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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,996 posts)
Fri May 24, 2019, 08:31 PM May 2019

Trump Needs to Go 'Into Psychotherapy', Says Howard Stern: He Was 'Traumatized' by His Childhood

Donald Trump should consider going to therapy for his mental health, according to his friend Howard Stern.

“From what I know of Donald and his relationship with his father, it sounds traumatic,” the radio talk show host told CNN’s Anderson Cooper in an interview, set to air on Saturday.

“It sounds like the father was very domineering, the father expected a lot from him and military school. You read these drips and drabs and you go, ‘Wow,’ I can assure you he’s been traumatized,” Stern continued. “Donald, his level of narcissism is so strong and he has troubles with empathy, we know that.”

Stern added, “I wish he’d go into psychotherapy. I’d be so proud of him if he did. He would probably flourish.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-needs-to-go-into-psychotherapy-says-howard-stern-he-was-traumatized-by-his-childhood/ar-AABRt9R?li=BBnbcA1

Oh poor little Richie Rich.

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Trump Needs to Go 'Into Psychotherapy', Says Howard Stern: He Was 'Traumatized' by His Childhood (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2019 OP
Stern is a big believer in therapy n/t TexasBushwhacker May 2019 #1
At his age it's way to late. Delmette2.0 May 2019 #2
Also, his level is too high for much good to come out of it. BigmanPigman May 2019 #4
Honestly, I do believe that Trump's childhood was very traumatic, something no child should have to WhiskeyGrinder May 2019 #3
It is way to late for therapy to help him. Phoenix61 May 2019 #10
He is the only child in American ever to grow up with a DeminPennswoods May 2019 #22
"He is the only child in American ever to grow up with a domineering parent?" WhiskeyGrinder May 2019 #23
Should have made my subject "Is he..." DeminPennswoods May 2019 #38
you can't teach an old dog with small hands new tricks Demonaut May 2019 #5
If you think nothing is wrong why in the world would you entertain therapy. This interview is on UniteFightBack May 2019 #6
Oh PLease Me. May 2019 #7
Trump's just a bad seed sop May 2019 #8
I disagree. And I'm a psychoanalyst. nolabear May 2019 #13
100% agree on both points. Caliman73 May 2019 #16
As Sigmund Freud allegedly noted, "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar." sop May 2019 #18
Interesting StarfishSaver May 2019 #21
This may be an unpopular opinion, but I happen to agree with you. smirkymonkey May 2019 #31
Trump traumatizes ME. Ohiogal May 2019 #9
Ain't that the truth? watoos May 2019 #36
The Devil (Trump) is at best a malignant narcissist and worst a psychopath CousinIT May 2019 #11
+1000 smirkymonkey May 2019 #32
Every day with Trump soryang May 2019 #12
Stern, What about his mother or saidsimplesimon May 2019 #14
Narcissism is not fixable. It is a brain disorder lunatica May 2019 #15
That would as effective as Tony Soprano getting psychotherapy. no_hypocrisy May 2019 #17
No amount of therapy Meowmee May 2019 #19
Bronx cheer. Mc Mike May 2019 #20
Donald Trump is an evil asshole. dalton99a May 2019 #24
I have a bachelor's in psych meow2u3 May 2019 #25
Stern is a turd. He built his career on cheap sensationalism. Firestorm49 May 2019 #26
Thank you. Why Stern is given any credibility is beyond me still_one May 2019 #30
Thank you! I almost hate to kick this thread. MH1 May 2019 #35
+1 MrsCoffee May 2019 #41
Narcissism is very resistant to therapy, and so are the other disorders that make tblue37 May 2019 #27
Sorry Howard. democratisphere May 2019 #28
F**k Howard Stern. Trying to garner sympathy for trump as a traumatized child by his father still_one May 2019 #29
Stern should be in psychotherapy. MrsCoffee May 2019 #33
He is and has been. nt UniteFightBack May 2019 #39
No, he needs to go into prison. Tanuki May 2019 #34
He can "flourish" in prison, take up oil painting or something sop May 2019 #37
To all the Howard Stern haters ....I LOVE Howard Stern...always did and always will. UniteFightBack May 2019 #40
He needs to be in prison. MoonRiver May 2019 #42

