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Flynn told Mueller that of multiple instances of attempted influence on his testimony from Trump (Original Post) triron May 2019 OP
And the Democrats will do what with this? manor321 May 2019 #1
Bingo ! maybe subpoena him? Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #2
Maybe they will read the charges on the House floor Va Lefty May 2019 #3
HAHAHAHAHAHA Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #16
So what. Mueller knew this and did nothing. dem4decades May 2019 #4
Mueller has some explaining to do Baitball Blogger May 2019 #10
Yeah like why did he fail his country? dem4decades May 2019 #14
So, let's say he knows a lot and could recommend action. Why doesn't he just Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #17
Why didn't he just say THE PRESIDENT OBSTRUCTED JUSTICE? dem4decades May 2019 #21
Maybe he did and it's been redacted? n/t Mr.Bill May 2019 #22
Thank you. pazzyanne May 2019 #38
I'm betting that is exactly what happened malaise May 2019 #51
Rachel Maddow is talking right now about Flynn. Mr.Bill May 2019 #53
I hear ya. Things sure would have been different, huh. Don't you think Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #23
I suspect he's still working on the counter-intelligence piece of his work pnwmom May 2019 #46
At this point it is not at all certain that DURHAM D May 2019 #61
Point 1 he is in law enforcement. -- Normally attracts conservatives LiberalArkie May 2019 #29
What precisely does "conservative" mean in each of those 3 cases? DemocracyMouse May 2019 #31
Biggest, I guess mistake of my life, thinking he was going to be the truth. Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #32
Count me in that group too. dem4decades May 2019 #65
Point 4 -- Nothing about Trump is conservative. pnwmom May 2019 #47
he didnt fail he did his job which was limited... samnsara May 2019 #30
funny, not ha-ha, how many times we and journalists everywhere said "oh, no worries, Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #34
Thank you. pazzyanne May 2019 #39
Yup ismnotwasm May 2019 #43
Yep Catherine Vincent May 2019 #26
How do you know he did nothing? CaptainTruth May 2019 #27
Thanks. I needed something to hope for about now. Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #35
Thank you. pazzyanne May 2019 #40
No, he laid out all the instances of obstruction, mentioning impeachment 20 times, pnwmom May 2019 #28
Thank you. pazzyanne May 2019 #42
cool. thought we were on opposite ends. Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #44
Looks like we should hear from Mr. Flynn. Mueller will also freely talk about this. Good this is UniteFightBack May 2019 #5
Maybe now we get a clue as to why the judge wouldn't sentence Flynn in Dec Raven123 May 2019 #6
Didn't he also mention the word "treason"? - one of these judges did, I can't keep up Leghorn21 May 2019 #8
I think you are correct. He must been aghast at what he read. Raven123 May 2019 #12
Got it - Judge Emmet Sullivan, last December: Leghorn21 May 2019 #15
Rachel Maddow is opening her show with this. BigmanPigman May 2019 #41
The same Judge that issued today's ruling. gldstwmn May 2019 #48
g, I have no answers to your questions, but I so wholeheartedly agree that Flynn is the biggest, Leghorn21 May 2019 #57
Well apparently I somehow missed gldstwmn May 2019 #58
Great GREAT NEWS, t! Rump LOVED this guy!! Wait till this hits big, what a no good lousy Leghorn21 May 2019 #7
What? He hardly knew him :) Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #18
Paging Devin Nunes... Freethinker65 May 2019 #9
The smart money's on that one. gldstwmn May 2019 #49
Thank you, Gen. Flynn. Kid Berwyn May 2019 #11
except for MF45 Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #19
Compared to the other shit he did? Flynn's no hero. gldstwmn May 2019 #50
Mr "Lock Her Up". Boomerproud May 2019 #62
I can't wait to hear more about Flynn's case. I hope we actually gldstwmn May 2019 #64
Possible farmed off case? Glimmer of Hope May 2019 #13
You mean just the OOJ part? Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #20
Who the hell knows? This one came out of left field gldstwmn May 2019 #54
i'd say Mueller unsealed this bc he too is fed up with house inaction. Kurt V. May 2019 #24
Wouldn't he have to run it by Barr first? gldstwmn May 2019 #52
Oh noes, your main man FLIPPED on ya, LOSER. What have you got to say for yourself??! Leghorn21 May 2019 #25
Still my favorite... gldstwmn May 2019 #55
NO COLLUSION! NO COLLUSION! Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2019 #33
God bless 🙏 Judge Flood MattP May 2019 #36
Wasn't it Trump's lawyer watoos May 2019 #37
Yep this one is huge malaise May 2019 #45
Trump's gldstwmn May 2019 #56
Dowd I think? watoos May 2019 #59
This is who Lawrence O'Donnell is betting on. Glimmer of Hope May 2019 #60
Hahaha... Maybe we'll get a Gif of that. gldstwmn May 2019 #63
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
17. So, let's say he knows a lot and could recommend action. Why doesn't he just
Thu May 16, 2019, 07:28 PM
May 2019

