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berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
Sun Jun 2, 2019, 09:17 PM Jun 2019

If everything required polling data to show Americans favored before Congress moved on it

We wouldn’t have Obamacare now.
Blacks wouldn’t attend the same schools as whites.
Transgender people would not use bathrooms of their choice.
Marriage would only be for heterosexuals.
Nixon would not have resigned.
Etc
Etc
Etc

It’s time to impeach. 76% of Democrats support impeachment of Trump.

Once it begins, more will support it just like they did when the impeachment of Nixon began.

Just like everyone of the above mentioned issues are now supported by a majority of Americans.

It requires LEADERSHIP to make progress!

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If everything required polling data to show Americans favored before Congress moved on it (Original Post) berni_mccoy Jun 2019 OP
K & R Nevermypresident Jun 2019 #1
Trump and Trumpism is not like anything we have faced in American history. marylandblue Jun 2019 #2
It's utterly moronic to base impeachment on polls. Fuck, how well informed are the American sheeple? triron Jun 2019 #3
Seriously. think4yourself Jun 2019 #4
I don't think we know what the results of impeachment will be. It took republcans to get Nixon to wasupaloopa Jun 2019 #5
Interesting Examples StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #6
DURec leftstreet Jun 2019 #7
Do you imagine all these posts here somehow change anything? Hortensis Jun 2019 #8

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
2. Trump and Trumpism is not like anything we have faced in American history.
Sun Jun 2, 2019, 10:04 PM
Jun 2019

Historical comparisons are great, I use them myself, but this is nothing like Nixon or gay marriage.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
5. I don't think we know what the results of impeachment will be. It took republcans to get Nixon to
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 12:13 AM
Jun 2019

resign.

Congressional republicans will not convict trump. The right knows how bad trump is and they don't care. So I think we can't use the past to predict the future when it comes to impeaching trump. Most of the positive outcome predictions are wishful thinking.

I do support impeachment because more people will learn about trump but I don't think we have the necessary materials or witnesses at this time.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
6. Interesting Examples
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 12:28 AM
Jun 2019

There's a reason Nancy Pelosi didn't call the vote on Obamacare in February 2009. She didn't have the votes and it took her more than a year to get them.

If she had insisted on trying to push it through "because it was the right thing to do," it would have crashed and burned. Instead, she pushed and pulled and cajoled and knocked heads and got that bill through by the skin of its teeth a year later. And it only needed one floor vote, because she knew exactly when to call it and when she called it, it passed. https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212124477

Timing is everything.

And Congress had nothing to do with with blacks attending the same schools as whites. That was the result of a Supreme Court ruling in Brown v. Board of Education in 1954 - a case that was the culmination of more than years of careful planning, painstaking strategizing and numerous previous cases. Charles Hamilton Houston and Thurgood Marshall mapped out this strategy, knowing it would take decades - and took much heat from people demanding that they moved faster and attack Plessy v. Ferguson head on. But they knew that, if they tried to overturn Plessy without the proper foundation, it would be upheld and further cemented into law for decades, if not centuries. I discuss it more in depth here: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212115426

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. Do you imagine all these posts here somehow change anything?
Mon Jun 3, 2019, 09:15 AM
Jun 2019

Pelosi's speaker. She and her team will act when they're ready.
I'd say deal with both realities, but of course all these OPs on DU seem to suggest you think you are...

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