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(23,147 posts)Good for her! She's obviously not the stupid Barbie drumpf assumes her to be.
shockey80
(4,379 posts)That would be the good news I have been looking for.
onetexan
(13,056 posts)Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)mitch96
(13,924 posts)comradebillyboy
(10,174 posts)the benefits from her time with Trump and has no more use for him.
Leghorn21
(13,526 posts)Marthe48
(17,015 posts)Maybe they'll stop cowering and follow her lead.
blugbox
(951 posts)I disagree. His ass will be steamed more than once by Hope Hicks.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Eyeball_Kid
(7,434 posts)She is withholding documents created AFTER the 2016 election. She should be held in contempt.
Bilegurken
(58 posts)would be covered by 'executive privilege', since she had an advisory role. Is that not true?
C_U_L8R
(45,019 posts)Just saying.
mopinko
(70,198 posts)conversations. beside the crime/fraud exemption, lots of things are not privileged.
groundloop
(11,521 posts)And have it tied up in the courts for months.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)If I were advising her, I would tell her to do just what she's doing.
There is no question that the pre-White House material has no protection - executive privilege or otherwise - so she's legally obligated to turn it over.
But it's possible that some of the material from the White House is protected by executive privilege. If the White House is invoking executive privilege as to those documents, it's not up to her to try to figure out what she can and can't/should or shouldn't turn over. I would advise her to hold off and let Congress and the White House fight it out. Once that's resolved, she can then turn over what isn't protected.
Maine-i-acs
(1,499 posts)if there ever was such a thing.
She's photogenic and has a conscience
juxtaposed
(2,778 posts)mahatmakanejeeves
(57,586 posts)Maine-i-acs
(1,499 posts)but she doesn't seem the type to face prison in order to protect the Chumpenfuhrer
Fiendish Thingy
(15,651 posts)Shes handing over campaign documents, which arent protected by executive privilege- shes still withholding documents from her time at the WH.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,176 posts)I think people really really want Hope Hicks to wake up, and do the right thing. It might be some kind of social conditioning, or watching too many Hollywood movies maybe...but we tend to think good looking people are good people. At least we give them more a benefit of the doubt. But that's another topic.
But based on that other posting here, as you said, these are only the documents that are not covered by executive privilege. She's doing the bare minimum, and it has nothing to do with rebelling against her Dear Leader.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,651 posts)They use weasel words like privilege could apply, knowing this will help run out the clock in court delays.
IMO, if privilege hasnt been asserted the contempt citations should be issued. Of course, if this were for an impeachment inquiry, privilege wouldnt apply anyways...
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)but I could be mistaken.
However, if he's just claiming that "{p}rivilege could apply," that won't "help run out the clock in court delays." In fact, such a "weasel" claim would speed up any court proceeding, since a court wouldn't even consider it but would bounce it back out into the street within nanoseconds.
In this instance, Trump's many claims of executive privilege likely wouldn't work, regardless whether he invokes them in an impeachment inquiry or any other kind of proceeding since most of the information sought doesn't fall within the protection of the doctrine anyway.
But, that said, it's incorrect to say that a valid privilege claim "wouldn't apply" in an impeachment proceeding - this has never actually been decided or determined. As one the favorite sources of some people around here has noted, "{I}t is worth remembering that the Supreme Court has never decided a case concerning a congressional subpoena for information issued to an executive branch official where the president has asserted executive privilege. In theory, the Supreme Court could decide the issue is a political question and leave it to the other two branches to sort out in some other way." https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-powers-does-formal-impeachment-inquiry-give-house.
Xolodno
(6,398 posts)ALL HANDS ON DECK!
BATTEN DOWN THE HATCHES!
CANCEL THE THREE RING CIRCUS!!!
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,961 posts)He wasn't the executive then, so he can't make that claim. He knew these would have to be produced. She still isn't producing anything from her term in the White House, though.
SayItLoud
(1,702 posts)hasn't hand picked those docs? Choosing only the most nebulous ones is what she will deliver.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)Probably will be paid from tRump's re-election funds, like Donald Jr.'s.
BlueJac
(7,838 posts)I hope she brings a trunk full! Someone one is going to catch all hell sooner than later for not complying to Congress. It is past due.
FakeNoose
(32,726 posts)... but did she keep anything when she left? I didn't think that was allowed.
catrose
(5,073 posts)ancianita
(36,132 posts)SCVDem
(5,103 posts)To lock these obstructionists up!
Do NOT fuck with our Constitution!
There's more to it than the 2nd!
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Doitnow
(1,103 posts)and give tRump all the time in the world to intimidate, bribe or otherwise hinder people from coming forward. Why not just have people just show up on live tv and let them bring on their evidence. They can get all the cameras going in 5 minutes if they have to.
George II
(67,782 posts)*well, baby anyway.
Celerity
(43,485 posts)a kennedy
(29,699 posts)was just on Rachel......
lindysalsagal
(20,726 posts)No one held a gun to her head when she decided to work for the monster.
sandensea
(21,657 posts)Know what I mean?
mahina
(17,693 posts)pecosbob
(7,542 posts)Last edited Wed Jun 5, 2019, 11:34 AM - Edit history (1)
They're still refusing to release docs retained under Trump's spurious claims of privilege. They're only releasing the transition-period docs Trump hasn't refused to provide. Poor title.
Marcuse
(7,506 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)That may mean she has nothing to hide, and doesn't want to get involved in a drawn out legal proceeding fighting something that doesn't matter to her, anyway. If she has to pay the legal bills, which would be staggering, I wouldn't refuse to turn documents over, either.
She's friends w/Ivanka. Maybe that will save her from the wrath of Khan and his name-calling tweets.