BigmanPigman

(51,594 posts)
4. Also, his level is too high for much good to come out of it.
Fri May 24, 2019, 08:51 PM
May 2019

He has several severe personality disorders which are very difficult to treat. Stern went into therapy for narcissism and it helped him a lot. He is older than most who seek help for these disorders but he really wanted to get better and he worked on it. The fucking moron is more than a narcissist, he is a malignant narcissist on top of being an incredible sociopath as well as a sadist. He doesn't want to get help and even if he did his problems are severe and probably would only have limited success with intense, ongoing therapy as a treatment.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,351 posts)
3. Honestly, I do believe that Trump's childhood was very traumatic, something no child should have to
Fri May 24, 2019, 08:48 PM
May 2019

go through. Therapy might make him a better person, and possibly even a better parent, but I'm pretty sure it's too late to make him a better president.

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
10. It is way to late for therapy to help him.
Fri May 24, 2019, 09:53 PM
May 2019

Dementia has taken hold and his ability to process new information is gone.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
22. He is the only child in American ever to grow up with a
Sat May 25, 2019, 07:59 AM
May 2019

domineering parent? Trump was defective from the start.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,351 posts)
23. "He is the only child in American ever to grow up with a domineering parent?"
Sat May 25, 2019, 08:50 AM
May 2019

What? Of course not. Is that how my post came across?

"Trump was defective from the start."

Could be. His childhood certainly didn't help him at all. If he had been raised by warm, loving parents of modest means, he would certainly be a different person today. Perhaps a run-of-the-mill psychopath, the way other presidents are described to be.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
38. Should have made my subject "Is he..."
Sat May 25, 2019, 01:38 PM
May 2019

Plenty of kids grow up with domineering and/or demanding parents. Few of them turn out like Trump. I think his 23 chromosomes combined in a bad way.

sop

(10,189 posts)
8. Trump's just a bad seed
Fri May 24, 2019, 09:15 PM
May 2019

Not to put too fine a point on it, but folks spend too much time psychoanalyzing the asshole. Trump would have probably turned out to be the same self-absorbed, sadistic, lying, insane POS had he been raised by Ward and June Cleaver. Some people are just evil.

nolabear

(41,963 posts)
13. I disagree. And I'm a psychoanalyst.
Sat May 25, 2019, 12:04 AM
May 2019

Well, a retired one. I don’t think he can be helped now. He doesn’t want to be helped. But his personality is as much a mix of nature and nurture as all of ours are. No telling how many possible permutations there are.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
16. 100% agree on both points.
Sat May 25, 2019, 02:08 AM
May 2019

Trump at this point is likely unreachable. He lacks the insight or desire to do the work necessary for change. HOWEVER, it is possible to change at ANY age although it becomes more difficult as grow accustomed to the patterns of interaction and behavior in our lives. The keys are having a level of understanding that your choices and attitudes are not working for you, and the motivation to do the hard work it requires.

I think people mistake assessment for making excuses. Professionals do not analyze, assess, and diagnose people to make excuses but to try to understand and map out a plan to help that person change if they so desire.

sop

(10,189 posts)
18. As Sigmund Freud allegedly noted, "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."
Sat May 25, 2019, 07:30 AM
May 2019

Last edited Sat May 25, 2019, 08:35 AM - Edit history (1)

But, you're both probably correct. Trump is a seething mass of psychoses in need of professional help. I guess Nancy was right: all he needs is an intervention, a little down time and some prayer.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
31. This may be an unpopular opinion, but I happen to agree with you.
Sat May 25, 2019, 11:56 AM
May 2019

I honestly believe he was born bad. From throwing rocks at the infant next door to his sociopathic activities as a child, I think some people just come into this world evil. His upbringing only exacerbated the problems that were already there. He is an un-redeemable POS and always will be. There is no fixing him or helping him. He is beyond help and will never change or become a better person.

He doesn't want to change. And wanting to change is the one thing that must be necessary in order to benefit from psychiatric help.

