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global1

(25,253 posts)
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 03:01 PM Jun 2019

What's In It For The Royal Family To Legitimize Trump & His Family?.....

I just don't get it. Are they doing it for their entertainment? We know that the Brits in general don't like Trump and don't want him in their country. So why would the Royal Family want to piss off their subjects with paying this much attention to the guy that they hate?

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What's In It For The Royal Family To Legitimize Trump & His Family?..... (Original Post) global1 Jun 2019 OP
I think they feel a sense of obligation. That's my take anyway. Coventina Jun 2019 #1
Obligation To What? An Illegitimate President And Con Man?.... global1 Jun 2019 #3
Obligation for the longer-term relationship between our countries. Coventina Jun 2019 #9
Yes, it's the historical and ongoing ties between the two countries which they are recognizing. LonePirate Jun 2019 #16
It has puzzled me as well. smirkymonkey Jun 2019 #19
Yes, along with tradition. elleng Jun 2019 #18
It's their job as Head of State. Kaleva Jun 2019 #2
I dunno, tradition probably. . .or something else. . . DinahMoeHum Jun 2019 #4
LOL dewsgirl Jun 2019 #26
Obviously they respect the office of the President and our country. lunatica Jun 2019 #5
There Are Very Few American's That Would Feel Slighted If .... global1 Jun 2019 #7
They don't really have a choice mcar Jun 2019 #6
PM May invited Trump for a state visit RedParrot Jun 2019 #8
+ struggle4progress Jun 2019 #20
It's a state visit BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #10
They were obligated to entertain him but they wouldn't let him stay at the palace. gldstwmn Jun 2019 #25
+1 dewsgirl Jun 2019 #27
How are they "legitimizing" him? Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2019 #11
By acting as if he is the president of the US jberryhill Jun 2019 #12
Not for them to decide zipplewrath Jun 2019 #15
He *is* POTUS Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2019 #17
Me? I was presuming that was the point intended by the OP jberryhill Jun 2019 #24
DIPLOMACY. Hell the Queen attended lunch with Idi Amin (granted, 6 yrs before his monstrous hlthe2b Jun 2019 #13
Queen hiding in the bushes...yikes, had to be one hell of an unpleasant ride. dewsgirl Jun 2019 #30
They are really rich. Tech Jun 2019 #14
The invitation was made at the behest of PM Theresa May, who invited Trump abt 2 seconds after... Princess Turandot Jun 2019 #21
The Queen doesn't set up state visits. The PM and Parliament are responsible for this. octoberlib Jun 2019 #22
Don't forget... "We" are the ones who put him in office. world wide wally Jun 2019 #23
U.K. needs a BIG trade agreement moondust Jun 2019 #28
Saw pictures if Prince Harry Butterflylady Jun 2019 #29

global1

(25,253 posts)
3. Obligation To What? An Illegitimate President And Con Man?....
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 03:05 PM
Jun 2019

All they had to do was just ignore him. Not invite him to the palace and treat him like royalty. I'm sorry - I just don't get it.

Coventina

(27,121 posts)
9. Obligation for the longer-term relationship between our countries.
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 03:10 PM
Jun 2019

But I do agree with you, I think they should shun him.

But then, I am not a very diplomatic-minded person.

I do know that sometimes going the extra mile is required. But I don't see the benefit with Trump.
He will betray you no matter how kindly you treat him.

LonePirate

(13,426 posts)
16. Yes, it's the historical and ongoing ties between the two countries which they are recognizing.
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 03:19 PM
Jun 2019

The same recognition/offer would have been extended to any US President.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
19. It has puzzled me as well.
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 03:23 PM
Jun 2019

I can't understand it for the life of me. Trump has done nothing but shown the UK contempt and disrespect.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
5. Obviously they respect the office of the President and our country.
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 03:06 PM
Jun 2019

What else would it be? They have already made it clear they don’t like Trump in hundreds of little ways.

mcar

(42,334 posts)
6. They don't really have a choice
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 03:07 PM
Jun 2019

Whether it makes us vomit or not, Dotard is the "leader" of this country - a country that has very close ties with the UK.

 

RedParrot

(112 posts)
8. PM May invited Trump for a state visit
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 03:08 PM
Jun 2019

The Sovereign is the titular head of the government. The speech she reads at the opening of Parliament was written by the government. Any remarks she makes during a state visit by any head of state is also written by the government. Parliament is supreme.

The Duchess of Sussex is not participating in any of the events, supposedly because she is home with her newborn Prince Archie. The Duke of Sussex, aka Prince Harry, is keeping a discreet distance from Trump.

BannonsLiver

(16,396 posts)
10. It's a state visit
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 03:11 PM
Jun 2019

Set up by the prime minister’s govt. As head of state the Queen is required to play a role in hosting foreign dignitaries including Fat Donny. In other words, it’s part of the gig.

In some cases the royal family will go above and beyond the protocols. They had a very warm relationship with the Obamas and hosted them at Windsor as well.

Their duties should not be mistaken for affection. Their role in his visit has been explained repeatedly here over the last week.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
25. They were obligated to entertain him but they wouldn't let him stay at the palace.
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 03:40 PM
Jun 2019

That says it all really.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,414 posts)
11. How are they "legitimizing" him?
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 03:13 PM
Jun 2019

Just because they don't like him and probably think he's a royal (pun intended) screw up doesn't mean that they won't try to be respectful to the office.


Unless, they're proclaiming him to be the next best thing to sliced bread, I'm not following.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
15. Not for them to decide
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 03:19 PM
Jun 2019

He is the President as far as US law is concerned. They're not about to decide otherwise.

hlthe2b

(102,293 posts)
13. DIPLOMACY. Hell the Queen attended lunch with Idi Amin (granted, 6 yrs before his monstrous
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 03:16 PM
Jun 2019

dictatorship emerged). The Romanian leader Nicolae Ceausescu, notorious for his repressive regime and later executed, visited the UK on a state visit with his wife Elena in 1978. It is said the Queen hid in the bushes to avoid further interaction after an unpleasant coach ride.

She's met with Syria's Assad, Zimbabwe's Robert Mugabe, Putin, Zaire's murderous Mobuto Sese Seko, and even more murderous, Indonesia's General Suharto.

I think she's "got this"...

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
21. The invitation was made at the behest of PM Theresa May, who invited Trump abt 2 seconds after...
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 03:34 PM
Jun 2019

...his inauguration, because she was looking for post-Brexit BFFs. He visited in 2017, but that was not a formal state visit. Then May decided to invite him for a state visit now, because he was going to be in France for the D-Day75 remembrances. As the head of state, the queen was obliged to go along with it.

But they're not going out of their way to do something special for FA45. The state visits follow a very specific formula, which varies little from one to the other, regardless of who the visitor is. Most of the events do involve the royal family, for the pomp and circumstances angle that Britain does better than most.

Butterflylady

(3,544 posts)
29. Saw pictures if Prince Harry
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 04:21 PM
Jun 2019

Who made an appearance. He didn't look to happy to be there. English media commented he talked a bit with ivanka but hung back from orange anal.

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