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Vinnie From Indy

(10,820 posts)
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 07:50 AM Jun 2019

Two and a half years later, DHS still hasn't performed audits to see if votes were hacked in 2016

It’s almost certain that hostile foreign hackers will try to disrupt and sow confusion around the pivotal U.S. elections in 2020, whether they’re hunkered down in bunkers in Belarus, drab office buildings in the Moscow suburbs, living rooms in Tehran, or warehouses in Beijing. And they’ll bring their A-game.

The question is, How well prepared is the U.S. to counter and contain those attacks?

And the answer is: Be scared, very scared.

The U.S. government has almost certainly not learned its lesson in the wake of the large-scale attack on election systems in 2016, and by the smaller-scale activity around the 2018 midterm elections, say election experts and cybersecurity researchers.

https://www.fastcompany.com/90341582/two-and-a-half-years-later-dhs-still-hasnt-performed-audits-to-see-if-votes-were-hacked-in-2016

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Two and a half years later, DHS still hasn't performed audits to see if votes were hacked in 2016 (Original Post) Vinnie From Indy Jun 2019 OP
They're too busy throwing babies in cages. Takes alot of work!! donkeypoofed Jun 2019 #1
Something of a non sequitur FBaggins Jun 2019 #2
Which scores of audits? unc70 Jun 2019 #4
It's the "system wide" part that can't be done FBaggins Jun 2019 #5
Well, duh DFW Jun 2019 #3

donkeypoofed

(2,187 posts)
1. They're too busy throwing babies in cages. Takes alot of work!!
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 07:56 AM
Jun 2019

They're very busy and the 2020 election needs to be hacked - all equals no action will be taken.

FBaggins

(26,749 posts)
2. Something of a non sequitur
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 08:34 AM
Jun 2019

DHS doesn’t have audit powers for elections (which are run by states)

There have, however, been scores of audits without any evidence of hacking of votes. Accessing of voter databases, sure, but no vote hacking.

unc70

(6,115 posts)
4. Which scores of audits?
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 09:57 AM
Jun 2019

I don't know of any system-wide reviews of an election that would qualify as an audit. Even the criminal investigation in the NC-9 election mostly focused on absentee ballots. In many states, the recount procedures are laughable, especially in those states with "trust me" voting machines -- nothing to recount, nothing to audit.

FBaggins

(26,749 posts)
5. It's the "system wide" part that can't be done
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 01:28 PM
Jun 2019

Counties and states run elections... so there’s no single system.

But most do audits of random precincts and/or counties after each election... and of course there were recounts in some close states (including some hand recounts). More than enough to show evidence of hacking votes if it occurred at a level that could have impacted the election.

DFW

(54,414 posts)
3. Well, duh
Wed Jun 5, 2019, 08:46 AM
Jun 2019

Does anyone really expect a U.S. Government agency under the command of Trump or one of his stooges to perform an audit that would probably show definitively that Trump is not the duly elected president of the USA?

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