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babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 07:33 AM Jun 2019

Buckingham Palace: it is truly gut wrenching

to see the likes of this admin (Bolton, Sanders, etc.) and this "family" there supposedly representing us when the majority of us would prefer just about anyone else be there.

Hurts my heart and all I can wonder about is what bone-headed unpresidential thing is in store, because you know it's coming.

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Buckingham Palace: it is truly gut wrenching (Original Post) babylonsister Jun 2019 OP
it can't be that bad rampartc Jun 2019 #1
The British and especially the Royal Family knowthe alliance is far more important than this idiot. olegramps Jun 2019 #27
I can't help but to think of Roosevelt and Churchill... Dennis Donovan Jun 2019 #2
FDR's mother was a trip in her own right. LOL. n/t monmouth4 Jun 2019 #3
I love this story! Hot dogs for the queen. babylonsister Jun 2019 #6
...and she had no idea how to eat one! Dennis Donovan Jun 2019 #7
Did he fist bump her? It looks like it on the CNN photo. 33taw Jun 2019 #4
Gut wrenching is right Timmygoat Jun 2019 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author 33taw Jun 2019 #5
Who are the two idiots on the balcony on their phones? Tipperary Jun 2019 #9
He's already managed to insult the mayor MBS Jun 2019 #10
Always the boorish asshole Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2019 #14
His new favorite insult...nasty. wtf. SammyWinstonJack Jun 2019 #18
The British people are clever and resourceful FakeNoose Jun 2019 #11
And then there's this... Gumboot Jun 2019 #17
It's classic! FakeNoose Jun 2019 #19
I'm giving odds... Takket Jun 2019 #12
Good grief Timmygoat Jun 2019 #13
I have the solution (or tincture?) for the problem..... zed nada Jun 2019 #15
Amen Pepsidog Jun 2019 #16
Currently on cnn: "trump shatters diplomatic etiquette..." babylonsister Jun 2019 #20
Palette cleanser sarge43 Jun 2019 #21
Those were the days, my friend ...... MFGsunny Jun 2019 #31
That they were. sarge43 Jun 2019 #33
It's like entertaining Benito Mussolini at a state affair. nt sarabelle Jun 2019 #22
What hurts much more is tRump at the 75th anniversary of D-Day. nt yaesu Jun 2019 #23
Agree, but I found tRump's performance on Memorial Day in Japan to be equally hurtful. pazzyanne Jun 2019 #24
How horrible it would be... SergeStorms Jun 2019 #28
Yes. That is painful sarge43 Jun 2019 #30
Just heard a British commentator say... zed nada Jun 2019 #25
Probably there to observe any surveillance and/or suspicious crowd action -- also to spend our money ancianita Jun 2019 #26
Keep an eye on the Royal silverware C_U_L8R Jun 2019 #29
Wait until Private Bonespurs moondust Jun 2019 #32
Are they being forced to meet with him? jalan48 Jun 2019 #34

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
27. The British and especially the Royal Family knowthe alliance is far more important than this idiot.
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 10:02 AM
Jun 2019

They will be maddeningly aloof and above it all. This is the ultimate snub. He will be disregard as being of such little importance they will tolerate him as the distasteful dutiful visit of a relative's disobedient child. They are know that he is little more than a tempest in a tea pot, full of sound d furry and signifying nothing. They have lived through far worse and know that he will be nothing more significant than a minor fender bender at rush hour. A quick visit to the body shop will be all that is required to right the situation. A stiff upper lip is all that is required.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
2. I can't help but to think of Roosevelt and Churchill...
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 07:44 AM
Jun 2019

...and the comity that used to represent the relationship between the US and UK.

FDR and the First Lady hosted King George VI and Queen Elizabeth (the Queen Mum) at Hyde Park in 1939. FDR's mother, Sara Delano Roosevelt, was appalled that he was going to feed the King and Queen hot dogs at a picnic (The King and Queen were delighted), and was equally appalled when FDR broke out the bar early in the day (again, to the King's delight).

http://www.hvmag.com/Hudson-Valley-Magazine/December-2012/Franklin-Delano-Roosevelt-The-Picnic-That-Won-the-War-the-Royal-Visit-the-Hot-Dog-Summit-of-1939-and-Hyde-Park-on-the-Hudson-Movie/



The most famous hot dogs in history were served at a picnic, right here in the Hudson Valley, on June 11, 1939. What made them famous was not their culinary excellence. It was their diplomatic significance. These hot dogs helped save the Western world from the Nazis.

The world-renowned weiners were dished up at a party in Hyde Park hosted by Franklin Delano and Eleanor Roosevelt (aka the President and First Lady of the United States). Their guests included a well-known British family, the Windsors (aka King George VI and Queen Elizabeth). The royal couple had never before sampled frankfurters, and found them, at first, confounding. “How do you eat this?” the queen whispered to her host. Ignoring Roosevelt’s advice, she decided to use a knife and fork; her husband, however, consumed his the American way. By all accounts, they enjoyed the tubular treats.