pick up the phone. Is that against the law?? Maybe he's waiting to quit? He hasn't yet has he?

dem4decades

(11,296 posts)
21. Why didn't he just say THE PRESIDENT OBSTRUCTED JUSTICE?
Thu May 16, 2019, 07:47 PM
May 2019

Wouldn't that have solved the damn problem?

But no, Bob Mueller had to let the Republicans and the Russians win. Fuck him.

Mr.Bill

(24,300 posts)
53. Rachel Maddow is talking right now about Flynn.
Thu May 16, 2019, 09:39 PM
May 2019

She says a Federal judge has demanded to see all redacted material related to Flynn by the end of the month.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
23. I hear ya. Things sure would have been different, huh. Don't you think
Thu May 16, 2019, 08:09 PM
May 2019

Barr probably ordered him to not reach a conclusion though? My thought is that he was told to STOP. And, Mueller, chain of command type, stopped.

If Barr and Trump "allow" Mueller to testify, I bet he will not have any bombshells, for sure. Think Junior will be there full steam ahead, propping up his dad and saying "enough is enough". Of course I almost agree with that - get off the pot and impeach based on Mueller obstruction findings.

Why do you think he didn't reach a conclusion - with recommended charges? Just because he's a repuke at heart?

Just had a flash - Mueller may be physically tied up in a warehouse somewhere.

pnwmom

(108,979 posts)
46. I suspect he's still working on the counter-intelligence piece of his work
Thu May 16, 2019, 09:25 PM
May 2019

which could well be more than half of his job -- and counter-intelligence findings usually must remain secret.

Somewhere, a long time ago, I read an analysis that said we might only ever see the tip of the iceberg of what they found, because of the secrecy of counter-intelligence work. But the House and Senate intelligence committees should be able to see everything. That's what's so unusual now -- to have the Trump administration withholding counter-intelligence findings from the Gang of Eight and the Intelligence Committees.

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
61. At this point it is not at all certain that
Thu May 16, 2019, 10:31 PM
May 2019

Mueller actually is/was involved in a counter-intelligence investigation. Rachel said such tonight and Adam Schiff doesn't know if there is/was one.

My guess is that Rod Rosenstein deep-sixed it.

LiberalArkie

(15,716 posts)
29. Point 1 he is in law enforcement. -- Normally attracts conservatives
Thu May 16, 2019, 08:35 PM
May 2019

Point 2 he is a Republican -- normally conservative

Point 3 he is a prosecutor -- normally conservative

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
31. What precisely does "conservative" mean in each of those 3 cases?
Thu May 16, 2019, 08:42 PM
May 2019

The word is now meaningless and has been sunce the Republicans stopped conserving anything – nature, the Constitution, decency and decorum and family-friendly policies...

pnwmom

(108,979 posts)
47. Point 4 -- Nothing about Trump is conservative.
Thu May 16, 2019, 09:26 PM
May 2019

Trying to destroy the system from within isn't conservative.

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
30. he didnt fail he did his job which was limited...
Thu May 16, 2019, 08:41 PM
May 2019

..i think we all put a lot of our own unrealistic hopes into what Mueller as gonna produce. He did 100% what he was supposed to do and then he handed it off to the next phase..which we are in now.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
34. funny, not ha-ha, how many times we and journalists everywhere said "oh, no worries,
Thu May 16, 2019, 08:48 PM
May 2019

Mueller's probably thinking about that, working on that..." Came across an old article and there was SO much in there (probably on the list of collusion and obstruction stuff Mueller looking at). JHC he hired the BEST group of prosecutors in the business. Must be why they are hinting - it's all a bunch of bullshit.

