a CNN poll.

That doesn't account for the conventional wisdom that a Republican-controlled Senate would never vote to convict Trump and remove him from office even if the House impeached him.

The bottom line: Many of the Democrats who publicly support impeachment are the same ones that are already known for being outspoken critics of the president. That masks the reality that 75% of the caucus, including its leader, remains opposed.

https://www.axios.com/impeachment-house-democrats-whip-list-c730f5e6-201f-41db-b3e1-923c387b894c.html

[PufPuf23]

1. It makes no sense that Pelosi thinks Trump belongs in prison yet

refuses to encourage members of the House to come on board for impeachment,

At least 80% of regular Democratic voters support impeachment. So the House members aren't listening or representing the desires of their prime constituents.

Pelosi's job is to build Congressional and public support for impeachment, especially if she believes Trump belongs in prison and as she has literally a front row seat for the ongoing trashing of our nation and system.

[Me.]

2. I See Her Primary Job As Passing Legislation & Keeping The House

As usual Politico twisted what was actually said in that meeting and where things stand. Her prison statement was an offhand comment and much in keeping, truth be told with what a major of Dems want. Nancy is also in favor of letting the process play out and see where it ends up. Before starting impeachment she thinks the case needs to be made to the American public and to bring them along.


“According to a new poll, less than half of Americans surveyed support impeachment against President Donald Trump, but the percentage has risen slightly in the last month.

The Reuters/Ipsos poll says that 45 percent of Americans support impeachment, while 42 percent said that the president should not be impeached. Another 13 percent were undecided on the question.

This is a slight increase in the support for impeachment since April, when the same poll saw 40 percent support from Americans surveyed.”…

https://www.theblaze.com/news/poll-impeachment

[angrychair]

5. Survey is misleading

Before impeachment hearings started on Nixon, the support for impeachment was a lot lower.

As many who support impeachment hearings have pointed out, in early 1973, Gallup polling showed that only 19 percent of Americans supported removing President Richard M. Nixon. By the summer of 1974, when Nixon resigned, support had climbed to the high 50s

[StarfishSaver]

8. Not true

By the time impeachment hearings on Nixon began in 1974, public support for impeachment had shifted significantly, thanks to the investigations and hearings held in the year before the impeachment hearings began.

Moreover, other than the first 20 minutes of the first hearing in May 1974 and the discussion and vote on the Articles of Impeachment in late July 1974, the impeachment hearings weren't televised.

[Me.]

11. Beat Me To It

and while we know more Dems are in favor than the Cons what I can't find is the info on the indies.

[George II]

15. In 1974 the first vote in the House, which was a resolution to give the Judiciary Committee....

....the authority to open an impeachment inquiry, passed by 410-4. The support now for an impeachment inquiry isn't even close to that.

Also, back in 1974 the Judiciary Committee voted 33-3 to subpoena the Nixon tapes. I seriously doubt a similar vote today in the Judiciary Committee would be that big a majority.

There was much more bipartisan sentiment in 1974 to open the inquiry than there is today, yet.

[PufPuf23]

17. That poll is ALL Americans, GOP, Independent, others

A poll of registered Democratic voter is over 80%.

Never stated that Pelosi's primary role is to impeach.

But if Pelosi believes Trump should be in prison concur), an active impeachment inquiry is obvious.

I sincerely doubt that any POTUS will ever be imprisoned and that includes Trump unfortunately. All we can hope for is that Trump be out of public office, bankrupt, shunned, and disgraced.

[Me.]

20. With Respect, DidI Misconscrue Your Statement?

"Pelosi's job is to build Congressional and public support for impeachment"

[PufPuf23]

21. Never said that was Pelosi's only job, Nancy is Speaker of the House,

one of the most critical and responsible positions in our government. Pelosi is the most powerful member of the Democratic party.

I respect and support Pelosi but disagree now (and disagreed regards impeachment GWB) as do a majority of people that identify as Democratic (same as the GWB event).

