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Baltimike

(4,146 posts)
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 08:12 AM Apr 2019

It has now been a WEEK since we have confirmed that RUSSIA ATTACKED US

Cyber war is an act of war, and we are under attack as I type this.

When will the CONSERVATIVE PRESS ask the kGOPb what they are going to do about it? 

When will they ask MF45?

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It has now been a WEEK since we have confirmed that RUSSIA ATTACKED US (Original Post) Baltimike Apr 2019 OP
Did you see this from yesterday? Ponietz Apr 2019 #1
They wont, they run from bullies and scary people uponit7771 Apr 2019 #2
What is your suggestion? former9thward Apr 2019 #3
Seize their assets in this country. Convict them so they can't travel to any of our allies. wasupaloopa Apr 2019 #4
Respectivully, this attack was all about sanctions... CincyDem Apr 2019 #7
Sanctions almost never change behavior. former9thward Apr 2019 #10
"useless sanctions"? Baltimike Apr 2019 #8
They are still in Ukraine. former9thward Apr 2019 #11
This is the strongest argument for impeachment. #Traitor refuses to protect our democracy Arazi Apr 2019 #9
Let them open aluminum plants in Kentucky? ProudLib72 Apr 2019 #13
It's been confirmed over and over by our intel services C_U_L8R Apr 2019 #5
this was confirmed 2 years ago spanone Apr 2019 #6
K&R UTUSN Apr 2019 #12
 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
4. Seize their assets in this country. Convict them so they can't travel to any of our allies.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 08:32 AM
Apr 2019

We have to make life miserable for them

Most of all life in prison for any American helping them

CincyDem

(6,375 posts)
7. Respectivully, this attack was all about sanctions...
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 08:56 AM
Apr 2019


Russia has been trying to get out from under sanctions for several years and this is their solution. If you mean "useless" because Republicans and this administration won't enforce them with any teeth, I agree. If you mean it because they don't put pressure on the sanctioned country - disagree.

IIRC, the Pearl Harbor attack was precipitated sanctions on Japan (fuel, gasoline, copper, some grains...) that were in response to their aggressive moves into other counties (Vietnam - then Indochina I think, and China). There were negotiating to get sanctions removed and were willing to give up everything except withdrawal to get it except their China gains. When they reached that impasse, they concluded war was inevitable so they went on the offense.

Obviously, there was a lot of things that led to Pearl Harbor but I do think there are some similarities to where we are today with Russia, including their aggressive moves into other countries.

For years, I've said that WWIII won't be fought with bullets and bombs but rather with 1's and 0's so I look at this as our Cyber PH.

We keep talking about what would happen if Trump was tested with a crisis - we don't have to wonder, we're seeing it.

former9thward

(32,046 posts)
10. Sanctions almost never change behavior.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 03:42 PM
Apr 2019

Only war. I doubt the U.S. is willing to go to war to change Russian behavior. The Nazis killed 30 million Russians and Russia never surrendered (unlike western Europe ). I don't think sanctions, enforced or not enforced, will make them change.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
9. This is the strongest argument for impeachment. #Traitor refuses to protect our democracy
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:14 AM
Apr 2019

From attack by a hostile foreign power

He's clearly allowing the attacks to continue. Impeach on this and I don't see how even Rs can refute it.

The Mueller report is damning enough but the Senate Rs have been given enough cover by Barr to shirk their responsibility - impeaching on that will fail imo. Let that stand on it's own record while holding hearings on it to continue to tarnish the #TraitorInChief.

The real action is #Traitor's refusal to protect our democracy. That's well documented. Haspel, Coates, Wray, hell even Neilsen know he's actively blocked efforts to stop Russia. Bring them in under oath specifically on this question only. It's enough

C_U_L8R

(45,013 posts)
5. It's been confirmed over and over by our intel services
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 08:47 AM
Apr 2019

The Trumps and their Republican enablers have been trying to shield Russian interference since it began. We’ve always known.

https://www.lawfareblog.com/intel-chiefs-testify-global-threats-cybersecurity-and-elections

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