CousinIT

(9,245 posts)
11. The Devil (Trump) is at best a malignant narcissist and worst a psychopath
Fri May 24, 2019, 10:41 PM
May 2019

Therapy won't help because a malignant narcissist would never believe that they need it. Quite the contrary.

Psychopathy is a brain malfunction. Synapses are misfiring or not firing at all. fMRI would show this. Also subjecting him to the Hare Psychopathy Checklist would reveal some interesting data.

Therapy can't "cure" something that isn't curable. His mental issues are likely pathological - and in addition, his privileged childhood further reinforced them. That's the scientific explanation for what's wrong with him.

The more religious one is that he's just plain E V I L. That's why some people call him The Devil. If you believe in all that, satan was supposed to come destroy this place. And if there is such a thing going on, it's Trump.

Either way, "therapy" isn't going to fix it.

Trump is the kind of "person" you lock up in a padded cell with a straightjacket and a faceguard like Hannibal Lecter. Forever. He does not belong in civilized society. He is a danger to himself and the World. And too utterly full of himself and/or lacking empathy or a conscience to even give a fuck.

Therapy will NOT fix this.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
15. Narcissism is not fixable. It is a brain disorder
Sat May 25, 2019, 01:44 AM
May 2019

not a psychological one. It doesn’t happen because of abuse or childhood trauma. You are born with it. Maybe it’s a genetic disorder, but that still remains to be seen.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
19. No amount of therapy
Sat May 25, 2019, 07:43 AM
May 2019

Would help a malignant narcissist, sociopath, traitor/ criminal and fascist. The emphasis on fascist and sociopath. He is insane as well in my mind. Just like it won’t help others with similar problems such as his hard core followers. Plenty of people go through much worse and they do not end up like this, he is hateful, ignorant and a dangerous & deranged person imo.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
20. Bronx cheer.
Sat May 25, 2019, 07:52 AM
May 2019

Affluenza victim. But always a blubbering victim.

Many many psychotherapists have advocated for Rump to get a transfrontal administered via icepick. Come to think of it, Nicholson's character in Cuckoo's Nest was playing crazy to stay out of prison, too.

Coincidence, no doubt.

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
25. I have a bachelor's in psych
Sat May 25, 2019, 11:28 AM
May 2019

and my opinion is that Trump is too far gone, largely because of his advanced chronological age*, to benefit from psychotherapy.

A younger narcissist might benefit slightly by behavior therapy, but a narcisistic and psychopathic senior, not so much.

*Chronological age, as opposed to emotional age, which never reached 1st grade.

Firestorm49

(4,035 posts)
26. Stern is a turd. He built his career on cheap sensationalism.
Sat May 25, 2019, 11:31 AM
May 2019

He’s about as credible a source of reliable thought as Palin.

MH1

(17,600 posts)
35. Thank you! I almost hate to kick this thread.
Sat May 25, 2019, 12:04 PM
May 2019

Why any intelligent person would pay any attention to Stern, I have no idea.

I was lucky enough to be exposed to his vileness very early on in my awareness of his radio show. Not long enough to form any attachment to his humor, if that was even possible. Seemed to me he was shit-stirring in a horrible way that would cause people to get hurt. Turned him off and have avoided him ever since.

On edit because I clicked too soon: It is amusing that someone like Stern is trying to psycho-analyze someone like Trump. Falls under "takes one to know one"?

tblue37

(65,377 posts)
27. Narcissism is very resistant to therapy, and so are the other disorders that make
Sat May 25, 2019, 11:32 AM
May 2019

up what is called the dark triad.

still_one

(92,199 posts)
29. F**k Howard Stern. Trying to garner sympathy for trump as a traumatized child by his father
Sat May 25, 2019, 11:37 AM
May 2019

Trump was always an asshole,

So is Howard Stern, another exploiter

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
33. Stern should be in psychotherapy.
Sat May 25, 2019, 12:01 PM
May 2019

Maybe he can do something about his misogyny. Why do the misogynists stick together? Who the fuck wants to see Trump flourish after all of the horrible things he has done to this country?

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