This is a fact that should cause most to ponder.

[Me.]

22. You Did Say

Primary Job

As to a majority of Dems, a majority of her caucus is what would be needed and that number is not even close

[ehrnst]

16. Something that she said offhand in a private meeting is now a policy?

When did that happen?

Also, can you provide a link to the polls where you got the numbers on Democratic voters and impeachment?

As for what the Speaker's 'job' is, determining a timeline for the best outcome is a large part of it, and she has more experience and inside information than either you or I do.

I think Clarence Thomas is continuing to trash the constitution, but I would not support impeaching him at this time - because the consequences of impeachment now would be worse than waiting until another administration.

I know it's not the same thing as impeaching DT, but it's an illustration about why doing what seems right, right now would backfire on us because of the timing.

[PufPuf23]

18. Did a cursory search and on top is a Slate article about a recent CNN poll

that says 76% of Democrats now support impeachment. Pelosi is contrary to her own California constituency.

Support for Impeachment Surges Among Democrats but Majority of Americans Still Oppose It

By Daniel Politi
June 02, 201911:24 AM

Democrats are increasingly in favor of impeaching President Donald Trump, with 76 percent saying they support the move to oust the president from office, according to a new CNN poll. That marks a seven-percentage-point increase from April when support for impeachment stood at 69 percent among Democrats, according to the poll conducted by SSRS.

Among Americans as a whole, support for impeachment increased only slightly to 41 percent, up from 37 percent last month. On the opposite end, 54 percent are opposed to impeachment. And despite the slight uptick, it is hardly the highest it has ever been compared to the 47 percent who supported impeachment in September 2018.

The president’s constant soundbite that he is under attack by Democrats appears to be working as 65 percent say he is facing more investigations than any previous president. But that doesn’t mean the public think the investigations are unfair. Almost half of Americans, or 47 percent, say the investigations are justified, while 44 percent say they are not. That is pretty much divided among party lines, with 75 percent of Democrats saying the investigations are justified and 74 percent of Republicans saying they are not justified.

Despite the slight shifts in opinions about impeachment, Trump’s overall approval rating has remained steady and a clear majority continue to disapprove of the president. While 43 percent say they approve of the job Trump is doing in the White House, 52 percent say they disapprove.

The poll comes at a time when Democratic lawmakers are increasingly facing calls from their constituents to begin impeachment proceedings. On Saturday, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s speech to the California Democratic Party State Convention was repeatedly interrupted by cries of “impeach” from the audience.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/06/impeachment-poll-surges-democrats-trump.html

[ehrnst]

19. Something that she said offhand in a private meeting is now a policy? When did that happen?

Care to answer that?

[mopinko]

3. not everyone not publicly in is out.

i know my rep is on the bus, but loves and respects the speaker, and isnt going to cross her out loud.

i had a thought the other day that perhaps the drip drip drip is not an accident. build the pressure.

[StarfishSaver]

6. If your rep really thinks impeachment is the right thing to do, shouldn't they speak up

even if it means crossing the Speaker?

[mopinko]

7. she will.

she well when the time is rich, and when it really matters.
i have no worries, and she certainly hasnt been quiet.

[StarfishSaver]

9. But she thinks it's too early to speak up now?

[mopinko]

12. i'm done w you.

i think you are trolling.
enough for me.

[betsuni]

4. K&R

[DeminPennswoods]

10. My rep is one of those moderate freshmen

His website says he supports investigations and oversight. It's not that big a jump to supporting an impeachment inquiry.

[brer cat]

13. Thanks for an informative post, George.

K&R

[orangecrush]

14. Wake me up

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when somebody takes effective action that actually rocks the world of president Stephen Miller and the orange sock puppet.

[Poiuyt]

23. Right now, someone needs to show why it's in the representatives best interest

to begin impeachment proceedings. Everyone in Washington does what's best for themselves.

That said, if and when Pelosi says she's in favor of impeachment, other Democrats will follow suit.