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watoos

(7,142 posts)
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:52 PM Apr 2019

Trump may block Mueller from testifying

It’s possible that Trump May even block Mueller from testifying before Congress.
From what I’ve heard on All Inn, Democrats have no solution to the Trump/Barr obstruction.

Waiting for more recruits for impeachment

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Trump may block Mueller from testifying (Original Post) watoos Apr 2019 OP
Looking like impeachment is the only way to go. world wide wally Apr 2019 #1
Yes he will, then dems need to make all the noise they can uponit7771 Apr 2019 #2
He can try n/t malaise Apr 2019 #3
Impeachment will not change anything. The only way to fix this problem is to vote. wasupaloopa Apr 2019 #4
impeach handmade34 Apr 2019 #6
Impeachment may make the job of voting to beat wasupaloopa Apr 2019 #24
It'll change people's views that Democrats are as bad as Republicans Sugarcoated Apr 2019 #7
The % of people who believe the "both sides" nonsense is small. TwilightZone Apr 2019 #11
I don't know that that's necessarily true Sugarcoated Apr 2019 #13
How will impeachment hold the pig accountable if the Senate will not convict? wasupaloopa Apr 2019 #27
You are wrong about that. Haggis for Breakfast Apr 2019 #22
Yes there is, he can say 'fuck you, NO', just like he's doing now and order his dept. heads mr_lebowski Apr 2019 #37
And if tRump wins in 2020 and the Rs regain the House, what then? stopbush Apr 2019 #35
Hmm, there is another way watoos Apr 2019 #5
The power of the purse! davekriss Apr 2019 #14
Impeachment is not going to magically make Trump cooperate. TwilightZone Apr 2019 #8
I agree ... this is a completely lawless administration, with enough of a fascist base behind him mr_lebowski Apr 2019 #38
he's angling to be the first dictator of America. spanone Apr 2019 #9
Mueller could resign effective immediately. kentuck Apr 2019 #10
Just try it Trump C_U_L8R Apr 2019 #12
Trump needs to be impeached soon standingtall Apr 2019 #15
There's nothing stopping him from doing the same thing re: impeachment hearings. TwilightZone Apr 2019 #16
Impeaching him makes our case with the American people standingtall Apr 2019 #18
How will impeachment change any of this if he remains in office? StarfishSaver Apr 2019 #20
We could not impeach him and he still could get reelected standingtall Apr 2019 #23
What about impeachment will "get more people to pay attention"? StarfishSaver Apr 2019 #25
Impeachment hearings will on primetime Television standingtall Apr 2019 #31
Hearings aren't usually held in primetime StarfishSaver Apr 2019 #33
Impeachments are viewed as a direct threat to a Presidency standingtall Apr 2019 #34
If he is in the midst of impeachment proceeding, perhaps COLGATE4 Apr 2019 #36
Not only Mueller bdamomma Apr 2019 #17
That's fine, MUELLER has testified with his report. UTUSN Apr 2019 #19
He can't. Mueller will be a private citizen and will decide on his own whether to attend manor321 Apr 2019 #21
He can try, but he can't prevent it. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #26
He can't handle the truth Botany Apr 2019 #28
He's DARING the Dems to impeach him. bitterross Apr 2019 #29
Joy Reid was in "woe is me" mode DeminPennswoods Apr 2019 #30
Of course he will. ooky Apr 2019 #32
 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
4. Impeachment will not change anything. The only way to fix this problem is to vote.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 08:57 PM
Apr 2019

Trump can block all evidence for impeachment. Congress will not convict him.

Impeachment will get him re-elected.

Sugarcoated

(7,724 posts)
7. It'll change people's views that Democrats are as bad as Republicans
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 09:05 PM
Apr 2019

That both parties are basically the same. It will change the perception that Dems are spineless wimps, that they put politics over doing the right thing. They won't win back blue collar/middle class Americans if they don't hold the rich elite pig accountable when any one of them would be sent right to jail for the same.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
11. The % of people who believe the "both sides" nonsense is small.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 09:13 PM
Apr 2019

It's mostly third party yahoos like Jill Stein and large-L Libertarians.