The picnic and the events surrounding it were momentous in a number of ways. This was the first time a reigning British monarch had ever set foot on U.S. soil. It came at a time when Europe was on the brink of war. Given these facts, the timing of the al fresco gathering was no mere accident.

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Timmygoat

(779 posts)
8. Gut wrenching is right
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 08:20 AM
Jun 2019

As an ex-pat Brit it saddens me to see Trump, Bolton, Sarah Sanders et al at the palace, I know the British public feel saddened too!
In contrast, have you seen the standing ovation given to Obama in Canada?
I know who the British people would rather have there for a visit, the adore Obama as much as I do!

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

MBS

(9,688 posts)
10. He's already managed to insult the mayor
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 08:21 AM
Jun 2019
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/trump-calls-london-mayor-stone-cold-loser-start-u-k-n1013066?

And he's just getting started.

My heart also is hurting. I re-watched Obama's 2011 speech to Parliament, and it caused me physical pain to contemplate the contrast.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
11. The British people are clever and resourceful
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 08:26 AM
Jun 2019

They are the creators of Monty Python, Downton Abbey and The Beatles among many remarkable achievements. The state visit of a few clowns for a day or two would not be a problem for them.

Takket

(21,577 posts)
12. I'm giving odds...
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 08:28 AM
Jun 2019

He breached protocol in some way with the Queen (walks in front of her, touches her, etc). 2-1

Ivanka takes his place at a high level meeting while he tweets from the bathroom. 4-1

Barron makes a run for Westminster Cathedral while yelling SANCTUARY!!!! 20-1

Drumpf asks the Queen where the Big Macs are 10-1

Timmygoat

(779 posts)
13. Good grief
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 08:30 AM
Jun 2019

He is whining that he cannot watch FOX in the UK, there is good reason, the people did not want it but he wants to see the coverage of his stay in London through the eyes of his FOX buddies.

zed nada

(60 posts)
15. I have the solution (or tincture?) for the problem.....
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 08:36 AM
Jun 2019

...in future. Usual wake up for me this morning, but while I was undergoing my morning half-eye opener I had put on MSNBC and was alarmed into the real world with the banner that Trump's arrival at Buckingham Palace was eminent. Turned sound down and came to my desk to look at DU as I should have initially. Sadly found out about the passing of the great Roky Ericson (sp?) and put on m favorite 13th Floor Elevator cut, "Slip Inside This House." And soon before my eyes the television showed the British Military Band, with black Hussar hats and red jackets marching like the Whos in Whoville in synchrony with Saint Roky and the boys. Trump shows up looking like the anti-Loraxand the door opens for the Queen. He slips inside the house as that part of the lyric plays. I understood everything then it seemed. Roky was right, there really is infinite survival in the High Baptismal flow.

MFGsunny

(2,356 posts)
31. Those were the days, my friend ......
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 12:06 PM
Jun 2019

May those aspects of the Obama days that were both aspirational and inspirational
return/remain in our souls to lend the needed passion, protest and principles for days ahead.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
33. That they were.
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 12:29 PM
Jun 2019

The days when you could do the morning surf and not read about another "fresh hell'. When we had a president and an executive branch that weren't greedy, ignorant, vicious bad seeds.

backatcha

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
28. How horrible it would be...
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 10:04 AM
Jun 2019

if Hair Trump's bone spurs flared up. No one knows the excruciating pain and misery of bone spurs more than our pResident, Donnie Drumpf. The world would be so disappointed if he couldn't make the D-Day ceremonies.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
30. Yes. That is painful
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 11:21 AM
Jun 2019

This is the hail and farewell for the few remaining veterans of that day. They deserve much more than Moron babbling.

zed nada

(60 posts)
25. Just heard a British commentator say...
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 09:51 AM
Jun 2019

..it seemed to him there was a "wider" (presumably meaning more of them) crowd of Trump administration members present than of the Royal family. Let me take a moment to quell my shock. Remember when in National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation when Clark Griswold is crashed by brother-in-law Randy Quaid and his family like a mob of hillbilly cannibals? Was that some psychic documentary mysteriously foreseeing this event? It seemed funnier back then somehow....

ancianita

(36,095 posts)
26. Probably there to observe any surveillance and/or suspicious crowd action -- also to spend our money
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 09:56 AM
Jun 2019

moondust

(19,993 posts)
32. Wait until Private Bonespurs
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 12:23 PM
Jun 2019

represents the United States at the commemoration of D-Day. He probably thinks that stands for Donald Day.

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