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Beschloss tweet: Bringing RFK home (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Jun 2019 OP
Love, love, love Beschloss. hlthe2b Jun 2019 #1
My favorite PH, with Doris Kearns Goodwin and Robert Caro tied for second Dennis Donovan Jun 2019 #2
Yes he would have ended the Vietnam War immediately FakeNoose Jun 2019 #15
I vividly remember this entire epic TruckFump Jun 2019 #3
I don't remember this (I was 2 1/2), however, I remember what happened 2 weeks later... Dennis Donovan Jun 2019 #4
OMG! TruckFump Jun 2019 #5
Dad was a Bobby supporter... Dennis Donovan Jun 2019 #6
Jeez Bayard Jun 2019 #11
Oh, how horrible. I am truly very sorry. hlthe2b Jun 2019 #17
1968 set progressivism back 50 years... Wounded Bear Jun 2019 #7
1963, Medgar Evers, and of course, mountain grammy Jun 2019 #9
Sad Times Roy Rolling Jun 2019 #8
I had just graduated from college nevergiveup Jun 2019 #14
I was a little kid in 1968... B Stieg Jun 2019 #10
A week before he died he was in San Francisco kimbutgar Jun 2019 #12
I met RFK two weeks before he was murdered Thunderbeast Jun 2019 #13
When the train.... MarcoZandrini Jun 2019 #16

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
2. My favorite PH, with Doris Kearns Goodwin and Robert Caro tied for second
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 08:59 AM
Jun 2019


Had he lived, won the nom in '68 and the Presidency, how many lives would have been saved by ending the war in 1969 (which raged on until 1973)?

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
15. Yes he would have ended the Vietnam War immediately
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 11:26 AM
Jun 2019

... and also ... Watergate would have NEVER HAPPENED! The Repukes turning to the dark side would have never happened either. Probably even Ronald Reagan would have stayed in California instead of f*cking up the country. Oh my God our lives would have been completely different. If only!

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
3. I vividly remember this entire epic
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 09:37 AM
Jun 2019

I was in college and got home from a movie and turned on the tube and there it was -- the vigil to see if RFK would live.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
4. I don't remember this (I was 2 1/2), however, I remember what happened 2 weeks later...
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 09:40 AM
Jun 2019

My father drowned in front of all of us at our camp on Cayuga Lake.

I tend to associate the two deaths together due to their proximity in time.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
6. Dad was a Bobby supporter...
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 09:52 AM
Jun 2019

...and was likely saddened by his death, I assume. The day he died (6/23/68), he had to put my Grandmother (his mother) in a nursing home because of dementia. He was really sad about it, so he took us all out to lunch. Afterwards, we went to camp and took a boat ride. My sister fell out of the boat; he jumped in and saved her, but was then caught in lake weeds that pulled him down.

Bayard

(22,099 posts)
11. Jeez
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 10:57 AM
Jun 2019

No words for that loss, Dennis. I'm so sorry.

I was still a kid when Bobby was killed, but like John, remember as a time of great sadness. History could have been so different.....

Roy Rolling

(6,918 posts)
8. Sad Times
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 10:27 AM
Jun 2019

I was a kid and my family was "on vacation" at a relative's house. Because he was shot and died a few days later there was around-the-clock coverage on TV. As kids, we sat and watched the terrible spectacle play out during the longest week of our lives.

Worst vacation ever, though the Astrodome was great!

nevergiveup

(4,762 posts)
14. I had just graduated from college
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 11:08 AM
Jun 2019

and was finishing my first year of teaching. There really are no adequate words. As terrible as things are today they don't begin to match the sadness and hopelessness that so many of us felt during those days. I don't tear up easily but seeing the pictures of that train and the people lining the tracks automatically triggers the spigot for me. May Bobby, John and Martin forever rest in peace and may we as a nation never have to go through anything like that again.

B Stieg

(2,410 posts)
10. I was a little kid in 1968...
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 10:51 AM
Jun 2019

but I built my own Bobby cortege with my blocks and a toy train...
I still have a framed copy of a Kennedy for President campaign poster hanging on the wall.
From Martin through Bobby through the DNC and Kent State and all the way to Tet, '68 was one hellish year...

kimbutgar

(21,163 posts)
12. A week before he died he was in San Francisco
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 11:02 AM
Jun 2019

My Dad took my sister and I down to the area where he was and my Dad held me up and I got to shake his hand. A week later I was in bed asleep when I heard my Dad scream out loud when he saw on TV that Bobby was shot. We all got up and watched on TV the scene in the kitchen with the guy holding Bobby’s head and the ambulance taking him away. The next day at school this mean girl said she hoped he dies because he was a Democrat. I never liked her ever after that. A couple of years ago I went to a reunion of that class and the girl was there. She was the only fat donnie in the group.

Thunderbeast

(3,417 posts)
13. I met RFK two weeks before he was murdered
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 11:06 AM
Jun 2019

In high school, I worked on his campaign and dragged my parents to a rally at a Portland high school.

His words were inspiring. He lost his Oregon primary contest to Gene McCarthy, but went on to win California on the night he was shot.

I talked to several Nixon voters who confided that they would have voted for Kennedy. The stain of Johnson's war and the palpable civil unrest could not be overcome by Hubert Humphrey. Nixon barely won in 1968. It was recently confirmed that prior to the election, Nixon convinced North Vietnam NOT to pursue peace talks in order to secure his win.

1968 was a scary time for America.

MarcoZandrini

(39 posts)
16. When the train....
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 11:37 AM
Jun 2019

....carrying Bobby’s body passed through a NYC station the people on the platform spontaneously started singing “The Battle Hymn of the Republic.” Sends shivers down my back just thinking about that.

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