Sugarcoated

(7,724 posts)
13. I don't know that that's necessarily true
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 09:25 PM
Apr 2019

but that assumption aside, it's not just those types that believe the coke/pepsi comparison, many Democrats and Liberals feel disgusted and betrayed. In fact, that's what prepared the fertile ground for crooked Don to poach blue collar voters in PA

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
22. You are wrong about that.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 10:08 PM
Apr 2019

Impeachment will lead to discovery. EVERYTHING will be on the table. There is nothing he can do to prevent the discovery phase. And when it all comes out, the repukes will have mutiny on their hands if they fail to act.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
37. Yes there is, he can say 'fuck you, NO', just like he's doing now and order his dept. heads
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 12:45 AM
Apr 2019

to refuse to turn anything over or testify. What's anyone going to do, if the Justice Dept. is too corrupt to act?

Even if he loses court cases, without Federal law enforcement showing up and enforcing those decisions, what could be done?

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
8. Impeachment is not going to magically make Trump cooperate.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 09:08 PM
Apr 2019

If you believe it will, you haven't been paying attention.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
38. I agree ... this is a completely lawless administration, with enough of a fascist base behind him
Wed Apr 24, 2019, 12:52 AM
Apr 2019

that he'd have a decent chance to win in 2020 even if he dismembered live babies and consumed their brains with his bare hands on live television, as long as he continues to hate who they hate.

They will refuse to cooperate for impeachment proceedings any more than they do right now. Probably even less.

spanone

(135,841 posts)
9. he's angling to be the first dictator of America.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 09:11 PM
Apr 2019

I want the impeachment stain and stench on whatever legacy of shit he leaves behind.

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
15. Trump needs to be impeached soon
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 09:31 PM
Apr 2019

He is going to do everything he can to obstruct congressional over site evident by his attempt to block anyone associate with him from testifying in front of congress. My guess is his next step will be to offer them pardons for defying subpoenas if he hasn't already. If we don't show a backbone and impeach him for what he has done it will not be a good look for us in 2020 and Trump must be defeated for the good of this country.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
16. There's nothing stopping him from doing the same thing re: impeachment hearings.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 09:36 PM
Apr 2019

And he undoubtedly will.

Impeachment isn't a magic wand that will force him to cooperate. Dems will be dealing with similar obstruction in any of the multiple, ongoing investigations whether they're under the guise of impeachment or not.

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
18. Impeaching him makes our case with the American people
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 09:43 PM
Apr 2019

a lot stronger and will get the Supreme Court involved a lot quicker which is what we need to do. Yes I know there are 5 republicans on the supreme court, but I do not believe Roberts is willing to cede that kind of power to Trump. We force Trump to refuse to comply with a supreme court order and make senate republicans defend themselves for not voting to impeach Trump after that they answer to voters for it in 2020.

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
23. We could not impeach him and he still could get reelected
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 10:09 PM
Apr 2019

He will do ever thing he can to get reelected including out right stealing the election. Impeaching him will get more people paying attention and to be on the look out for his efforts to steal the election in 2020.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
33. Hearings aren't usually held in primetime
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 10:30 PM
Apr 2019

They're conducted in the middle of the day.

But there's nothing magical about impeachment hearings that make them more likely to be broadcast on the networks than other hearings.

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
34. Impeachments are viewed as a direct threat to a Presidency
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 10:37 PM
Apr 2019

and for that reason all networks will broadcast them in prime time as long as the house of representatives decides to have hearings at night.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
36. If he is in the midst of impeachment proceeding, perhaps
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 11:52 PM
Apr 2019

he can't dangle possible pardons. The pardons clause of the Constitution provides that "The President...shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment."

bdamomma

(63,868 posts)
17. Not only Mueller
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 09:41 PM
Apr 2019

now he doesn't even want McGahn to testify either, Trump is exercising his dictatorial powers. WTF.

I hope he has a meltdown he deserves it.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
29. He's DARING the Dems to impeach him.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 10:13 PM
Apr 2019

It's quite obvious. He thinks they won't do it. Perhaps he is correct.

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