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TexasTowelie

(112,347 posts)
Tue May 21, 2019, 04:19 AM May 2019

Christian Supremacist

by ED HEINZELMAN


I’ll admit that I hadn’t heard that term until this morning. And it was being used in relation to the groups and people who are responsible for pushing through the onerous anti-abortion laws in many of the Republican states…including Wisconsin. In that context it made a lot of sense to me.

Obviously when I googled the term a lot of weird stuff popped up. So the articles about Vice President Mike Pence being called a Christian Supremacist were also a surprise. And from my observation of his, what should we say, co-existence with the president, I can understand that label. Of course the vice president defended himself…similarly to Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh and State Supreme Court Justice-elect Hagedorn…he accused people of attacking his faith. He defended his Christianity. But I don’t think anyone was attacking his Christianity. It’s that second term…the Supremacist thing…and I didn’t see any mention of that by the vice president. I don’t sense any denial there.

“Any time I’m criticized for my belief in Jesus Christ, I just breath a prayer of praise.”

“This is a nation of faith,” Pence said. “We’ll continue to stand for the things that we believe in.”

If Christian Supremacy is a thing…it becomes easier to understand the general lack of societal anger around the anti-Muslim policies that continue to come out of the White House, the limited concern around the increasing anti-Semitic attacks around the nation, the twisting of legitimate concerns about the actions of Israel, and our moves to legitimize Israel’s continued occupation of captured territories. And isn’t the continued pressure to institutionalize the tenets in the Bible into US law, a Christian version of Sharia??

Can we allow ourselves to become a nation where we will support the First Amendment Rights around Freedom of Religion as long as it’s ‘our religion’?

Read more: http://bloggingblue.com/2019/05/christian-supremacist/
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True Blue American

(17,988 posts)
4. Pence said all of that?
Tue May 21, 2019, 04:34 AM
May 2019

Or just the first part?

As a long time person of faith, I am slowly but surely losing it. Watching how faith is so distorted by so many.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,027 posts)
9. I do wish OPs would put excerpts inside excerpt tags, even if the whole OP is an excerpt.
Tue May 21, 2019, 08:01 AM
May 2019

DU worked hard to make such tools available. Use them, shall we?

HuskyOffset

(890 posts)
12. I agree!
Tue May 21, 2019, 08:08 AM
May 2019

Plus, it's pretty easy:

DU worked hard to make such tools available. Use them, shall we?


I also enclose the excerpt inside a blockquote, which gives a nice effect:

DU worked hard to make such tools available. Use them, shall we?

True Blue American

(17,988 posts)
13. For those on a tablet or IPAD
Tue May 21, 2019, 10:11 AM
May 2019

Putting an except in is almost impossible with Stylus.

Maybe you could help us with that? When I try it simply copies one word.

Videos are no problem. That may not be the trouble for the poster, for me, it is.

Thanks.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
5. Seems like a largely unnecessary new term to define...
Tue May 21, 2019, 04:41 AM
May 2019

what many have thought of Christianity all along. Christianity and Islam are the two major evangelical religions out there that historically have had no qualms about enforcing their beliefs, going to war if necessary.

Often, of course, this drive to convert the heathens has been just an excuse for empire building.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,027 posts)
11. Many religions fight, incl Hindus & Sikhs. Even Burmese Buddhists, for heaven's sake!
Tue May 21, 2019, 08:06 AM
May 2019

The two most salient points about religion are

1) Almost everyone has religion imposed on them by parents and community. Extremely rare to convert in adulthood short of doing so for marriage.

2) Political leaders, generals, despots, elected governments, and dominant personalities have frequently used and abused religion for millennia to control and dominate people for personal gain and power.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
14. Fight, yes-- people fight all the time and if it wasn't over religion...
Tue May 21, 2019, 10:38 AM
May 2019

it would be something else. But, here we're talking about a mission to spread the Word by force.

And of course religion is used for gain, as is anything else they can use for leverage.

keithbvadu2

(36,869 posts)
6. Which version of Christianity?
Tue May 21, 2019, 06:47 AM
May 2019
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/americas-true-history-of-religious-tolerance-61312684/?no-ist= ;

Madison also made a point that any believer of any religion should understand: that the government sanction of a religion was, in essence, a threat to religion. "Who does not see," he wrote, "that the same authority which can establish Christianity, in exclusion of all other Religions, may establish with the same ease any particular sect of Christians, in exclusion of all other Sects?" Madison was writing from his memory of Baptist ministers being arrested in his native Virginia.

meow2u3

(24,767 posts)
15. It's evangelical supremacy, not Christian supremacy
Tue May 21, 2019, 11:02 AM
May 2019

White evangelical extremists' first order, if they had their way, would be to outlaw the Catholic faith. They always hated Catholics, despite having used them to shore up support against abortion, to the point that RW evangelicals falsely accuse the Catholic faith of being the "whore of Babylon."
All because those fundies read and understand the Bible the same way a functionally illiterate 2nd grader does.

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