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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMSNBC: Rep Gerry Connolly sez Ignore Congressional Subpoena, Get fined $25k PER DAY
So, the law does have teeth.
at140
(6,110 posts)Who is in charge of enforcing laws? Congress? Judiciary? Executive?
elleng
(130,956 posts)fined $25k PER DAY?
Sounds real, to me!
bdamomma
(63,868 posts)bastards in the pocketbook.
C_U_L8R
(45,003 posts)manor321
(3,344 posts)watoos
(7,142 posts)Its not 25k/day, I think its a flat 100k fine plus jail time. Not going to happen.
manor321
(3,344 posts)So this is less punishment than that. It could easily happen.
Zoonart
(11,869 posts)Sep 10, 1996 - Susan McDougal was sent to jail in Arkansas for refusing to testify against the Clintons.
manor321
(3,344 posts)I don't believe this has ever been done but he's saying that it could be.
I'm not sure, because it was the end of the segment, but I think the Congressman was also ready to talk about inherent contempt, meaning the House directly imprisoning someone. The reason I think he was going to mention that is because he explicitly referred to things that haven't been done in a long time. And that hasn't been done since 1935.
elleng
(130,956 posts)from Virginia's 11th congressional district, first elected in 2008. The district is anchored in Fairfax County, an affluent suburban county south of Washington, D. C.
kimbutgar
(21,155 posts)His stupid cult members are paying for his defense even though we know he is a treasonous Russian asset.
The empressof all
(29,098 posts)"Under this process, the procedure for holding a person in contempt involves only the chamber concerned. Following a contempt citation, the person cited for contempt is arrested by the Sergeant-at-Arms for the House or Senate, brought to the floor of the chamber, held to answer charges by the presiding officer, and then subject to punishment that the House may dictate (usually imprisonment for punishment reasons, imprisonment for coercive effect, or release from the contempt citation)."...
"In the case of contempt, Congress began early in its history to protect its ability to compel testimony to it by private citizens and executive officials by arresting and jailing in the Capitol those who refused to cooperate. The first case dates to 1795. The Supreme Court in 1821, in Anderson v. Dunn, recognized Congress inherent power but noted that the power was limited to the least power adequate to the end proposed, and the court limited imprisonment, saying it could not last beyond the adjournment of Congress. Congress passed a statute in 1857 to allow longer terms of imprisonment as well as allowing it to turn contempt cases over to the courts for indictment and trial, with penalties including fines of not more than $1,000 nor less than $100 and imprisonment in a common jail of not less than one month nor more than twelve months.
From an old article during Bush days.... http://www.pensitoreview.com/2007/07/26/jail-cells-in-us-capitol-building-available-for-rove-miers/
I'm not a lawyer but it seems they can hold them until the issue is addressed by the courts.
stillcool
(32,626 posts)Bill ClarkCQ-Roll Call/Getty Images
BY TESSA BERENSON AND LILY ROTHMAN NOVEMBER 15, 2017
The full House or Senate can approve a contempt citation by a majority vote, and then must hand the matter to the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, whose duty it shall be to bring the matter before the grand jury for its action, according to the law.
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But, frequently, when the topic of contempt-of-Congress charges comes up, a far harsher possibility makes headlines: the Capitol jail.
There is some real history backing up that threat in that 1821 case, the Supreme Court stood behind Congress right to imprison people. But these days, its just as likely that the source for the idea is a bit of confusion.
The Old Capitol Jail was once a major Washington, D.C., landmark. Most famously, it was used to detain Confederate spies and soldiers during the Civil War era. As one James Joseph Williamson would later recount of his time imprisoned there, Conditions in the Old Capitol differed in many respects from the prison camps. Prisoners in the Old Capitol were mostly civilians, except where soldiers (either prisoners of war or men charged with offenses), were brought in and kept until they could be sent to places designated; or prisoners from other prisons held over until they could be shipped South for exchange.
But that building doesnt exist anymore, though its address is still important as the location of the Supreme Court building
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