CaptainTruth

(6,592 posts)
27. How do you know he did nothing?
Thu May 16, 2019, 08:33 PM
May 2019

How do you know it wasn't part of the 12 unknown cases he referred for prosecution?

pnwmom

(108,979 posts)
28. No, he laid out all the instances of obstruction, mentioning impeachment 20 times,
Thu May 16, 2019, 08:35 PM
May 2019

and said it was Congress's job. Which it is.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
5. Looks like we should hear from Mr. Flynn. Mueller will also freely talk about this. Good this is
Thu May 16, 2019, 06:31 PM
May 2019

setting up quite nicely.

Raven123

(4,844 posts)
6. Maybe now we get a clue as to why the judge wouldn't sentence Flynn in Dec
Thu May 16, 2019, 06:37 PM
May 2019

According to news reports, the judge was quite angry.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
8. Didn't he also mention the word "treason"? - one of these judges did, I can't keep up
Thu May 16, 2019, 06:42 PM
May 2019

but this is pure DY-NO-MITE right here!!!

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
15. Got it - Judge Emmet Sullivan, last December:
Thu May 16, 2019, 07:19 PM
May 2019
....However, Judge Sullivan told Flynn: "This is a very serious offence.

"A high-ranking senior official of the government making false statements to the FBI while on the physical premises of the White House."

At one point, Judge Sullivan asked the prosecutor whether the special counsel's office had ever considered charging Flynn with treason.

The judge told Flynn: "Arguably, you sold your country out."

Judge Sullivan also said he "can't hide my disgust, my disdain" for the offence....

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46609628

, Judge Sullivan

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
48. The same Judge that issued today's ruling.
Thu May 16, 2019, 09:31 PM
May 2019

My question is why did the Mueller team decide to declassify this now? They're DOJ right? Surely Barr knew this was coming? That's the missing piece of the puzzle. Flynn is definitely the biggest fish in this whole witness pond and yet I feel like I've heard precious little from him.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
57. g, I have no answers to your questions, but I so wholeheartedly agree that Flynn is the biggest,
Thu May 16, 2019, 09:58 PM
May 2019

tastiest fish in this whole scummy pond!!!

When I saw today that some kind of Flynn documents had been unsealed, I said, meh, this guy, we never hear SHIT about him, nothing, zip, ever

But then a couple hours went by and I'm like OH HOLY HELL!!

and I haven't stopped smiling since!!

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
58. Well apparently I somehow missed
Thu May 16, 2019, 10:15 PM
May 2019

that this tasty tidbit came from the "less redacted" Mueller Report. The Dems won't read it on principle but five Republicans have including Senator Burr from NC. The same one who called Jr. to testify. Check this out:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rep. David Cicilline says a report that there are less redacted versions of memos about Michael Flynn's cooperation with Robert Mueller is "very explosive," adding that the memos are "relevant to the question of obstruction of justice." <a href="https://t.co/RC1xA5yChu">https://t.co/RC1xA5yChu</a> <a href="https://t.co/l7T5Rw9xUX">pic.twitter.com/l7T5Rw9xUX</a></p>— The Situation Room (@CNNSitRoom) <a href="


?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 16, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

(Sorry I can never get the code quite right to embed but you get the picture anyway.)

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
7. Great GREAT NEWS, t! Rump LOVED this guy!! Wait till this hits big, what a no good lousy
Thu May 16, 2019, 06:40 PM
May 2019

VERY BAD NIGHT this will be for LOSER45

Oh HELL yeah!!!

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
52. Wouldn't he have to run it by Barr first?
Thu May 16, 2019, 09:36 PM
May 2019

That's the part I don't get. If he arbitrarily released this then good on him.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
25. Oh noes, your main man FLIPPED on ya, LOSER. What have you got to say for yourself??!
Thu May 16, 2019, 08:28 PM
May 2019


YEAH YOU SURE ARE

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
55. Still my favorite...
Thu May 16, 2019, 09:44 PM
May 2019

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Too bad he didn't leave that on Flynn's voicemail.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
37. Wasn't it Trump's lawyer
Thu May 16, 2019, 08:58 PM
May 2019

And someone from Congress who were witness tampering with Flynn?
Subpoena the lawyer Democrats. There is no client privilege.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
63. Hahaha... Maybe we'll get a Gif of that.
Thu May 16, 2019, 10:42 PM
May 2019

Seriously though, I didn't even know Barr had made a less redacted version of the report available. I took last weekend off from this topic because I needed a break. But good on the Dems for not falling for that just the tip bullshit. Sorry, Barr brings out the vulgar in me.

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