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cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 04:37 PM Aug 2012

Is statutory rape considered rape for RW abortion purposes?

Forcible rape is, legally, a fairly low standard. It is equated with "common law" rape, and very little that one would call rape falls outside the definition of "forcible rape." Pretty much any sexual intercourse which is accomplished against a person’s will by means of force, violence, duress, menace, or fear of immediate injury, whether the rapist is known to the victim or a stranger. It's a broad category and not an extreme category, being short of "aggravated rape."

Statutory rape is not forcible rape, by its nature. In cases where someone commits forcible rape of a minor that is not statutory rape, though the age of the victim would be an aggravating circumstance in a standard common-law rape charge.

How does statutory rape figure into the whole "rape exception" racket? (I do not know.)

This gets into an odd question... I think that minors should have the greatest access to abortion. The stakes are as high or even arguably higher than with an adult woman. So of course a pregnant 13 year old must have access to choice. But it doesn't make much sense for that access to be determined by the age of the father. If the intercourse was consensual and the father is 13 it wouldn't be rape of any sort. If the father was 18, however, it would be statuary rape.

So though all females who can get pregnant should have access to abortion if they chose, counting statutory rape as rape for the purposes of delineating an exception to a proposed (and unconstitutional) abortion ban would be irrational. (The burden of bringing a consensually conceived fetus to term is the same, whatever the age of the male involved.)

Any insights on how proposed RW rape exceptions deal with that question? (Though we have been talking about this "except for rape, incest, life of the mother" thing for about 30 years, a ban with or without those exceptions would be unconstitutional so it's all a RW hypothetical.)

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etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
1. I cannot begin to imagine what the RW nut jobs ...
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 04:41 PM
Aug 2012

... consider legitimate ... forcible .... or anything else.

the welfare, safety and autonomy of women (females) is not a concern of theirs.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
2. The RW doesn't think statutory rape is legitimate rape...
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 04:50 PM
Aug 2012

Age is just a number. There are places in this country where women are virtually guaranteed that
if they become pregnant they will carry the pregnancy to term. Right off the bat, I know that Kansas has only one abortion clinic and Mississippi has one for now, but RWers are desperately trying to close that one. I am sure there are other places where clinics are not very accessible. So, if you are date raped and stunned by it for a couple of days, Or you live very far away from a pharmacy and can't get the morning after pill, you can be SOL. Abortions performed by private doctors are as I hear very expensive if you have no insurance the cost can be prohibitive, like to the point you can't cover rent, groceries, or day to day expenses for several months.

brewens

(13,623 posts)
3. Nope. They were quite proud of a pedophile freak named Vernon Howell a few years back.
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 05:04 PM
Aug 2012

You might remember him. He had a baby with a 13 year old girl. She may have even been 12 when she conceived. People that were convinced he was actually the Messiah called him David Koresh.

Not only did they not want to se a hair on his head harmed, they actually made him a hero. Of course in some parts of the country the see nothing wrong with that sort of thing, especially if they're related.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
4. i believe statutory rape is only recently getting included in FBI numbers. mra doesnt like this. nt
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 05:52 PM
Aug 2012
 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
6. These phuckers believe that unless the victim has contusions,
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 06:20 PM
Aug 2012

bruises, fractures, etc., the person wasn't REALLY, legitimately raped.

The use of threats of harm or death to their family members to coerce someone into having sex with you does not make you a rapist!

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