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pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
Thu May 23, 2019, 09:48 PM May 2019

Nadler just said on Rachel's show that Mueller wants to testify mostly in private,

because he doesn't want to be part of a political spectacle.

HOWEVER, Nadler seemed to indicate that if that happened, there would be a TRANSCRIPT made public.

I wonder if there could be an advantage to that, with the R's less likely to even turn up, once they knew they couldn't use their five minutes for grandstanding.

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Nadler just said on Rachel's show that Mueller wants to testify mostly in private, (Original Post) pnwmom May 2019 OP
It would take away the opportunity for the Zoonart May 2019 #1
Our time, our dime Corgigal May 2019 #2
We pay for the federal courts but their proceedings aren't televised StarfishSaver May 2019 #14
Or .... LenaBaby61 May 2019 #3
I don't know what to think of this. madaboutharry May 2019 #4
Patriots testify in public C_U_L8R May 2019 #5
Public testimony is not an indicia of patriotism StarfishSaver May 2019 #15
The Watergate Investigators had the advantage of getting information in extensive, closed empedocles May 2019 #6
All of the labyrinthian twists and turns in the law drive me nuts. panader0 May 2019 #7
No. Fuck that. Testify in public for us all to see. W_HAMILTON May 2019 #8
Muller testifying in private? people May 2019 #9
As someone pointed out. If you study history, most of the Blue_true May 2019 #16
Many Watergate hearings - and almost all of the impeachment hearings - were conducted in private StarfishSaver May 2019 #17
Most of the testimony in the Watergate hearings was done in private. StarfishSaver May 2019 #20
That works for me Andy823 May 2019 #10
testifying in private only makes the "spectacle" worse Takket May 2019 #11
I would allow Mueller to testify in private. Blue_true May 2019 #12
Apparently people aren't really interested in information. They want a show StarfishSaver May 2019 #18
I think it could be better StarfishSaver May 2019 #13
Yeah, I am really disappointed by some of the posts that I have read. Blue_true May 2019 #19

Zoonart

(11,873 posts)
1. It would take away the opportunity for the
Thu May 23, 2019, 09:53 PM
May 2019

Thugs to grand stand and twist his testimony and impune his motives.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
14. We pay for the federal courts but their proceedings aren't televised
Thu May 23, 2019, 10:28 PM
May 2019

We just get transcripts.

And that's all appellate courts get when considering appeals - because all they need are the facts.

LenaBaby61

(6,976 posts)
3. Or ....
Thu May 23, 2019, 09:55 PM
May 2019

thuglicans can say that Mueller's hiding something, and ashamed to show his face in public. You KNOW that some thuglicans and especially Fatso-in-chief will say that the transcripts are FAKE that are released to the public, because you can't trust Democrats.

Not a good reason for Mueller to want to testify behind closed doors IMHO.

This country is fighting for it's LIFE and Mueller's worried about his testimony turning into a political spectacle

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
6. The Watergate Investigators had the advantage of getting information in extensive, closed
Thu May 23, 2019, 10:00 PM
May 2019

sessions, with less of the partisan bickerings/obstacles that a public proceeding entailed. [[Note the several Watergate timelines to verify how long the closed sessions lasted, making bipartisan headway more possible].

panader0

(25,816 posts)
7. All of the labyrinthian twists and turns in the law drive me nuts.
Thu May 23, 2019, 10:02 PM
May 2019

There is right and wrong. Anyone with half a brain can see it.

people

(627 posts)
9. Muller testifying in private?
Thu May 23, 2019, 10:03 PM
May 2019

Those of us who saw the Watergate hearings (and that includes Barr and Trump who probably saw them) know how compelling live testimony is. A transcript of his testimony will not have any weight with the general public and is a way to bury its impact. Does Nadler have to agree to this? Why should Nadler accept this condition?

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
16. As someone pointed out. If you study history, most of the
Thu May 23, 2019, 10:29 PM
May 2019

groundwork that brought about breakthroughs in the Watergate situation took place in private sessions.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
17. Many Watergate hearings - and almost all of the impeachment hearings - were conducted in private
Thu May 23, 2019, 10:29 PM
May 2019
 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
20. Most of the testimony in the Watergate hearings was done in private.
Thu May 23, 2019, 10:39 PM
May 2019

And the people who testified in public whom you remember as compelling were fact witnesses were offering direct testimony about their involvement in activities related to Watergate. They weren't investigators sharing information with the committees. Any such investigatory information was shared with the Senate off-camera in private sessions.

And the Impeachment hearings weren't televised. No witness testified in those hearings in public.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
10. That works for me
Thu May 23, 2019, 10:04 PM
May 2019

and I agree that if the republicans can't try and make a "joke" out of the hearing by being jerks, there will probably be less of them show up.

Takket

(21,589 posts)
11. testifying in private only makes the "spectacle" worse
Thu May 23, 2019, 10:05 PM
May 2019

testify in public and allow the people to make up their own minds. don't leave it to the dog waggers to interpret for us.

and a transcript is insufficient. it won't convey body language, emotions behind words, etc.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
12. I would allow Mueller to testify in private.
Thu May 23, 2019, 10:26 PM
May 2019

The key is to get accurate information.

If republicans don't show up, hold the hearings anyway, Speaker Pelosi could set that condition and call the republican tactics extrodinary measures that warranted suspension of some House rules.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
13. I think it could be better
Thu May 23, 2019, 10:27 PM
May 2019

Just the facts.

But people want a show, so they're throwing fits about it - which is very revealing.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
19. Yeah, I am really disappointed by some of the posts that I have read.
Thu May 23, 2019, 10:35 PM
May 2019

People want a show, open hearings on sensitive issues, an impeachment show in Congress. They seem to be clueless about the setbacks all that can entail.

If Mueller comes testify in private and give up the goods on Trump, democrats will have actionable material for calling witnesses and putting them under oath. It was the private hearings that broke open Watergate, as one person wisely pointed out. Dean, Butterfield? When they testified in public, they had no choice but to tell the truth.

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