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inanna

(3,547 posts)
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 03:02 PM Jun 2019

Dave Hayes says: "Trump is Creating a Utopia"

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Dave Hayes: Christians Must Rethink Their Understand of the End Times Because Trump is Creating a Utopia

June 3, 2019 2:08 pm


Dave Hayes, a self-declared prophet, Christian author, and online activist who is better known as the “Praying Medic,” hosted a livestream on Saturday in which he proclaimed that Christians are going to have to rethink their conception of the End Times because President Trump is on the verge of creating a literal utopia on earth.

Hayes argued that the contemporary interpretation of the events depicted in the book of Revelation, in which things grow worse and more corrupt as the return of Christ nears, is faulty and was crafted at a time when the world was regularly going through massive global conflicts. The many evangelical Christians who have been taught that version of the End Times, Hayes insisted, have been mislead because “now we are past that” and are actually living in a world that is increasingly heading toward utopia, thanks to Trump.

<snipping out the conspiracy stuff>

Hayes went on to recount a supposedly prophetic dream before the 2016 election in which he was shown “a world that would happen if people voted for Trump.”

“In this world, there was no poverty, no homelessness, no lack, no suffering,” he said. “There was lavish abundance everywhere, for everyone. There was no lack, no poverty, no homelessness, everybody was thriving and everybody was blessed. That was a world I saw that was possible if people voted for Trump.”

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http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/dave-hayes-christians-must-rethink-their-understand-of-the-end-times-because-trump-is-creating-a-utopia/

Video at link.

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Bettie

(16,110 posts)
1. My guess was that his dream was about white men and
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 03:04 PM
Jun 2019

the white women who served them with no one else in the frame.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,414 posts)
3. A utopia for rich white fundamentalist heterosexual men maybe
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 03:06 PM
Jun 2019

A dystopia for everybody else.

Also, have to LOL at the corruption line.

jayschool2013

(2,312 posts)
10. More than anything else
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 04:56 PM
Jun 2019

It's the gaslighting that disturbs me most. We can fix problems if we understand what is real. If we can't understand reality — collectively, as a society, as a country — then we can't even agree what problems need to be fixed.

It's the kind of dystopia that has to stop before we begin to address the other vital issues.

Moral Compass

(1,521 posts)
8. Oh sweet Jesus...
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 03:47 PM
Jun 2019

For over 2000 years fundamentalist Christians of many stripes have woven hard to believe prophecy that keyed off of the Book of Revelation. It took only a couple of years of Trump and this yokel is suggesting that all that stuff in Revelation be discarded because Trump will bring a paradise on Earth—a utopia ( this utopia will it be for you and me).

I’ve always had a healthy contempt for fundies as they routinely believe the utterly unbelievable. But now I want to weep because there are people out there that stupid.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
9. I have no idea who is this kook, but he obviously lives in Opposite World.
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 03:50 PM
Jun 2019

Talk about being totally devoid of reality.

tanyev

(42,571 posts)
11. Go ask those devastated by the hurricane in Puerto Rico or the families separated and detained
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 05:44 PM
Jun 2019

at the border, or the farmers and industries getting pummeled by Trump's vanity tariffs how well that's working out, Dave.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
12. There is no lack of suffering under the Rump
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 05:48 PM
Jun 2019

Does it not bother anyone that the Christian evangelical view of utopia is everyone else's view of Hell?

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