Re Virginia Beach - have they ID the shooter yet? n/t

[malaise]

[Cattledog]

1. DeWayne Craddock

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/01/us/virginia-beach-suspect/index.html

[tblue37]

4. More info on him:

https://heavy.com/news/2019/05/dewayne-craddock/

[malaise]

5. Thanks

[Skittles]

2. yes

he will be representing all black men soon

[CurtEastPoint]

6. Sadly, that was my first thought, too.

[Captain Stern]

7. You're right. Unfortunately, that's pretty much how it goes.

Black guy commits a horrific crime......."Just another example of a violent black person...no surprise"

Undocumented/Illegal/Whatever Immigrant commits a horrific crime........"Here we go again. Keep these people out!"

Muslim commits a horrific crime.........."Haven't we had enough? 'They' just don't belong here."

White guy (like me) commits a horrific crime........" Hey, now. We can't paint all white guys with the same broad brush. That just isn't reasonable. Most of them are really good people. It would be silly to blame all of them for the actions of one individual."

[Skittles]

15. you forgot women

they're "hysterical" and "cannot control their emotions"

[Tipperary]

18. Well, given all the abuse women take...we seem to be pretty good at controlling our emotions.

Not too many commit mass shootings.

[Skittles]

20. correct

[Captain Stern]

25. I didn't forget.

For the most part, women pretty much are 'hysterical', and can't control their emotions.

I kid, I kid.

I absolutely should have included that stereotype also.

I didn't think to, because for the most part, it's not women that are out there shooting up workplaces, or schools, or concerts, or anyplace.

[onetexan]

29. There w be stereotypes by the RW, but do keep in mind the

Majority of mass murderers & serial killers happen to be white. The issue here of course has nothing to do with race or ethnicity, rather it was the action of a disturbed individual in need of help. That and the fact the availability of guns contributed to enabling this man to cause such violence.

[Captain Stern]

30. I get what you're saying, but there's more than one issue at hand here.

Right wing stereotypes, disturbed individuals in need of help, availability of guns.....we've got a full plate.

Fortunately we're part of a community that can actually discuss each, and any, of those issues without losing sight of the others.

[malaise]

8. Indeed

What a mess - the 'it could be worse' meme disgusts me. Twelve dead- four critical - worse than what for those families?

[bronxiteforever]

10. +1 Outstanding point. It's part of the death of empathy

The GOP has been selling its lack of empathy value to us for decades now. We accept thousands of gun deaths and always say it could be worse. We need to regulate guns to get out of this hell.To quote Tina Turner

Out of the ruins, out from the wreckage
Can't make the same mistakes this time
And I wonder when we are ever gonna change?
Living under the fear, till nothing else remains
We don't need another hero,
We don't need to know the way home
All we want is life beyond the Thunderdome

[malaise]

11. Nice post

[bronxiteforever]

13. Thanks!

[Anon-C]

26. ...

[smirkymonkey]

14. Funny how that never happens to white men.

Especially when most mass shooters happen to be white men. But when ONE black guy goes off the rails...

[Skittles]

16. that would be white male privilege

they are complex human beings, you know, unlike.....the rest of us

[wellst0nev0ter]

21. I was wondering why the police gunned him down

instead of taking him into custody like white shooters.

[Skittles]

22. he actually shot a policeman

saved by a bullet-proof vest

[MFM008]

28. right

Thank God it wasn't another bloated white maggot humper they can all deny.....................

[honest.abe]

3. Engineer who worked there. Apparently fired the day before.

Went postal.

We were just in VA Beach over the holiday. It was a fun weekend. What a contrast to this event.

[malaise]

9. Guns kill

Deal with the guns

[yardwork]

19. News updates state that he was not fired. He was a current employee.

[honest.abe]

23. Yeah, I see that now. I guess it was false rumor floating around.

Thanks for the correction.

[yardwork]

24. Early news reports did say that he'd been fired. Later corrected.

[jberryhill]

27. Well, pretty sure he's fired now

[jambo101]

12. A shame

We read of mass shooting after mass shooting yet nothing is ever done to prevent the next one.

[Skittles]

17. gun humpers won

mass shootings in America are now SOP